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Poll: When would you feel confident about attending Rugby League matches in 2021, in light of the Covid pandemic?


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For me a lot will depend on the circumstances and regulations as to whether or not I attend games.

 I think in all honesty I have attended my last ever rugby league game live, and indeed I think I have attended my last ever football match too.

 And if that’s the case then so be it, I will accept that at the age of 48 that part of my life is over.

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On 09/02/2021 at 05:31, John Drake said:

Please keep this thread on the subject of the League Express readers poll, and avoid escalating it into a discussion on the efficacy or otherwise of the various vaccines, and whether to have them, etc.

Thanks.

The poll is flawed because the appropriate answer for the vast majority (namely, After I/whoever has been vaccinated) is missing.

Vaccines protect the person who's being vaccinated, so the number of other persons in the population who've been vaccinated isn't really relevant to whether a person would be safe going to see matches in person.

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19 minutes ago, Big Picture said:

The poll is flawed because the appropriate answer for the vast majority (namely, After I/whoever has been vaccinated) is missing.

Vaccines protect the person who's being vaccinated, so the number of other persons in the population who've been vaccinated isn't really relevant to whether a person would be safe going to see matches in person.

Actually, given how the vaccine is being rolled out in the UK, you basically put yourself in the percentile you are likely to get your jab in if you would make your choice based on that. If you're older, the lower the percentage.

The option you suggest would be pointless as it is the obvious point nearly everyone would choose, but it is not realistic till the end of the season, and therefore isn't really helpful either.

Nevertheless, the reopening of society is going to be based on numbers vaccinated and will certainly expect be before anything like 75% of adults have been injected. The entertainment and leisure sector is essentially going to rely on the confidence of the more youthful unvaccinated population feeling confident to emerge and for the over 50s who have been vaccinated to do likewise. 

Perhaps a more interesting question would be not about percentages of the country, but percentages of a specific venue. If some people will only go to a venue where everyone has been vaccinated that is going to present a huge problem for the leisure industry, because the biggest parts of that market are generally young adults or families, both of whom are likely to be unvaccinated until at least late summer/autumn (and in the case of families likely never for the children). Vaccine segregation becoming age segregation (and that's before you throw in all the other metrics) does not seem like a viable solution.

So we return to the poll options. 

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Incidentally, I've just done a survey for the 2021 World Cup which focused heavily on willingness to attend matches and what, if any, Covid related changes people would put up with such as: proof of negative tests, masks inside stadiums, sitting next to other households, proof of vaccination, etc.

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But if say 75% of the crowd  that had been vaccinated sat in one side,and the 25% in other side that dont/havent/ had the vaccine, would it just be rife amongs those fans choose how old they are. or is it a case of hoping it just goes away after a while.?

 suppose it could apply to more than a rugby match,i would go to a game or even jump on a plane if i knew everyone had been jabbed. sorry john..:kolobok_good:

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My feeling is that in order for spectators to be allowed back into sports stadiums,theatres and concerts you will have to have been vaccinated and it be on a”Health Passport”on your mobile phone.It will be the Government who insist on it not the clubs etc.

It will be no jab,no entry.

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44 minutes ago, silverback said:

But if say 75% of the crowd  that had been vaccinated sat in one side,and the 25% in other side that dont/havent/ had the vaccine, would it just be rife amongs those fans choose how old they are. or is it a case of hoping it just goes away after a while.?

 suppose it could apply to more than a rugby match,i would go to a game or even jump on a plane if i knew everyone had been jabbed. sorry john..:kolobok_good:

It becomes a bit of a joke really this year, especially given the age disparities. Either you are happy to attend as fans were in small numbers last Autumn or you aren't.

Next year may well be different and I expect vaccine passports to be most likely only after the point where everyone has had access to a vaccine.

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10 minutes ago, Robthegasman said:

My feeling is that in order for spectators to be allowed back into sports stadiums,theatres and concerts you will have to have been vaccinated and it be on a”Health Passport”on your mobile phone.It will be the Government who insist on it not the clubs etc.

It will be no jab,no entry.

That's only plausible once everyone has been offered the vaccine, though clearly it is a concept major events such as the RLWC2021 team are at least acknowledging as a possibility for this year. I actually think were more likely in the short term, if we are to see one at all, to see a version of a health passport aimed specifically at the over 50s.

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1 hour ago, Tommygilf said:

That's only plausible once everyone has been offered the vaccine, though clearly it is a concept major events such as the RLWC2021 team are at least acknowledging as a possibility for this year. I actually think were more likely in the short term, if we are to see one at all, to see a version of a health passport aimed specifically at the over 50s.

Me personally as a 48 year old when it is my turn to have the vaccine I will refuse it.So I guess that will be me not going to games again.

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On 08/02/2021 at 10:58, Man of Kent said:

This weekend, though at the moment I’d be more worried about hypothermia  than Covid.

How cold is it there? Reason I ask is that we currently have a polar vortex sat over BC, giving us temperatures which are 10C lower than the February norm, is it the same for you guys?. When I took the dog out for her morning walk it was registering-16C in West Kelowna, with wind chill factored in the temperature was -22C and last night it touched -30C. Those are normally prairie temperatures, not us soft Western Canadians, and they tell me it’s getting colder before it improves. Thank heavens for working from home!

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Too many factors and uncertainties at the moment.

When will I (and my family) get the vaccine? What will case rates be like when games are looking to be opened up to people again?  Will crowds be limited? Will attempts be made to distance people at games? etc etc. 

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3 hours ago, Oldbear said:

How cold is it there? Reason I ask is that we currently have a polar vortex sat over BC, giving us temperatures which are 10C lower than the February norm, is it the same for you guys?. When I took the dog out for her morning walk it was registering-16C in West Kelowna, with wind chill factored in the temperature was -22C and last night it touched -30C. Those are normally prairie temperatures, not us soft Western Canadians, and they tell me it’s getting colder before it improves. Thank heavens for working from home!

It’s about -5 here in Kent and got as low as -10 last night. Exceptionally cold for SE England. It was -23 in the Cairngorms last night, coldest anywhere in the UK since 1995. Winds from Ukraine etc.

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1 hour ago, Man of Kent said:

It’s about -5 here in Kent and got as low as -10 last night. Exceptionally cold for SE England. It was -23 in the Cairngorms last night, coldest anywhere in the UK since 1995. Winds from Ukraine etc.

Sounds a bit like us, our winds are coming from Greenland and the North Pole, hard to believe I live in wine producing country! Have a meeting at a vineyard tomorrow, forecast -20 in the daytime, don’t plan on spending any time outdoors. As I said before, the temperatures we are having now are more typical of Prairie provinces and Eastern Canada, not soft BC!

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On 11/02/2021 at 08:10, Robthegasman said:

For me a lot will depend on the circumstances and regulations as to whether or not I attend games.

 I think in all honesty I have attended my last ever rugby league game live, and indeed I think I have attended my last ever football match too.

 And if that’s the case then so be it, I will accept that at the age of 48 that part of my life is over.

at the age of 48 that part of my life is over.

that need not be the case. Some of us on here have been to live games in our 50s...or 60s...or 70s...maybe even 80s.😀😀

My personal position is to be ultra cautious. Just because I am allowed to do something, does not meet I should or would. The current restrictions are not some sort of barrier to be challenged. They are a boundary that we need to keep clear of.

By my calculations, the vaccination I've had and will have won't reach its max effect for me until late May. Recall that even then, it does not guarantee I can't get ill through Covid, nor that I can't transmit it. In addition, 

I'm going to kep a close eye on the figures: attributed deaths,  hospital admissions,  infection numbers, ONS stats and an important one that seems to be missed,  the percentage of tests taken that show a positive result. 

So even if enough restrictions are lifted, and even if figures are much reduced, I'll still be cautious.  My target would be to attend the World Cup with my long standing buddy from Farnborough. 

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11 hours ago, Chris22 said:

It's a relevant poll IMO. We have a relatively old fanbase and many may not return having either got out of the habit or due to health concerns. This could pose a big problem for the sport and cashflow, especially with lower league clubs.

Absolutely, which is why the RLWC and I suspect the government too will be monitoring the same attitudes.

If a lot of people, despite themselves being vaccinated and social distancing etc applied, don't feel safe enough to attend matches that is a simply a horrendous outlook for the economy and the government will almost certainly change its advertising tack. Likewise too much gung ho sentiment and they'll try to double down on the warnings.

I think generally we're in a position where the dividing line is somewhere between 50 to 60 years old that the age groups below are going to want to be let out as soon as those older (and more vulnerable) have been vaccinated - regardless of their own vaccination status due to the immensely lower risk to them and removed risk of passing it on to vulnerable associates. I ultimately think the economic and social pressures for that are going to be huge come April.

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2 hours ago, Robin Evans said:

I'm desperate to see some rugby now....

Not sure if it's an overwhelming desire to watch a sport I'm feeling increasingly disenfranchised/detached from,  or that I'm missing the brethren and just want to socialise ......

Chuffin fed up.... 

#safetyfirst

You'll be fine , you'll be having your second jab I a couple of weeks 😉

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