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1 minute ago, Bulls2487 said:

You mean like Belle Vue and Wheldon Road? If your looking for someone to blame its the RFL/SL for not imposing stricter rules in relation to Stadiums. If it was my choice Belle Vue, Wheldon Road, Odsal wouldn't be declared fit for purpose but can you really blame a club when they are following the rules?

Whataboutism, yes they’re s h I t tips too, but we’re not talking about them, we’re talking about an insolvent club, playing out of a substandard white elephant of a ground 

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59 minutes ago, Tex Evans Thigh said:

Their goal is to win games. You can have all the intentions in the world but if the plan doesn’t work they’ll scrap it. LE can say what it wants, until they are regularly fielding more French kids it’s paper talk and frankly, if they played French kids for the sake of it just to posture then they’re idiots. 
P&R isn’t to blame for this either, teams play to win, if players aren’t good enough they won’t play as has been proven in every sport forever.

It wasn't LE coming up with  a story, it was an interview with the coach and chairman.

Don't let facts get in the way of your prejudice, whatever you do.

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7 minutes ago, Phil said:

Whataboutism, yes they’re s h I t tips too, but we’re not talking about them, we’re talking about an insolvent club, playing out of a substandard white elephant of a ground 

I might be well wide of the mark here but I get the inkling that you don't like Bradford.

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5 minutes ago, Blind side johnny said:

I might be well wide of the mark here but I get the inkling that you don't like Bradford.

I want the club that’s chosen, to meet the criteria, a large part of which is to be solvent which Bradford are transparently not.

Because the RL own Odsal my fear is that they’ll shoe them in just to get some income from the ground.

I can’t see it ending well, whether I like that or not is not for this discussion, I’m on record as supporting the Toulouse application 

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1 hour ago, Bulls2487 said:

Wakefield have already released another artists impression while the sale of the stadium is under investigation by West Yorkshire Police.

Wakefield are not under investigation. The National Crime Agency have investigated Trinity, and declared “no further actions. The NAC recovered £10 million from the former landlord of Belle Vue, by an unexplained wealth order. The police have recently received a complaint that the former landlord Manni Hussain, received £600,000 from the sale to Trinity. This is under investigation, I’m pretty sure that no one, connected to Trinity, had a spare £600,000 laying around. My guess would be dodgy land developers, local politicians, a knight of the realm, there’s a number of people, unconnected to the Trinity club who have potentially made a fortune out of the land development involving the new community stadium.

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7 hours ago, Tex Evans Thigh said:

I would suggest Fev and Leigh have produced more top level players than Toulouse ever have. Do you think Toulouse are going to find née players out of thin air? I would bet all 6 clubs have the same players lined up if they are given the nod.

You haven’t given one logical reason it should be Toulouse over the others yet. I’m still waiting for this explanation on the new audience York and Toulouse are going to bring. The best case Toulouse have is that they have been a successful championship club who finished 2nd last year in the league. They rank about the same as the others on other criteria and the fact that they’re in France is a huge negative at this moment in time. This was hardly helped by SLs ‘independent study’ that concluded that having a French team in SL provided no commercial benefits.

My reason is simply if superleague wants credibility then expanding to Toulouse gives this if not and it expands to a heartland club then its  a insular game for northern englanders only not interested in expanding the sport being held down by a small clubs who have zero ambition and only looking at survival. 

 

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Having watched the football on tv today I am just looking forward to the rugby starting again.

Any of the teams would be more exciting to watch. 

I think rugby league is the only team game that is watchable without fans as a neutral. This is because the intensity is always there. 

 

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1 hour ago, Blind side johnny said:

It wasn't LE coming up with  a story, it was an interview with the coach and chairman.

Don't let facts get in the way of your prejudice, whatever you do.

What are you talking about? Where is the prejudice?

If you want some facts, I'll give them to you. Catalans have reduced the number of French players in their squad recently, fact. After 15 years there are very few top level French players, fact. Catalans sole aim is to win rugby league games, not develop French players just for the sake of developing French players, fact. All they have done so far is say they're going to promote more French kids, they've not actually done anything yet, fact. If they are faced with a choice of playing a good English/Australian or a poor French kid they will pick the former and I don't blame them.

If they produce good French players then great, if the French national team gets better, great, but they have no obligation to do this and I don't care either, they shouldn't have to just like every other club has no obligation to produce young players, particularly if there are none in their area. 

Maybe look up the definition of 'prejudice' before using it.

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5 minutes ago, winnyason said:

My reason is simply if superleague wants credibility then expanding to Toulouse gives this if not and it expands to a heartland club then its  a insular game for northern englanders only not interested in expanding the sport being held down by a small clubs who have zero ambition and only looking at survival. 

 

Credibility is an interesting word to use when we are watching a dog and pony show to determine who takes the place of the team the other teams kicked out because they didnt want them after making a man who sells hair gel do repeated powerpoint presentations from his car. 

Any other sport in the world would have promoted the team who finished runners-up as soon as it happened.

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5 minutes ago, Tex Evans Thigh said:

Credibility is an interesting word to use when we are watching a dog and pony show to determine who takes the place of the team the other teams kicked out because they didnt want them after making a man who sells hair gel do repeated powerpoint presentations from his car. 

Any other sport in the world would have promoted the team who finished runners-up as soon as it happened.

Look let's be clear here there a reason the nrl looking to get involved in this league and it's not because it's well run. Blind freddy can see its run pathetically and not going in the right direction. Supporters like yourself may have to look at that reality at some stage. 

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15 minutes ago, Niels said:

Having watched the football on tv today I am just looking forward to the rugby starting again.

Any of the teams would be more exciting to watch. 

I think rugby league is the only team game that is watchable without fans as a neutral. This is because the intensity is always there. 

 

The Manchester derby was sheeeeiiiiiite

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11 minutes ago, winnyason said:

Look let's be clear here there a reason the nrl looking to get involved in this league and it's not because it's well run. Blind freddy can see its run pathetically and not going in the right direction. Supporters like yourself may have to look at that reality at some stage. 

No you are the one that needs to take a look at yourself Rugby League is supposed to be a competitive sport, not a popularity contest or a business deal it’s about what happens on the field.

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21 minutes ago, winnyason said:

Look let's be clear here there a reason the nrl looking to get involved in this league and it's not because it's well run. Blind freddy can see its run pathetically and not going in the right direction. Supporters like yourself may have to look at that reality at some stage. 

Yet another display of immense arrogance , believing they can drastically change the sport ( well SL ) in the UK/ France 

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48 minutes ago, winnyason said:

Look let's be clear here there a reason the nrl looking to get involved in this league and it's not because it's well run. Blind freddy can see its run pathetically and not going in the right direction. Supporters like yourself may have to look at that reality at some stage. 

Now that we can agree on.

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1 minute ago, Man of Kent said:

After the news about London wanting to move to AFC Wimbledon for the 2021 season, I’d say the odds on the Broncos have shortened quite a bit.

Agreed, or perhaps they know what's coming for 2022 and are prepping for "selection" 

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43 minutes ago, Cardypaul said:

No you are the one that needs to take a look at yourself Rugby League is supposed to be a competitive sport, not a popularity contest or a business deal it’s about what happens on the field.

Yeah yeah the ceo of superleague does he wear a clown suit ? 

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13 minutes ago, winnyason said:

Yeah yeah the ceo of superleague does he wear a clown suit ? 

Probably if you look at the job he does.

Superleague was set up to improve facilities for players and spectators and to drive up standards so we could beat the Aussies and it has failed on all counts. SL has just become a business tool which is used by clubs to drive their own agendas and business objectives.

Competitive sport should be about success clubs striving to win not just making money and keeping their place in the cash cow!

I hear arguments about what can a club bring to the league the real answer should be competition on the field not what happens off it and if you can’t see it then maybe sport is not for you.

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You’d fancy London’s chances now, wouldn’t you? The move to Wimbledon would seem a little unusual without this promotion available and given that they seemed to finance the addition of a stand at Ealing for 2019. I wonder if this, London getting the position, is a piece in a bigger jigsaw relating to either a partnership with NRL and/or private equity investment in the game. 

History suggests that this is ground well trodden though. London seem to move every few years and we should probably expect another move in a few years, especially given the break clause. There’s little, at this stage, to suggest much will change. There could be a new investor, perhaps, hopefully there is because the foundations, the Academy, at London are pretty impressive. 

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