Scotland RL

[Sports Prophet]

1 hour ago, DoubleD said:

The RFL ceased responsibility for other UK nations following Sport England guidance some 10-15 years ago which determined that Sport England funding could only be used for England. This was during the early days of devolution. It was then incumbent upon Wales, Scotland to put in place measures to apply for funding from their national bodies. 

 

Yet all the development staff of Scotland and Wales will attend development training events organised, managed and paid for by the RFL.

The coaching and referee training is all content developed by the RFL. Unlike say in France, where it is created by the FFRXIII, or say Serbia, where it was developed by the RLEF.

Doesn’t sound like the RFL have ceased responsibility to me.

[OriginalMrC]

8 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:

Yet all the development staff of Scotland and Wales will attend development training events organised, managed and paid for by the RFL.

The coaching and referee training is all content developed by the RFL. Unlike say in France, where it is created by the FFRXIII, or say Serbia, where it was developed by the RLEF.

Doesn’t sound like the RFL have ceased responsibility to me.

OK so if the RFL have responsibility it is time to scrap Wales, Ireland and Scotland RL. I'm sure they will be delighted 

[Damien]

10 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:

Yet all the development staff of Scotland and Wales will attend development training events organised, managed and paid for by the RFL.

The coaching and referee training is all content developed by the RFL. Unlike say in France, where it is created by the FFRXIII, or say Serbia, where it was developed by the RLEF.

Doesn’t sound like the RFL have ceased responsibility to me.

Scotland Rugby League put on their own courses as well as through partnerships with charitable organisations like Community Integrated Care. I know that Rugby League Ireland operates in a similar manner too with RLI officials doing the teaching and the RLI following the RLEF coaching course framework and the RLI doing their ownrefereeing courses.

Sport Scotland provide funding towards these courses, as they do towards coaching courses ran by governing bodies like Scotland Rugby League, and the rest is funded by the candidate themselves. They also get assistance from the RLEF. 

I don't think anyone considers tapping into existing resource frameworks as the RFL having responsibility. That's simply a governing body choosing to do that as it makes sense to do so. The RFL certainly arent paying for anything.

Edited July 15 by Damien

[Sports Prophet]

Well, whether we feel it is the RFLs “responsibility” or not, I think we are letting this matter detract from the thread.

What is a certainty is SRL’s responsibilities, so maybe we need to focus back on them.

[2blackrooks]

Well despite all the banter Scotland ran out winners over USA 32-10 so will go on to meet France 

[Dave T]

16 hours ago, RugbyLeagueGeek said:

If it's in their constitution then it should be in the documents that matter as well. You seem to be suggesting that they have changed their constitution and not updated things accordingly. I think that it's just as likely that they haven't changed their constitution and are trying to absolve themselves of their responsibilities. Either way, both scenarios are the mark of an amateurish organisation.

Do you have a live link to the RFL's constitution. I'm struggling to find anything on their website.

 

On this page it does say "Governing, supporting and promoting Rugby League in the UK" in the visual.

Governance (rugby-league.com)

Edited July 15 by Dave T

[langpark]

6 hours ago, 2blackrooks said:

Well despite all the banter Scotland ran out winners over USA 32-10 so will go on to meet France 

With 2/17 Scottish accents in the team. 

#Development

[The Future is League]

54 minutes ago, langpark said:

With 2/17 Scottish accents in the team. 

#Development

I really can't see the point of Scotland playing in this championship if they are using so many English players.

[Dave T]

13 hours ago, The Future is League said:

I really can't see the point of Scotland playing in this championship if they are using so many English players.

I think I read yesterday that none of the USA team that they played had played 13-a-side RL before yesterday.  Really what is the point of this tournament?

Edited July 16 by Dave T

[langpark]

1 hour ago, Dave T said:

I think I read yesterday that none of the USA team that they played had played 13-a-side RL before yesterday.  Really what is the point of this tournament?

Yes, they said that in the post-match interview with Steve Mascord.

I suppose he hope is that this might be the start of some new youth activity in the US?

[Dave T]

3 minutes ago, langpark said:

Yes, they said that in the post-match interview with Steve Mascord.

I suppose he hope is that this might be the start of some new youth activity in the US?

The problem is that we can't keep giving places based on zero foundations. Wasn't it similar with the Canada Women's team in the WC, with them being Union players? 

[fighting irish]

On 15/07/2024 at 12:40, 2blackrooks said:

Well despite all the banter Scotland ran out winners over USA 32-10 so will go on to meet France 

Please tell me more about this game/tournament? Was it at senior men's level? Where was it played? etc etc. 

 

[OriginalMrC]

1 hour ago, fighting irish said:

Please tell me more about this game/tournament? Was it at senior men's level? Where was it played? etc etc. 

 

European u19 played in Belgrade, Serbia. USA are there, Ukraine, France, England, England B (Scotland) and Serbia. No Wales and no Ireland.

[Damien]

2 hours ago, fighting irish said:

Please tell me more about this game/tournament? Was it at senior men's level? Where was it played? etc etc. 

 

 

 

[Eddie]

On 15/07/2024 at 19:24, langpark said:

With 2/17 Scottish accents in the team. 

#Development

That many? 

[Eddie]

5 hours ago, OriginalMrC said:

European u19 played in Belgrade, Serbia. USA are there, Ukraine, France, England, England B (Scotland) and Serbia. No Wales and no Ireland.

Good to see Serbia and Ukraine involved at this level, with teams who I assume are home grown. 

[OriginalMrC]

Just now, Eddie said:

Good to see Serbia and Ukraine involved at this level, with teams who I assume are home grown. 

I understand they may have a handful of Aussie heritage players but the majority of their squads are home grown.

[langpark]

8 hours ago, OriginalMrC said:

I understand they may have a handful of Aussie heritage players but the majority of their squads are home grown.

Yes there was an article saying Ukraine had 5 Aussies (4 players, 1 coach I believe) that flew in for the matches. 

Serbia I believe are 100% domestic. 

Their match with USA today should be interesting, though I expect USA to win. 

[Damien]

9 hours ago, OriginalMrC said:

I understand they may have a handful of Aussie heritage players but the majority of their squads are home grown.

As far as know Ukraine only have 2 heritage players. Serbia have 1 lad that plays at Siddal but not sure if he's heritage or not.

[2blackrooks]

Glasgow defeated Forth to reach the grand final this coming Saturday at Cambuslang KO 3pm where they take on Edinburgh 

Prior to this Scotland U16’s take on Ireland over 2 games. Game 1 starts at 12pm

Admission is £5

[2blackrooks]

After leadIng at halftime 12-4 Glasgow succumbed to Edinburgh 24-30 in a closely fought contest. The great thing is how Glasgow have improved over the past 12 months, even Forth Valley have impressed with closely fought games. 
Hopefully we can get at least 1 other team up n running next year

[Eddie]

12 hours ago, 2blackrooks said:

After leadIng at halftime 12-4 Glasgow succumbed to Edinburgh 24-30 in a closely fought contest. The great thing is how Glasgow have improved over the past 12 months, even Forth Valley have impressed with closely fought games. 
Hopefully we can get at least 1 other team up n running next year

Thanks for the info. Do you know if there are any highlights available? 

[Henson Park Old Firm]

[Arizonared]

On 16/07/2024 at 03:35, Dave T said:

The problem is that we can't keep giving places based on zero foundations. Wasn't it similar with the Canada Women's team in the WC, with them being Union players? 

The difference here is that the USA team were I believe entirely from the state of Utah, where they actually have a fledgling Rugby League competition going at Junior level. They have a 4 team league at senior level too. There are a lot of Polynesians in Utah and there are a lot of them that are already familiar with league. This is the start of a long process for Rugby League in Utah, but they are trying their best to build up the sport and not rely on Union.

[fighting irish]

12 hours ago, Arizonared said:

The difference here is that the USA team were I believe entirely from the state of Utah, where they actually have a fledgling Rugby League competition going at Junior level. They have a 4 team league at senior level too. There are a lot of Polynesians in Utah and there are a lot of them that are already familiar with league. This is the start of a long process for Rugby League in Utah, but they are trying their best to build up the sport and not rely on Union.

I'd love to see a team selected from the very best of the entire USARL and tested against Wales, France and England, not necessarily in the same season but in that order, to gauge their relative playing strength. Then regular competition (at that level) to encourage growth of the game, in respective countries.

Why was selection for this tournament restricted to the Utah clubs?