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[Big Picture]

8 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

They are nearly twice as big, the Salary cap only applies to the first 25 players in a Super League squad, whereas in Union its 45 

So even after the cut in the RU cap their players will still get about 1/3 more money on average than SL players at the few clubs which can afford to spend the full SL cap.

[bobbruce]

2 hours ago, Big Picture said:

They're not twice as big; Bristol Bears' 2020-21 squad lists 42 players according to Wikipedia and SL teams often use 30 during a season so that's less than half again as many players.  Even allowing for the fact that the SL cap just covers the top 25 players on a team, RU still pays a lot more than RL now, even after that 28% cut in their salary cap.

In SL only the top 25 count on the cap.  Unless someone in the top 25 doesn’t play enough games to count. 

[Tommygilf]

1 minute ago, Big Picture said:

So even after the cut in the RU cap their players will still get about 1/3 more money on average than SL players at the few clubs which can afford to spend the full SL cap.

Depends if you include Saracens or not

[Big Picture]

1 minute ago, Tommygilf said:

Depends if you include Saracens or not

They're in the division below, does it have the same salary cap as their Premiership?

[Tommygilf]

Just now, Big Picture said:

They're in the division below, does it have the same salary cap as their Premiership?

Its saracens, it doesn't matter!

[bobbruce]

4 minutes ago, Big Picture said:

So even after the cut in the RU cap their players will still get about 1/3 more money on average than SL players at the few clubs which can afford to spend the full SL cap.

I don’t see how with dispensations the top SL clubs will be spending about £2.5m on on salaries. Add to that whatever part of the marquee signings that doesn’t count towards the cap you could easily be close to £3m. 

[Big Picture]

7 minutes ago, bobbruce said:

I don’t see how with dispensations the top SL clubs will be spending about £2.5m on on salaries. Add to that whatever part of the marquee signings that doesn’t count towards the cap you could easily be close to £3m. 

Those will only apply to a handful of players at the few clubs which can afford to pay out that much.  With half (or more) of the SL clubs spending less than the full cap the SL average will still be much lower than the RU Premiership average even with those dispensations figured in.

[Tommygilf]

1 hour ago, Big Picture said:

Those will only apply to a handful of players at the few clubs which can afford to pay out that much.  With half (or more) of the SL clubs spending less than the full cap the SL average will still be much lower than the RU Premiership average even with those dispensations figured in.

Leeds, Wire, Catalans, Wigan, Saints, Hull and Huddersfield will certainly be spending up to cap as they have marquee players. Cas won't be far off and even with the funding discrepancy I doubt Leigh will be miles away either (though on less good players given the difficulty recruiting for the championship). KR very much depends on which way the wind is blowing it would seem.

Only Salford and Wakefield are openly and consistently way below cap - not half or more of the league.