Scotchy1 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, hunsletgreenandgold said: I don't disagree with anything you're saying about it being our responsible to help develop other NH sides - I eluded to that myself in an earlier post. But none of what you're saying helps England having a decent run out before next year's WC, which is vital IMO. Forgetting about the need for there to be any longterm legacy and without getting a SH side up here or England travelling down there - you can't disagree that the kind of side that could be put together to play England would be far better than anything the current NH national teams could offer? The exiles probably will be better in the field than an NH side. But its a short term solution which has long term costs (the necessity of it now is a long term cost of short term solutions 5, 10, 15 years ago) But its still not good preparation for England. Especially in a compressed year next year. Players are going to be knackered, we throw an extra game at them, I doubt the first choice exiles, i.e the ones who want to play in the WC will make themselves available in a compressed wc year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Prince Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 On 30/11/2020 at 11:41, Hela Wigmen said: https://www.totalrl.com/exiles-set-to-return/ It’s Groundhog Day all over again. Horse before the cart. Cut the number of fixtures first and then leave space for a representative game. I'd have a Pennine Cup origin game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Rupert Prince said: Horse before the cart. Cut the number of fixtures first and then leave space for a representative game. I'd have a Pennine Cup origin game. Like most things related to rugby league in the United Kingdom and more specifically, Super League, too many have too much to lose by relinquishing their hold on how the game is administrated here, so they’ll likely never vote in a 23 game season. A mid-season international during a year in which we’re starting later and are handicapped, for want of a better term, when it comes to the season ending due to the World Cup, we’re still planning twenty-seven weekly rounds, the Challenge Cup and a six team play-off series and now we’re shoehorning a mid-season international in to the calendar around the time of the Challenge Cup semi-final and a matter of weeks before the Final itself whilst also expecting players to deal with a short turnaround between games before heading into a World Cup and likely resuming the 2022 season in January/February time. It’s farcical and really not that helpful for anyone beyond attempting to justify the full time salary earned by Shaun Wane. I think we should have announced our World Cup warm up games by now but alas, they’ll be last minute, poorly advertised and at the same venues we normally jump between for such games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Prince Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said: Like most things related to rugby league in the United Kingdom and more specifically, Super League, too many have too much to lose by relinquishing their hold on how the game is administrated here, so they’ll likely never vote in a 23 game season. A mid-season international during a year in which we’re starting later and are handicapped, for want of a better term, when it comes to the season ending due to the World Cup, we’re still planning twenty-seven weekly rounds, the Challenge Cup and a six team play-off series and now we’re shoehorning a mid-season international in to the calendar around the time of the Challenge Cup semi-final and a matter of weeks before the Final itself whilst also expecting players to deal with a short turnaround between games before heading into a World Cup and likely resuming the 2022 season in January/February time. It’s farcical and really not that helpful for anyone beyond attempting to justify the full time salary earned by Shaun Wane. I think we should have announced our World Cup warm up games by now but alas, they’ll be last minute, poorly advertised and at the same venues we normally jump between for such games. I would have settled for 24 games, with 2 magic. We should have had 3 tests against Australia by now so its fair to have a full time coach. But given that it's a WC year... where the date is fixed, that we have a later start and refusing to seriously cut fixtures - we have painted ourselves into a corner. If there was an excuse, a need, to cut fixtures then this was it. Our game is amateurish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate90 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 No thanks, need to play France every year instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 So the complete stupidity of trying to play a full season this year is now coming home to roost , if we'd had a shorter season that all teams could have completed , we could have started the 21 season earlier which would have given us more time for all the players to prepare for what will be a very important WC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 35 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: So the complete stupidity of trying to play a full season this year is now coming home to roost , if we'd had a shorter season that all teams could have completed , we could have started the 21 season earlier which would have given us more time for all the players to prepare for what will be a very important WC You were told numerous times that handing back a huge amount of TV money to Sky would have crippled the sport as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Hela Wigmen said: You were told numerous times that handing back a huge amount of TV money to Sky would have crippled the sport as a whole. Do you have a link to SKYs demand for the money back ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: Do you have a link to SKYs demand for the money back ? Hand back may well be the wrong term, however, Super League clubs had to agree a smaller share of monies (£280,000 less each) from Sky for the 2021 season due to failing to meet the agreed contractual amount of games. So your suggestion of a ten round season would have seen a significantly lesser share than the ones they’re facing next year, which would have been dangerously perilous for all. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jun/19/super-league-clubs-face-280000-hit-after-sky-sports-agrees-revised-tv-deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yipyee Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 On 01/12/2020 at 20:50, M j M said: A high level of BS In here, even by your standards. We know it does sell tickets given it attracted 14,000+ to the first game when it was heavily promoted and genuinely exciting. Bring that level of build up back, encourage a little bit of pantomime bad-mouthing by the Exiles players and we'll get a crowd bigger than we would ever do for the second tier internationals we usually stage. You cant build it up now everyone knows its a crock of sh.t First time was curiosity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yipyee Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 15 hours ago, Wellsy4HullFC said: Past results have shown that France cannot put out a competitive side mid season and it never gets a good crowd. What makes you think it'll be any different this time? The same as the stupid exiles theorys.. Only with France this time around the french players are more spread out through SL and Toulouse are playing at a higher level and have experience against SL opposition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 4 hours ago, Hela Wigmen said: Hand back may well be the wrong term, however, Super League clubs had to agree a smaller share of monies (£280,000 less each) from Sky for the 2021 season due to failing to meet the agreed contractual amount of games. So your suggestion of a ten round season would have seen a significantly lesser share than the ones they’re facing next year, which would have been dangerously perilous for all. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jun/19/super-league-clubs-face-280000-hit-after-sky-sports-agrees-revised-tv-deal So instead , we ' kill ' the players , and mess up the WC Be interested to know how many games were televised this year ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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