Man of Kent Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 I’m sure I read the other day that the RFL wouldn’t authorise Barba’s player registration. Has that changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 17 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: Yes this is no different to any other season what a Championship clubs suffers when they get promoted, they only find out the last game of the season that their campaign has been successful, by then most player's are contracted to other clubs. Will this year prove to be different though? and not wanting to seem like the vulture circling high above the carrion, but if for reasons beyond anyone's control the Championship does not play because of Covid restrictions there will be some very good player's doing nothing - SL doesn't have 100% of them all - any SL club with recruitment or injury problems will most likely take advantage of the situation, BUT I do hope it does not come to that, the vaccine's work and we can all get back to some normality. Didn't happen to Hull KR, one of only 3 clubs to have come up since P/R was reintroduced. Didn't happen to Leigh the first time either really? The championship may be a source some clubs can draw on I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Man of Kent said: I’m sure I read the other day that the RFL wouldn’t authorise Barba’s player registration. Has that changed? I’ve seen nothing that says that it has changed & unless it does this story is merely speculation probably started by either the player or their Agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonUK Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 53 minutes ago, LeeF said: I’ve seen nothing that says that it has changed & unless it does this story is merely speculation probably started by either the player or their Agent This was not stated by the RFL but by a reporter or someone who said that they didn't think he would get a visa because he hadn't played NRL in the last 2 years. But yes I think the RFL have to 'sponsor' the visa. Here we go again ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Tommygilf said: Didn't happen to Hull KR, one of only 3 clubs to have come up since P/R was reintroduced. Didn't happen to Leigh the first time either really? The championship may be a source some clubs can draw on I agree. HKR kept the nucleus from SL in the Championship, our mistake in 2018. It certainly was the case in 2005 for us, the transition from PT to FT was huge with a number of players not wanting it eg Larder, and real desperate recruitment eg McCurrie, Marshall, Fleary and Ferris to name but a few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Good signing for Leigh if they get him, he clearly has his troubles but they’ve been dealt with by the law and if he can behave himself now then good on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Eddie said: Good signing for Leigh if they get him, he clearly has his troubles but they’ve been dealt with by the law and if he can behave himself now then good on him. It would mean that Leigh are even more competitive which will be good for SL. 2 warning points Non-Political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 6 hours ago, LeeF said: A certain percentage of NRL games or Internationals or a British passport How did Inglis get one then?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, bobbruce said: How did Inglis get one then?. I can only assume he met the criteria prevailing at the time. Also hasn’t he played more recently than Barba And Inglis wasn’t banned from the sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Bottom line is there is nobody for Leigh to sign UK players all tied up months earlier Best SH players all signed up and as has been mentioned covid rules out the Euro trip incentive Even the lesser NRL , better QC/NSWC players won't be travelling north So it's down to the ' bad lads ' who aren't playing anywhere , and then perhaps saving a bit to bring in mid/late season from the bottom of the NRL Just the way it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 26 minutes ago, LeeF said: I can only assume he met the criteria prevailing at the time. Also hasn’t he played more recently than Barba And Inglis wasn’t banned from the sport He played 2 games in 2019 season. I’m not disputing what you say jts just I don’t think Inglis qualifies on the list you gave. The RFL have found a way to get by this so it must be possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 42 minutes ago, bobbruce said: He played 2 games in 2019 season. I’m not disputing what you say jts just I don’t think Inglis qualifies on the list you gave. The RFL have found a way to get by this so it must be possible. They can support a request outside the stated criteria in exceptional circumstances eg injury or a “star” player. A player banned from the NRL wouldn’t meet these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted January 8, 2021 Author Share Posted January 8, 2021 27 minutes ago, LeeF said: They can support a request outside the stated criteria in exceptional circumstances eg injury or a “star” player. A player banned from the NRL wouldn’t meet these Basically the bottom line is if the RFL/SL can find a way to allow some players that do not fit all of the permissible criteria to come to these shores to ply their trade, then it would be totally petty to deny a club the services of an available player, a club who in effect are making up the numbers to enable an even fixture list for SL, a club who are already at a financial disadvantage from all their contemporaries in being awarded a less funding level. OK it is my club, but whoever had been chosen to fill the 12th spot I would be arguing exactly the same if the powers that be denied the signing of a player when others have been allowed 'exceptional circumstances' to influence the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldbear Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 hours ago, GUBRATS said: Bottom line is there is nobody for Leigh to sign UK players all tied up months earlier Best SH players all signed up and as has been mentioned covid rules out the Euro trip incentive Even the lesser NRL , better QC/NSWC players won't be travelling north So it's down to the ' bad lads ' who aren't playing anywhere , and then perhaps saving a bit to bring in mid/late season from the bottom of the NRL Just the way it is Bingo! The only players available are guys with off field baggage, guys with injury history and guys not known for being good team players. With the former at least you offer a chance at redemption and hope they want to redeem themselves as well, with the second group you take a huge risk that you won’t get a season out of them, not ideal if you have a smallish squad and the latter group can destroy your team cohesion if they don’t get their way so need to be avoided at all costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Harry Stottle said: Basically the bottom line is if the RFL/SL can find a way to allow some players that do not fit all of the permissible criteria to come to these shores to ply their trade, then it would be totally petty to deny a club the services of an available player, a club who in effect are making up the numbers to enable an even fixture list for SL, a club who are already at a financial disadvantage from all their contemporaries in being awarded a less funding level. OK it is my club, but whoever had been chosen to fill the 12th spot I would be arguing exactly the same if the powers that be denied the signing of a player when others have been allowed 'exceptional circumstances' to influence the decision. Inglis isn’t or ever was banned from the game. Barba is/ was. That to me is a massive difference in this instance. I would be saying the same if my club was the 12th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Harry Stottle said: Basically the bottom line is if the RFL/SL can find a way to allow some players that do not fit all of the permissible criteria to come to these shores to ply their trade, then it would be totally petty to deny a club the services of an available player, a club who in effect are making up the numbers to enable an even fixture list for SL, a club who are already at a financial disadvantage from all their contemporaries in being awarded a less funding level. OK it is my club, but whoever had been chosen to fill the 12th spot I would be arguing exactly the same if the powers that be denied the signing of a player when others have been allowed 'exceptional circumstances' to influence the decision. Dead right Harry , if the current situation isn't ' exceptional circumstances ' , what is ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Oldbear said: Bingo! The only players available are guys with off field baggage, guys with injury history and guys not known for being good team players. With the former at least you offer a chance at redemption and hope they want to redeem themselves as well, with the second group you take a huge risk that you won’t get a season out of them, not ideal if you have a smallish squad and the latter group can destroy your team cohesion if they don’t get their way so need to be avoided at all costs. It's usually the second group the promoted ( in normal circumstances ) club gets most of , and then crosses it's fingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, LeeF said: Inglis isn’t or ever was banned from the game. Barba is/ was. That to me is a massive difference in this instance. I would be saying the same if my club was the 12th So who do you think Leigh should sign ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 12 hours ago, Wire quin said: He's good in a good team, sadly thats not what he's joining. Leigh could do with a FB that can defend. What he brings in the gold dust of his twinkly toes and vision will more than compensate.... Besides don't recall him making many mistakes at the back evrn against the better teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: What he brings in the gold dust of his twinkly toes and vision will more than compensate.... Besides don't recall him making many mistakes at the back evrn against the better teams It is the ability to inspire his fellow players , is a Ben Barba going to singlehandedly keep Leigh in SL ? , No , but his rare skill and quality might ( MIGHT ) inspire and give his fellow players the confidence to believe they can finish higher than 12th , and if there is bonus's to be had ( that is what I'd be putting in front all the players , especially Barba ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldbear Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, GUBRATS said: It is the ability to inspire his fellow players , is a Ben Barba going to singlehandedly keep Leigh in SL ? , No , but his rare skill and quality might ( MIGHT ) inspire and give his fellow players the confidence to believe they can finish higher than 12th , and if there is bonus's to be had ( that is what I'd be putting in front all the players , especially Barba ) Correct, having such rare skill and talent often inspires lesser players to overachieve, evidence Jackson Hastings at Salford. If Barba behaves, stays fit and focused, he is a good signing and may be the difference between 10th - 12th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 hours ago, GUBRATS said: It is the ability to inspire his fellow players , is a Ben Barba going to singlehandedly keep Leigh in SL ? , No , but his rare skill and quality might ( MIGHT ) inspire and give his fellow players the confidence to believe they can finish higher than 12th , and if there is bonus's to be had ( that is what I'd be putting in front all the players , especially Barba ) He'll sell plenty of shirts and eventually seats too Have to say I'm looking forward to seeing him again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 10 hours ago, GUBRATS said: So who do you think Leigh should sign ? Without speaking to every agent & player I don’t know who is available so a silly question. I just very strongly believe that if a player is banned in Australia that he shouldn’t be signed over here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 10 hours ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: What he brings in the gold dust of his twinkly toes and vision will more than compensate.... Besides don't recall him making many mistakes at the back evrn against the better teams He did go missing a bit when the intensity went up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 11 hours ago, GUBRATS said: So who do you think Leigh should sign ? Dec Patton has become available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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