my missus 464 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 Why can't he just accept that the final was a great game? in todays League Express he reckons it was absorbing if you like "the wrestle" but not an all time classic, how can anyone find anything negative about that game. And why take away Welsby's magic moment by saying french switched off, french was beaten by the bounce he did nothing wrong imo. 7 Quote Through the fish-eyed lens of tear stained eyes I can barely define the shape of this moment in time Link to post Share on other sites
Impartial Observer 178 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 He likes to try to be controversial and different, he is telling everyone today it is Tuesday. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hela Wigmen 2,466 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 People still take what he says seriously? 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cookey 1,206 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 Ignore him,most people do,particularly if they have met him. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Future is League 2,890 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said: People still take what he says seriously? No one of intelligence takes any notice of him. He's just an attention seeker, A very good player, but one of the worst if not the worst Rugby League coache of the modern era and we have a had a few 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my missus 464 Posted November 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 i like to get my £1.80s worth from League Express so i read his two pennoth more fool me. Quote Through the fish-eyed lens of tear stained eyes I can barely define the shape of this moment in time Link to post Share on other sites
The Future is League 2,890 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, my missus said: i like to get my £1.80s worth from League Express so i read his two pennoth more fool me. Indeed. More or less everybody in the game is laughing at him nowadays with what he writes and what he he says. He has zero credit within the game. He has become a figure of fun. He has become someone who people love to ridicule 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DI Keith Fowler 279 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 The tragedy of a man who looks weird with a moustache but even weirder without one. 1 10 Quote I was born to run a club like this. Number 1, I do not spook easily, and those who think I do, are wasting their time, with their surprise attacks. Link to post Share on other sites
Oxford 5,117 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, my missus said: Why can't he just accept that the final was a great game? in todays League Express he reckons it was absorbing if you like "the wrestle" but not an all time classic, how can anyone find anything negative about that game. And why take away Welsby's magic moment by saying french switched off, french was beaten by the bounce he did nothing wrong imo. You've really got to stop reading him, he's been riding the coat tails of his playing days forever, and doesn't have a clue what imposter syndrome is! 4 Quote trayodasha-kula = Link to post Share on other sites
Loiner 338 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, my missus said: Why can't he just accept that the final was a great game? in todays League Express he reckons it was absorbing if you like "the wrestle" but not an all time classic, how can anyone find anything negative about that game. And why take away Welsby's magic moment by saying french switched off, french was beaten by the bounce he did nothing wrong imo. You would say that wouldn't you. Let's be honest the welsby try was a fluke nothing else. On a personal view I thought it was a great game. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dunbar 9,771 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 As I said on the 'Boring' thread, for those who prefer a more open game with plenty of breaks and lots of points scored then saying Friday's game wasn't a classic is a perfectly reasonable stance. It is all about preference. I guess we have to take people on face value and hope they are not just saying it to get attention as that would be a just a tiny bit sad. Personally, I thought it was a classic. Two tries in the game is fine by me and it is two tries more than the most enjoyable game of Rugby I have ever seen (Wigan Manly in '87). 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loiner 338 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 57 minutes ago, my missus said: i like to get my £1.80s worth from League Express so i read his two pennoth more fool me. More fool you for paying £1.80. Don't know how they've cheek to put price up when for most of the year there's been no match reports. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Harry Stottle 4,152 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dunbar said: As I said on the 'Boring' thread, for those who prefer a more open game with plenty of breaks and lots of points scored then saying Friday's game wasn't a classic is a perfectly reasonable stance. It is all about preference. I guess we have to take people on face value and hope they are not just saying it to get attention as that would be a just a tiny bit sad. Personally, I thought it was a classic. Two tries in the game is fine by me and it is two tries more than the most enjoyable game of Rugby I have ever seen (Wigan Manly in '87). Totally agree I to thought it was a wonderful game, BUT there are to many on this site in that if someone has a different opinion to theirs it is wrong, just accept we all do not share the same views. In fact we are short of another emoji, a simple I don't understand would suffice. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Harry Stottle 4,152 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, my missus said: Why can't he just accept that the final was a great game? Because in his opinion it wasn't, accept it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gingerjon 15,662 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, my missus said: Why can't he just accept that the final was a great game? Because it's his job to be a professional contrarian. The problem with people like that is it's often impossible to take what they say at face value. There's a decent chance he genuinely doesn't think it was a great game. There's an equal chance he thinks it was but knows he should write that it wasn't in order to generate interest. 3 Quote Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to post Share on other sites
Pie tries 611 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 Friday was absolute class - as have all players in this covid mauled season. Any distraction from that is misplaced - to put it mildly 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie 3,767 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 29 minutes ago, Loiner said: You would say that wouldn't you. Let's be honest the welsby try was a fluke nothing else. On a personal view I thought it was a great game. It was a fluke for him to spot the opportunity, get past French and touch the ball down without his body going out of play? I’d like to see you fluke that. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dunbar 9,771 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 Just now, Eddie said: It was a fluke for him to spot the opportunity, get past French and touch the ball down without his body going out of play? I’d like to see you fluke that. Absolutely. A player could chase a drop goal attempt in case it hit the post or didn't go dead a thousand times and get no reward. To have the energy and motivation to chase that kick at the end of such a game is tremendous play. It got its reward. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oxford 5,117 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Pie tries said: Friday was absolute class - as have all players in this covid mauled season. Any distraction from that is misplaced - to put it mildly Spot on and although other opinions are just as valid, they are as wrong as a Trump lawsuit. If you weren't on the edge of your seat you've no soul! 7 minutes ago, Eddie said: It was a fluke for him to spot the opportunity, get past French and touch the ball down without his body going out of play? I’d like to see you fluke that. I'm convinced his hand-off on French was no fluke! 1 Quote trayodasha-kula = Link to post Share on other sites
17 stone giant 1,323 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 I thought it was a very good game, possibly even a great game. I wouldn't call it an all-time classic though, mostly for the reasons that Dunbar has outlined. I wouldn't want every game of RL I watched to be like that. That's just my preference. I still enjoyed it a lot, but even as I was watching it, I was hoping it would open up a bit more at some point. As for the try, I'm maybe being harsh but I too thought that French was a bit slow to deal with it. I accept he was very unlucky with a couple of bounces, and the ball hitting the post is obviously unexpected, but I just felt he wasn't quick enough to chase after the ball and deal with it. Put it this way, if England lose a World Cup final or get knocked out by a try like that, I would be raging. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dkw 4,779 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) Calling that try a fluke is a disgraceful description of something we as a sport pride ourselves on, and thats not giving up, chasing everything to the final second of the game, pure effort after 80 minutes of battle by an astonishing young player. Its exactly the kind of thing every single coach at every single level of the sport should be showing all of their players, the rewards that come with incredible effort in the ultimate game in our country. To try and talk it down is disingenuous at best, bitter and pathetic at worst. Zeroing in on French making a mistake rather than Wellsby making the most of the tiniest opportunity sums up the miserable nature of so many of our so called supporters. Edited November 30, 2020 by dkw 14 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
silverback 1,208 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 Dident he mention sneyd as a one trick pony not that long ago.hes paid to talk cobblers and does it well.game were brill and had plenty a biff & bang. needed a crowd to lift roof off in last 5 minutes.wrong options from wigan gave the opportunity to saints.and they took it well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gingerjon 15,662 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 45 minutes ago, dkw said: Calling that try a fluke is a disgraceful description of something we as a sport pride ourselves on, and thats not giving up, chasing everything to the final second of the game, pure effort after 80 minutes of battle by an astonishing young player. Its exactly the kind of thing every single coach at every single level of the sport should be showing all of their players, the rewards that come with incredible effort in the ultimate game in our country. To try and talk it down is disingenuous at best, bitter and pathetic at worst. Zeroing in on French making a mistake rather than Wellsby making the most of the tiniest opportunity sums up the miserable nature of so many of our so called supporters. If you create the circumstances to be lucky then it's not a fluke when luck comes your way. 7 1 Quote Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to post Share on other sites
redjonn 1,269 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 I found the game absorbing but prefer more "free flowing" games as the normal. That doesn't mean I didn't enjoy the intensity and defensive nature of the game - just overall when attending week in, week out I prefer more open attacking creativity to watch on a regular basis. That is more entertaining approach than minimising risk approach - the low risk approach I understand and appreciate in finals... not my cup of tea every week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redjonn 1,269 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, dkw said: Calling that try a fluke is a disgraceful description of something we as a sport pride ourselves on, and thats not giving up, chasing everything to the final second of the game, pure effort after 80 minutes of battle by an astonishing young player. Its exactly the kind of thing every single coach at every single level of the sport should be showing all of their players, the rewards that come with incredible effort in the ultimate game in our country. To try and talk it down is disingenuous at best, bitter and pathetic at worst. Zeroing in on French making a mistake rather than Wellsby making the most of the tiniest opportunity sums up the miserable nature of so many of our so called supporters. Disgraceful seems a rather strong word to use... I leapt out my seat when it hit the post, and then chortled when Wellsby went over... yes I admired his never-give-up attitude... but to say it was disgraceful for someone to have an opinion it was a fluke seems over the top... For me it was an unexpected end to the game... I guess fluke has that meaning - unexpected. Although to add I have seen similar before. full marks to Wellsby for anticipating or expecting it may happen.. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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