tms Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Featherstone Rovers winger Ben Blackmore will face an RFL tribunal over a potentially racist comment he posted on Facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeymagic22 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Brainless if this is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardypaul Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Saw this a few weeks ago on main forum there was a copy of the tweet he made and unfortunately it doesn’t look great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haskey Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 At least we can use Hardcastle when this idiot is banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 They'll be wringing of hands at some other sheeite next week. I suspect Ben has learned a lesson re using social media.... when taking the pizz out of his mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Taylor Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 2008 RFL Wakefield & District Young Volunteer of the Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Taylor Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 https://secure.rugby-league.com/ign_docs/blackmoreverdict.pdf 2008 RFL Wakefield & District Young Volunteer of the Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 If you're going to take the pizz out of your mate, don't do it on social media without engaging brain first ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
distantdog Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 35 minutes ago, Robin Evans said: If you're going to take the pizz out of your mate, don't do it on social media without engaging brain first ffs. This! And then don't come up with a stupid reason to try and excuse it. He should have help up his hands, apologised to RW, just admitted he was stupid and hope then for leniency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrtbps Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, distantdog said: This! And then don't come up with a stupid reason to try and excuse it. He should have help up his hands, apologised to RW, just admitted he was stupid and hope then for leniency. My bet is the ban would've been a lot less if he'd simply accepted he'd done it and then apologised. FEATHERSTONE ROVERS, A GENERATIONAL LOVE AFFAIR, AND THE CALL OF HISTORY A SECOND TIME AROUND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
distantdog Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 minute ago, hrtbps said: My bet is the ban would've been a lot less if he'd simply accepted he'd done it and then apologised. Agree, it is made fairly clear in the judgement that they considered his defence to be pathetic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeymagic22 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 That's the problem in society these, very few people will admit they are wrong and apologise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Bates Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Couldn't have done anything other than they have, given the pathetic defence and the lack of remorse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haskey Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Might be as well getting shut if it is not going to cost us too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobLambert Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 9 hours ago, Michael Bates said: Couldn't have done anything other than they have, given the pathetic defence and the lack of remorse. Why - has a precedent been set in the past for a similar offence ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Horseman Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 11 hours ago, RobLambert said: Why - has a precedent been set in the past for a similar offence ? There was an incident last year which was referred to in the Blackmore tribunal minutes. Halifax's Ed Barber tweeted last year "All these places which are back in lockdown, what are they full of?". His tweet was immediately questioned or called out by a number of players, almost all of whom were black/mixed race. Jermaine McGilvray, Jason Robinson, Omari Caro, Alex Rowe, and Jordan Andrade all commented on it. Barber deleted the tweet, then tweeted again apologising and saying "I implied that people were been ignorant and not adhering to lock down rules!" Barber was asked to explain his remark by the RFL and subsequently fined £1,000, with £750 of it suspended", having founf the tweet "to have contained Unacceptable Behaviour and Language, which by implication targeted individuals or groups on the grounds of ethnic origin and/or religion." It's clear that his reponse to his tweet was what led to this apparently lenient punishment...the Tribunal noted that such offences were “very serious and would not be tolerated”. However it gave the Player credit for his admissions and the fact that he had “taken voluntary steps to seek help, to educate himself with regard to Equality Inclusion and Diversity and his expressed intention to continue in that undertaking in the future”. The differences cited by the Tribunal between this case and Blackmore's included: Blackmore's involved a specific individual who said he was affected by the comments. Blackmore was stated not to have apologised or shown remorse. The RFL had at the start of 2021sent out an educational programme to all players which included a module about inclusion, diversity and social media which Blackmore had not completed at the time of the tweet. In reference to the Ed Barber case, the Tribunal stated that it "does not set any sentencing precedent. In any event it was a generalised victimless offence which was not particularly comparable to this current case and about which few details were available." (FWIW I'd disagree about the last bit btw, it only took me 2 minutes to find all the details mentioned here about that case). I think the comments in this thread about not admitting that he was wrong being a major factor in the severity of the sentence are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobLambert Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 So the upshot of that nearest comparison was 10 matches compared to 0 matches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
distantdog Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 1 hour ago, RobLambert said: So the upshot of that nearest comparison was 10 matches compared to 0 matches I don't think Barber's case is a good comparison, but I think Clubb's could be. And they dealt with the differences between that. Going back to BB, why didn't he show a bit of remorse and apologise. I would have expected if he had, he would have had a reduced punishment. Surely the thing is that he wrote something that was construed as racist by the victim, and failed to apologise and show any remorse and tried to cover it up by claiming ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Horseman Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 1 hour ago, RobLambert said: So the upshot of that nearest comparison was 10 matches compared to 0 matches That's one way of looking at it. Personally, I thought Barber was fortunate to get off as lightly as he did, but clearly his remorse and apology counted for a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobLambert Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 Must remember to apologise next time I'm nicked. So Clubb got 8 matches for a direct racist insult to an opponent (not sure what that was) Different sport but more high profille.....Last year Casilla the Leeds keeper got 8 matches for saying the worst of all racist insults (Blackmore's indirect insult was not in the same ball park - most people wouldnt know what it literally meant) Despite Casilla's insult being corroborated by other players he never admitted to it or apologised. Just saying..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, RobLambert said: Must remember to apologise next time I'm nicked. So Clubb got 8 matches for a direct racist insult to an opponent (not sure what that was) Different sport but more high profille.....Last year Casilla the Leeds keeper got 8 matches for saying the worst of all racist insults (Blackmore's indirect insult was not in the same ball park - most people wouldnt know what it literally meant) Despite Casilla's insult being corroborated by other players he never admitted to it or apologised. Just saying..... Best thing overall would have been for Blackmore to stay away from posting sheeite on twitter..... Daft as a f'ing brush. Then this conversation wouldn't be happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squidward Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 Its all a bit of a shame for him personally and for the club. A fans favourite and someone to lift spirits in the squad with his infectious personality. But he's only himself to blame. A victim of his own stupidity at the time and then throughout the proceedings by how he conducted his 'defence and also a victim of the World we currently live in. I do have some sympathy but I'm really sticking my head above the parapet to even whisper such an opinion these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobLambert Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Robin Evans said: Best thing overall would have been for Blackmore to stay away from posting sheeite on twitter..... Daft as a f'ing brush. Then this conversation wouldn't be happening. Totally agree with that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
distantdog Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 1 hour ago, RobLambert said: Must remember to apologise next time I'm nicked. So Clubb got 8 matches for a direct racist insult to an opponent (not sure what that was) Different sport but more high profille.....Last year Casilla the Leeds keeper got 8 matches for saying the worst of all racist insults (Blackmore's indirect insult was not in the same ball park - most people wouldnt know what it literally meant) Despite Casilla's insult being corroborated by other players he never admitted to it or apologised. Just saying..... And is despised by Leeds supporters who would happily have him out of the club. I would have been happy if Casilla was banned for life, and am embarrassed every time he plays for Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk-eye Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Squidward said: Its all a bit of a shame for him personally and for the club. A fans favourite and someone to lift spirits in the squad with his infectious personality. But he's only himself to blame. A victim of his own stupidity at the time and then throughout the proceedings by how he conducted his 'defence and also a victim of the World we currently live in. I do have some sympathy but I'm really sticking my head above the parapet to even whisper such an opinion these days. How is he a victim? Would you prefer to live in a world where his remarks are acceptable? Would you be comfortable to express your opinion to Rob's face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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