Oxford Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 39 minutes ago, Gav Wilson said: Twice in a decade now that Betts has been promoted without winning the division! "As I walk down the street Seems everyone I meet Gives me a friendly hello I guess I'm just a lucky so and so" 41 minutes ago, Gav Wilson said: Twice in a decade now that Betts has been promoted without winning the division! Well, When the boat comes in! 2 warning points Non-Political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooleboy Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 43 minutes ago, Gav Wilson said: Twice in a decade now that Betts has been promoted without winning the division! He seems to have the midas touch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutralfan7 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Eddie said: You think they’ll be a lot weaker than Oldham or Whitehaven? Whitehaven have recruited well this off season so I don't think they'll be relegated next season. As stated, if Newcastle are to stand a chance they need to recruit now as the current crop they have arent up to standard IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whippet13 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Very pleased it is Newcastle. Be interesting to see who they get on the Friday night of Magic weekend as that's traditionally their largest gate. Hopefully it'll be Leigh with their big away support and they can set a new attendence record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldbear Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Congrats guys! A reward for the hard work put in over the years, although once again I wish it could have been decided on the field of play and I feel really sorry for Barrow. Now the hard work starts, the role model has to be York, who have steadily progressed since their promotion. As some have pointed out we can’t get carried away here, recruitment will be needed and the target is not the SL wannabies, but finishing above Oldham, Swinton, Haven. As a side thought I wonder if any of the SL aspirationals have thought about trying to recruit Denis Betts, given that he seems to be the master of winning promotion without on field success! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder fan Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 2 hours ago, clogdance said: Not really surprised Newcastle got the nod, not too sure what their home crowds were though, but I guess not many in league 1 (last season) got over 1K for a game. Hopefully they will get 4 figure crowds in the championship.I know they are ambitous, but you can't fulfil that without speccys. average 1100 in the 2019 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NERugbyDad Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 31 minutes ago, Whippet13 said: Very pleased it is Newcastle. Be interesting to see who they get on the Friday night of Magic weekend as that's traditionally their largest gate. Hopefully it'll be Leigh with their big away support and they can set a new attendence record. Rather than typing again set below 3 hours ago, NERugbyDad said: At this year's postponed magic thunder were supposed to be playing Doncaster at St James as the opening game on the Saturday so probably will be the same next year just not donny. Friday at kingston park was going to be the reserves and the academy teams playing there counterparts from leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ringo Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 24 minutes ago, Thunder fan said: average 1100 in the 2019 season. Actually with what you posted last week one game you had an over double att of over 1800 and another game 1250, the others averaged between 500 to 800 so 2 games gave a distorted average over the season if what you posted is correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glemiln Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Anyone seen this Reset document - one of the criteria met by Newcastle? ‘’Delivering the broader goals of the sport as set out in the RFL’s Strategy Reset document.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger06 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, glemiln said: Anyone seen this Reset document - one of the criteria met by Newcastle? ‘’Delivering the broader goals of the sport as set out in the RFL’s Strategy Reset document.” Its on the RFL website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 35 minutes ago, Johnny Ringo said: Actually with what you posted last week one game you had an over double att of over 1800 and another game 1250, the others averaged between 500 to 800 so 2 games gave a distorted average over the season if what you posted is correct? You do understand how mean averages work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger06 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, glemiln said: Anyone seen this Reset document - one of the criteria met by Newcastle? ‘’Delivering the broader goals of the sport as set out in the RFL’s Strategy Reset document.” Its under About the RFL on the main menu, then into strategy & reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derwent Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Eddie said: You think they’ll be a lot weaker than Oldham or Whitehaven? Whitehaven have recruited very well, brought in several Aussies and players like Gregg McNally, so yes I do. I’m not prejudiced, I hate everybody equally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 47 minutes ago, Johnny Ringo said: Actually with what you posted last week one game you had an over double att of over 1800 and another game 1250, the others averaged between 500 to 800 so 2 games gave a distorted average over the season if what you posted is correct? Averages tend to work like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derwent Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Davo5 said: But the season doesn't start tomorrow,they will obviously recruit a higher quality player now they have moved up a level which will enable them to at least compete with the Oldham's,Swinton's and Whitehaven's of the division. Where they going to sign these higher quality players from at this late stage ? I’m not prejudiced, I hate everybody equally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, Derwent said: Where they going to sign these higher quality players from at this late stage ? Is it a late stage, the season isn’t starting for 4 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, Derwent said: Where they going to sign these higher quality players from at this late stage ? Probably a similar place to where Leeds are going to sign a prop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Tommygilf said: Probably a similar place to where Leeds are going to sign a prop! They’d better get on with it, the new season is nearly upon us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derwent Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Eddie said: Is it a late stage, the season isn’t starting for 4 months. Players were officially off-contract at end of November, most have their next deal already sorted by then as they can talk to other clubs from July. Any player of decent quality will already be signed up even if not yet announced. They tend to end one contract on 30th November and commence a new one on 1st December to ensure continuity of income. Plus the season starts in 2 months, not 4, if you discount the festive period. First week in March is the target start date for Championship and League 1. Clubs will want their squad finalised by end of January at latest. Some clubs have already started pre-season training including Newcastle Thunder. They really haven’t got much time at all to prepare and recruit. I’m not prejudiced, I hate everybody equally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Derwent said: Players were officially off-contract at end of November, most have their next deal already sorted by then as they can talk to other clubs from July. Any player of decent quality will already be signed up even if not yet announced. They tend to end one contract on 30th November and commence a new one on 1st December to ensure continuity of income. Plus the season starts in 2 months, not 4, if you discount the festive period. First week in March is the target start date for Championship and League 1. Clubs will want their squad finalised by end of January at latest. Some clubs have already started pre-season training including Newcastle Thunder. They really haven’t got much time at all to prepare and recruit. I seriously don’t think Newcastle will be unable to recruit the seven or eight players that they need to stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris22 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Four RLWC games, Magic Weekend, Newcastle promoted to the Championship. It's set up to be a brilliant year next year for Newcastle in rugby league. They look to have a patient, sustainable approach to expansion and I wish them all the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ringo Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Tommygilf said: You do understand how mean averages work? Yes I do thank you, I'd like to know what the over 1800 game was? A special one off? 100% Gate increase is very unusual for any club? 500 to 800 a game the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Johnny Ringo said: Yes I do thank you, I'd like to know what the over 1800 game was? A special one off? 100% Gate increase is very unusual for any club? 500 to 800 a game the rest of the season. Might have been, indeed I might have been at it actually as they did a double header with Toronto last year. Nice to have a boost in any case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NERugbyDad Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Johnny Ringo said: Yes I do thank you, I'd like to know what the over 1800 game was? A special one off? 100% Gate increase is very unusual for any club? 500 to 800 a game the rest of the season. The 1,817 in 2019 was the first game of season against Doncaster that was a double header with the second game being Toronto vs Widnes. As for the rest of the season being 500-800 a game, you seem to be going number blind as 4 out of the 9 other games were 1,000+ and another 2 were nearly 900, those being: Keighley - 1,423 London - 1,098 Whitehaven - 1,079 Workington - 1,077 Oldham - 889 North Wales Crusaders - 883 Why the constant need to try and put down what the Thunder are doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Ringo Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, NERugbyDad said: The 1,817 in 2019 was the first game of season against Doncaster that was a double header with the second game being Toronto vs Widnes. As for the rest of the season being 500-800 a game, you seem to be going number blind as 4 out of the 9 other games were 1,000+ and another 2 were nearly 900, those being: Keighley - 1,423 London - 1,098 Whitehaven - 1,079 Workington - 1,077 Oldham - 889 North Wales Crusaders - 883 Why the constant need to try and put down what the Thunder are doing? I'm just asking for the figures, BTW you omitted Coventry 711, Hunslet 624, West Wales 679. But its OK I was just interested about the highest gate, I never realised it was a double header with the Woolpack and Widnes, which explains it thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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