The Blues Ox Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 3 hours ago, sweaty craiq said: Being FT is critical Give any championship team 1.5m and they would be full time. Theres SL teams hanging on by the skin of their teeth, its why the game can never move forward because there is far too much self interest at the top table. Not that I blame them mind, I keep picking Wakey as they are the obvious target, but I think they could struggle to survive if they ended up in the Championship. Disclaimer in that I like Wakey as a club as they are very similar to my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 You've really got to stop living in Divided World, full of us and them and we're more important, truthful & reasonable. There's no such place and you're not. We're all in this together or we needn't bother at all. Simplistic answers and meaningless phrases are not the same as reality or solutions. Apart from this invite to SL at the moment, you get into SL by earning it and for no other reason and it's lost for much the same reasons. Until that changes moaning about how some Championship sides deserve it more, is just painful nonsense. 2 warning points Non-Political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, The Blues Ox said: Give any championship team 1.5m and they would be full time. Theres SL teams hanging on by the skin of their teeth, its why the game can never move forward because there is far too much self interest at the top table. Not that I blame them mind, I keep picking Wakey as they are the obvious target, but I think they could struggle to survive if they ended up in the Championship. Disclaimer in that I like Wakey as a club as they are very similar to my own. There are 3 stages imo being a great PT club, expanding to a FT squad plus limited back office and becoming a SL club FT. Its nigh impossible to jump from 1 to 3 and have a chance of survival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fev1983 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 On 21/11/2020 at 11:42, sweaty craiq said: Can anyone access these over the weekend, should make an interesting comparison I am sure Fev are the only club to make a profit this year out of the 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 7 hours ago, Fev1983 said: I am sure Fev are the only club to make a profit this year out of the 6 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Slater Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 On 28/11/2020 at 16:57, Fev1983 said: I am sure Fev are the only club to make a profit this year out of the 6 I'm pretty sure that Fev are the only one with any assets, and will also become much richer if their land is moved out of green belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 On 18/12/2020 at 18:03, Steve Slater said: I'm pretty sure that Fev are the only one with any assets, and will also become much richer if their land is moved out of green belt. Are any 'loans' secured against that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 minute ago, sweaty craiq said: Are any 'loans' secured against that? Yes, but Steve actually means net assets ie they own more than they owe (£667k as at 30/11/19), unlike at least 4 of the other clubs such as Leigh, which had net debt of £244k as of 31/12/19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 43 minutes ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said: Yes, but Steve actually means net assets ie they own more than they owe (£667k as at 30/11/19), unlike at least 4 of the other clubs such as Leigh, which had net debt of £244k as of 31/12/19. What is the land valued at on the books? Leighs is pretty straightforward debt to Beaumont which has reduced dramatically in recent years, I believe our cash in hand at the Tender was over 500k without season tickets or sponsorship for 2021 we had a very bad experience of losing our assets to loans from owners at HP, both the training pitch to B&Q and HP itself to the Blackpool mafia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Slater Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 23 hours ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said: Yes, but Steve actually means net assets ie they own more than they owe (£667k as at 30/11/19), unlike at least 4 of the other clubs such as Leigh, which had net debt of £244k as of 31/12/19. LTS, Do you happen to know when the decision on the land is to be made by WMDC? The council always seem to be bending over backwards to help Wakey and Cas while Fev always seem to get a raw deal. I hope that is due to change soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Steve Slater said: LTS, Do you happen to know when the decision on the land is to be made by WMDC? The council always seem to be bending over backwards to help Wakey and Cas while Fev always seem to get a raw deal. I hope that is due to change soon? The local plan is still in the consultation stage (extended to 31st Dec due to CV-19). After that it will be sent to the Secretary of State for examination and approval with adoption expected to be sometime in 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Slater Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 22 hours ago, sweaty craiq said: What is the land valued at on the books? Leighs is pretty straightforward debt to Beaumont which has reduced dramatically in recent years, I believe our cash in hand at the Tender was over 500k without season tickets or sponsorship for 2021 we had a very bad experience of losing our assets to loans from owners at HP, both the training pitch to B&Q and HP itself to the Blackpool mafia Craig, It's not worth very much at present because it's still in green belt. If you read the previous post from LTS you will see that the decision has been put back, but if it gets taken out of green belt it's got to be worth at least a few million even at the cheapest of building land prices. I believe that Fev's plans would not be to sell the land, but build on it themselves along with investors so they can rent out the properties to bring in a substantial year on year income? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 On 21/11/2020 at 12:43, JohnM said: Is pornhub still going? I refuse to answer that question on the grounds I might incriminate myself..................fifth amendment !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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