Gooleboy Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 21 minutes ago, M j M said: It's not really worth the effort explaining, some people are just too dimwitted to understand that sport is about a lot more than just shuffling chess pieces around and assuming people will support a team, regardless of what it's called, regardless of where it plays. Cas and Wakey are completely separate places with completely separate identities. It's not hard to understand why sharing a stadium wouldn't work out. Remember back that the beginning of the end for Bramley was moving into Headingley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 24 minutes ago, Wholly Trinity said: When have Wakefield fans attacked the council for not providing a stadium? Which clubs have built a new stadium without active/proactive support from their LA? (not necessarily financial) Sharing is more about location and ownership than the principle itself. Wakefield would not share a stadium in Cas owned by Cas. Cas would not share a stadium outside cas even if it was pretty much central between the two and owned by a district community trust. The two clubs couldn't share. Leigh's is the only ground I can think of that received council support despite being the "second facility" however. If Wakefield MDC had invested in Belle Vue 20/25 years ago, they could be investing in Wheldon road now or for the past 5/10 years or vice versa. That they haven't done either has left both clubs with embarrassing sub par facilities that eventually will be crippling the clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooleboy Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Tommygilf said: The two clubs couldn't share. Leigh's is the only ground I can think of that received council support despite being the "second facility" however. If Wakefield MDC had invested in Belle Vue 20/25 years ago, they could be investing in Wheldon road now or for the past 5/10 years or vice versa. That they haven't done either has left both clubs with embarrassing sub par facilities that eventually will be crippling the clubs. Whilst their near neighbour's showed them how to do it without Council help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Gooleboy said: Whilst their near neighbour's showed them how to do it without Council help. Granted it took Scarborough FC collapsing to do so - which is not usual in any respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooleboy Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: Granted it took Scarborough FC collapsing to do so - which is not usual in any respect. Since 1985 Featherstone also built the other two Stands and a Clubhouse with Hospitality facilities and Dressing Rooms. So plenty had been done since they acquired the other two Stands from Scarborough FC. The blue and white seats in the two Scarborough Stands used to be in the East Stand at Elland Road, they became available when LUFC built the East Stand hospitality boxes. They couldn't use the seats from Scarborough as they were red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: The two clubs couldn't share. Leigh's is the only ground I can think of that received council support despite being the "second facility" however. If Wakefield MDC had invested in Belle Vue 20/25 years ago, they could be investing in Wheldon road now or for the past 5/10 years or vice versa. That they haven't done either has left both clubs with embarrassing sub par facilities that eventually will be crippling the clubs. Once again , no actual money from Wigan council , originally the land was earmarked for the Ski facility that went to Glasshoughton , but eventually decided the location wasn't right ( correct decision ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: Once again , no actual money from Wigan council , originally the land was earmarked for the Ski facility that went to Glasshoughton , but eventually decided the location wasn't right ( correct decision ) No, but council support - which up until recently has not been forthcoming from WMDC. Glasshoughton would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Gooleboy said: Since 1985 Featherstone also built the other two Stands and a Clubhouse with Hospitality facilities and Dressing Rooms. So plenty had been done since they acquired the other two Stands from Scarborough FC. The blue and white seats in the two Scarborough Stands used to be in the East Stand at Elland Road, they became available when LUFC built the East Stand hospitality boxes. They couldn't use the seats from Scarborough as they were red. Its all relative isn't it, and Fev's ground is nice and tidy like Batley's for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wholly Trinity Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, Gooleboy said: Since 1985 Featherstone also built the other two Stands and a Clubhouse with Hospitality facilities and Dressing Rooms. So plenty had been done since they acquired the other two Stands from Scarborough FC. The blue and white seats in the two Scarborough Stands used to be in the East Stand at Elland Road, they became available when LUFC built the East Stand hospitality boxes. They couldn't use the seats from Scarborough as they were red. Again, they have done well, but that comes from a clear focus over all that time: "How can we improve our stadium with buggerall money?" Cas & Wakey were asking different questions. Also, up to 1995, Fev were a relatively successful club. They were unlucky to be cut out. Wakefield had actually surrendered at that point and agreed to the Calder merger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voteronniegibbs Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 10 hours ago, Wollo Wollo Wayoo said: Minor point. Cas have been relegated twice Wakefield haven't. Point of order m'lud Cas were evicted from 2nd bottom to allow Catalans , who had finished bottom and in the relegation position, to stay in SL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 6 hours ago, voteronniegibbs said: Point of order m'lud Cas were evicted from 2nd bottom to allow Catalans , who had finished bottom and in the relegation position, to stay in SL. Yes , they were relegated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 8 hours ago, Wholly Trinity said: Again, they have done well, but that comes from a clear focus over all that time: "How can we improve our stadium with buggerall money?" Cas & Wakey were asking different questions. Also, up to 1995, Fev were a relatively successful club. They were unlucky to be cut out. Wakefield had actually surrendered at that point and agreed to the Calder merger. Yep, "how can we get a new stadium, with buggerall money by doing buggerall." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentoffagain2 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 As a previous poster said Batley is a cracking ground that has been improved over the years.Dewsbury is also developing into a good ground despite the cramped playing area.Once the bottom end terracing is done it will be a credit to the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M j M Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said: Yep, "how can we get a new stadium, with buggerall money by doing buggerall." Like pretty much every other Super League club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 12 hours ago, voteronniegibbs said: Point of order m'lud Cas were evicted from 2nd bottom to allow Catalans , who had finished bottom and in the relegation position, to stay in SL. They were the lowest placed English team in the league, and were thus relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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