Marauder Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 On 23/11/2020 at 16:43, Tommygilf said: . a central production company that then sells content to broadcasters. That is a major step I could see Elstone using PE money to fund. Seems like a good way forward. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 12 hours ago, AB Knight said: Depends how far you’re willing to walk. 2 hours free parking in Morrisons round the corner. Plenty free parking on Huntington road. Plus not far from all the major banks if you are a RL club owner from Lancashire who wanted to acquire a giant cheque to give to charity, for example I can just see Morrisons putting up with their car park full for 2 hours of none shoppers. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 18 hours ago, Gav Wilson said: And we pointed out that you're parking in the wrong places. There's a very cheap park & ride literally next to the stadium. I suppose it's better to have cheap parking at the ground. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 14 hours ago, Gav Wilson said: Thats handy, there's a regular direct bus from the train station to the stadium park & Ride. What about the parking at the beginning of the journey Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 9 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said: So getting a train and then a bus to the stadium is acceptable for a game in York, but not Leigh? Don't forget you have to do the same at the start of the journey Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Weii just to be clear, I don't think a discussion of the relative merits of parking or coincidental merits of tourist attractions should be or will be among the main criteria for the Super league side chosen. 2 warning points Non-Political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayCee Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Oxford said: Weii just to be clear, I don't think a discussion of the relative merits of parking or coincidental merits of tourist attractions should be or will be among the main criteria for the Super league side chosen. What about the number of travelling fans? My blog: https://rugbyl.blogspot.co.nz/ It takes wisdom to know when a discussion has run its course. It takes reasonableness to end that discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, RayCee said: What about the number of travelling fans? That one's written in stone Ray! And Lo, Elstone came down from the mountain carrying tablets and it was carved therein "and verily they shall be be a shoe in that bring forth crowds like locusts providing succour and multiple anuses on seating for the beleaguered held captive in Super League club administration." 2 warning points Non-Political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavin7094 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 22 minutes ago, Oxford said: Weii just to be clear, I don't think a discussion of the relative merits of parking or coincidental merits of tourist attractions should be or will be among the main criteria for the Super league side chosen. Thay aren't. But surely we can still discuss these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, gavin7094 said: Thay aren't. But surely we can still discuss these? Er .... okay, go on then, if you must! 2 warning points Non-Political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 It always seems expensive on the train, Leeds to york is £12.50 or £50-£62.50 for a car full as opposed to £6/7 fuel plus parking but thats where Donnie and Leigh have a huge advantage with free on site parking for 1000's of cars. Extra is the to/from station also - handy if you are all on the sesh and don't want the coach though But for those train lovers Leigh North (Atherton) to LSV is virtually the same distance as York to Ground (4m), but doesn't have the traffic issues, 4m straight down bi-pass £8 taxi or Bus every 10 mins to Leigh. Leigh South (Newton le willows) is slightly longer and buses every 30 mins. Surprised these train lovers don't use either of Leighs stations for LSV visits. Plane lovers the Leeds/Bradford to Westleyth Intl doesn't run on Sundays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 and for what its worth the value brought to SL is a factor so if club A can show how many it took to away games via turnstyle clicks and/or tickets sold it can be quantified. Leigh and London should be able to quickly access this for SL actuals, the rest for advance ticket sales in the championship so 1500 away following shows a £400k pa benefit to SL clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Oxford said: So just a chance to annoy Leythers really then, I know they're tories but that just makes them even easier targets. Hey Oxy, I resemble that remark. PS so glad you have took the Jezza avatar down, it was making my toast curl up in the mornings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 59 minutes ago, Marauder said: I can just see Morrisons putting up with their car park full for 2 hours of none shoppers. Like Warrington with Tesco's, fines galore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said: and for what its worth the value brought to SL is a factor so if club A can show how many it took to away games via turnstyle clicks and/or tickets sold it can be quantified. Leigh and London should be able to quickly access this for SL actuals, the rest for advance ticket sales in the championship so 1500 away following shows a £400k pa benefit to SL clubs. You'd want the plus or minus versus the average and then spread it per team. We've done this. The kindest possible interpretation is that Leigh's average away fan support is worth c.£15,000 per team per year. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, RayCee said: What about the number of travelling fans? That's not to spoke be about it's irrelevant, but you wouldn't think so with all the help the York faithfull are doing in this thread, to accommodate as many as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 55 minutes ago, Oxford said: That one's written in stone Ray! And Lo, Elstone came down from the mountain carrying tablets and it was carved therein "and verily they shall be be a shoe in that bring forth crowds like locusts providing succour and multiple anuses on seating for the beleaguered held captive in Super League club administration." Administration, bloody hell and a ball hasn't even been kicked yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said: and for what its worth the value brought to SL is a factor so if club A can show how many it took to away games via turnstyle clicks and/or tickets sold it can be quantified. Leigh and London should be able to quickly access this for SL actuals, the rest for advance ticket sales in the championship so 1500 away following shows a £400k pa benefit to SL clubs. Not allowed to talk about that, how many times do you have to be told! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, gingerjon said: You'd want the plus or minus versus the average and then spread it per team. We've done this. The kindest possible interpretation is that Leigh's average away fan support is worth c.£15,000 per team per year. Who's we that's done it Ginger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: Who's we that's done it Ginger? Me. The royal 'we'. On one of the many threads where Leigh's epoch defining 1,000 away fans (more when they travel away to another bit of Wigan) get raised as the most important criterion for any promotion assessment. One visit from the golden horde equals, let's be kind, 750 more away fans than might come from another team. 750 fans pay £20 a ticket. Lose a bit for tax, get a bit back because they have a pie. Call it £15,000 extra in your till. Once a season. At best. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 I see York are the new Toronto in the eyes of our Leigh followers,looking forward to this thread reaching 500 pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, gingerjon said: Me. The royal 'we'. On one of the many threads where Leigh's epoch defining 1,000 away fans (more when they travel away to another bit of Wigan) get raised as the most important criterion for any promotion assessment. One visit from the golden horde equals, let's be kind, 750 more away fans than might come from another team. 750 fans pay £20 a ticket. Lose a bit for tax, get a bit back because they have a pie. Call it £15,000 extra in your till. Once a season. At best. I will use a very conservative £30 average spend admission and refreshments - Leythers are known to like a scoop or two of the amber singing syrup - that will bring your estimate of £15,000 down to 500 travelling away, way of the mark with that one Ginger. Are you not getting your number mixed up with London's home supporters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Davo5 said: I see York are the new Toronto in the eyes of our Leigh followers,looking forward to this thread reaching 500 pages. Meow, Morning Dav, Told you all I I don't want Leigh to get the spot, I want Tolouse to get it, York will be a much easier proposition in the Championship next year for us, thinking ahead Dav is the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: I will use a very conservative £30 average spend admission and refreshments - Leythers are known to like a scoop or two of the amber singing syrup - that will bring your estimate of £15,000 down to 500 travelling away, way of the mark with that one Ginger. Are you not getting your number mixed up with London's home supporters? Not getting it mixed up with anything. Not everyone will have a drink. Not everyone will have a drink *inside the ground*. Evening it out. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, Davo5 said: I see York are the new Toronto in the eyes of our Leigh followers,looking forward to this thread reaching 500 pages. In my years of posting on here, I'd like to think of myself as quite a fair-minded speccy when it comes to these things, but as comparisons are being made about a process within which Leigh are directly involved then it is only fair and right that Leigh fans respond to these, and I'd expect no different of any other set of fans. Of course these arguments may naturally be weighted with a Leigh bias, but I suppose that's the whole point of the process really. Were the topic of conversation to be the bids of Bradford, Featherstone or A N Other, then I'm sure the same comparisons would be made rather than this being particularly 'against' York. Personally, I feel that the most damaging option to the Super League brand would be admitting a side that ends up getting tonked every week, which in turn could potentially have a devastating effect on the club in question, and this is where I feel York may need to be careful what they wish for. There's very much a feeling of 2008/2011 when it comes to these processes creating slanging matches between fans that merely become a question of who can shout loudest and longest, only now we can also chuck in the additional polarisation nature of society post-indyref/Brexit/Covid. All of the bids - and the clubs presenting them - have their strengths and weaknesses, but without knowing which single aspect SL are looking to achieve, be it on-field, expansion or purely commercial, we're all just pontificating really. Once again, the aim has been to please everybody and instead will satisfy nobody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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