The storm Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 18 hours ago, MZH said: No it was much worse than that. We pay about £700,000 a year to use the stadium, which in a normal year works out about £50k per game. But last year we still had to pay the £700k despite only playing 5 home games, and I think only 3 of those had fans. Huge hit for the club to take during what was already a really difficult time. I think Pearson is now looking very seriously at trying to raise the funds to build our own ground. Whether that will ultimately be feasible or not I aren't sure. But it sounds like that's the route he wants to go down. Hull Fc could get a stadium for about 12 million It's not rocket science With conferencing and weddings and other events they would be able to increase revenue by about a million a year When I got married at widnes vikings a few years ago the bar takings were enormous None of that profit went to widnes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullman Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 2 hours ago, M j M said: My understanding is Pearson and the council negotiated something which sort of assumed good faith on all sides. Naive maybe but they didn't factor in the soccer club being controlled by a set of ....s. Not far off I reckon. "I'm from a fishing family. Trawlermen are like pirates with biscuits." - Lucy Beaumont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullman Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 18 hours ago, Smudger06 said: They could build a stadium on a man made island in the Humber directly adjacent to the mouth of the river Hull. Share the stadium in the spirit of AC & Inter at the San Siro The Deep beat us to Sammy's Point. "I'm from a fishing family. Trawlermen are like pirates with biscuits." - Lucy Beaumont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 4 hours ago, Faithful1865 said: You've not met the Allams then!! True, I've avoided that opportunity. You could get some big and powerful Sue, Grabbit and Runne legal brains for £2 million, say. Carter Ruck, Mishcon de Reyer, Hudgell Solicitors.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hull Kingston Bronco Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Ullman said: The Deep beat us to Sammy's Point. Yeah that would’ve been an ideal site - on the East side of the river! Apparently this site says I "won the day" here on 23rd Jan, 19th Jan, 9th Jan also 13th December, whatever any of that means. Anyway, 4 times in a few weeks? The forum must be going to the dogs - you people need to seriously up your game. Where's Dutoni when you need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldofclothofgold Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 So in hindsight was it a mistake to leave The Boulevard? Soon we will be dancing the fandangoFROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB HAS DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESSTHEN i DONT KNOW WHAT IS.JAMIE PEACOCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKR AWAY DAYS Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 On 18/05/2021 at 18:35, Eddie said: Share with KR I'd rather jump off a bridge. Pearson has been pleading poverty for a couple of years. There will be no new stadium. It is all noise to drive the rent down. Hull will be at the KC for decades... losing hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meast Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 On 18/05/2021 at 20:00, Lowdesert said: There were never complaints about the toilets there ! There were never any toilets were there? Huddersfield Giants Supporters Association Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yipyee Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 On 18/05/2021 at 18:10, GUBRATS said: A question , do they have 20 million down the back of the sofa ? They could merge with KR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voteronniegibbs Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 24 minutes ago, yipyee said: They could merge with KR But would they then be called KFC ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullman Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 17 hours ago, Hull Kingston Bronco said: Yeah that would’ve been an ideal site - on the East side of the river! I think of it more as no man's land "I'm from a fishing family. Trawlermen are like pirates with biscuits." - Lucy Beaumont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullman Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 15 hours ago, HKR AWAY DAYS said: I'd rather jump off a bridge. Pearson has been pleading poverty for a couple of years. There will be no new stadium. It is all noise to drive the rent down. Hull will be at the KC for decades... losing hopefully That was my take on it too but I'm not so sure now. Just a feeling but I think the club might genuinely be exploring other options. "I'm from a fishing family. Trawlermen are like pirates with biscuits." - Lucy Beaumont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZH Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 16 hours ago, fieldofclothofgold said: So in hindsight was it a mistake to leave The Boulevard? No definitely not. The Boulevard was decrepit. I loved the old place but there was no future there. It needed huge investment. The KCOM has been very good for us for nearly 20 years now, we just need to solve this problem with the Allams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullman Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 36 minutes ago, MZH said: No definitely not. The Boulevard was decrepit. I loved the old place but there was no future there. It needed huge investment. The KCOM has been very good for us for nearly 20 years now, we just need to solve this problem with the Allams. I can almost hear Tony Soprano saying it. "I'm from a fishing family. Trawlermen are like pirates with biscuits." - Lucy Beaumont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Halfpenny fan Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Why do the Allams seem to have such a big influence over the goings on at the stadium? Who actually owns the KCOM? Just because you think everyone hates you doesn't mean they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 hour ago, MZH said: No definitely not. The Boulevard was decrepit. I loved the old place but there was no future there. It needed huge investment. The KCOM has been very good for us for nearly 20 years now, we just need to solve this problem with the Allams. Didn’t West Hull use the ground after FC moved out,seem to recall us playing them and not being able to kick to touch due to the state of the roof on one of the stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 On 19/05/2021 at 12:53, MZH said: No it's not that. The £700,000 per year is fine in normal circumstances. It was just mentioned as an example of how unreasonable the SMC have become when they still insist that needs to be paid in full despite barely any games being played there. Besides, the bigger problem is that agreements are being broken left right and centre to the detriment of Hull FC. The Allams are being completely unreasonable and petty over what are very minor things in a lot of cases. It's been going on for years and I think Hull FC are at the end of their tether with it now. These agreements weren't contractual then? I thought that Pearson was a businessman. Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super major Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I would not be averse to a new ground shared with wovers but with all the work going on at ncp I can't see it. Hull left the boulevard and used what money the raised to clear of some debts. Not much was left The board at the time didn't want to get invoved in the running of the stadium and negotiated a user agreement which was beneficial up to a gate of around 7000. After that level it started to cost money as around half of any gate over that was to be used to pay the management company. TBF at the time we were having a bit of sucess but not drawing much more than that at Boulevard No one wants to take on the Allams as the council havent got the money or the will for another fight and the Allams just do as they like such as shutting footbridges into the ground as a so called anti terrorist measure even though the ground is in a park! They have also moved community groups using the site of this community stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 hour ago, super major said: I would not be averse to a new ground shared with wovers but with all the work going on at ncp I can't see it. Hull left the boulevard and used what money the raised to clear of some debts. Not much was left The board at the time didn't want to get invoved in the running of the stadium and negotiated a user agreement which was beneficial up to a gate of around 7000. After that level it started to cost money as around half of any gate over that was to be used to pay the management company. TBF at the time we were having a bit of sucess but not drawing much more than that at Boulevard No one wants to take on the Allams as the council havent got the money or the will for another fight and the Allams just do as they like such as shutting footbridges into the ground as a so called anti terrorist measure even though the ground is in a park! They have also moved community groups using the site of this community stadium. It depends how nasty this situation gets. We’ve already seen what a few thousand supporters can do in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKR AWAY DAYS Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Ullman said: That was my take on it too but I'm not so sure now. Just a feeling but I think the club might genuinely be exploring other options. Always keep options open but tangibly there aren't any. Just get rid of the Allams, a scorn on the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullman Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 hour ago, HKR AWAY DAYS said: Always keep options open but tangibly there aren't any. Just get rid of the Allams, a scorn on the city. Too right. "I'm from a fishing family. Trawlermen are like pirates with biscuits." - Lucy Beaumont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJW Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 17 hours ago, Lowdesert said: It depends how nasty this situation gets. We’ve already seen what a few thousand supporters can do in football. Previous protests by Hull City supporters seem to have had little effect on the Allams so doubt they'd lose sleep over protesting FC fans! My wife complains I selfishly stop her fulfilling her true ambition - she really wants to be a rich widow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super major Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 4 hours ago, BJW said: Previous protests by Hull City supporters seem to have had little effect on the Allams so doubt they'd lose sleep over protesting FC fans! I think they just love the protests. Ever since they got turned down to have a name change they have thrown their toys out.They wanted the name Hull erased from their club because of a fall out withe council The issue they have with the council is that the council wouldn't gift them the stadium to finance developing the site and surrounding area which the allams also do not own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 6 hours ago, BJW said: Previous protests by Hull City supporters seem to have had little effect on the Allams so doubt they'd lose sleep over protesting FC fans! Previous protests by Manchester United fans, as well as others, has had a decidedly large effect in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 47 minutes ago, Lowdesert said: Previous protests by Manchester United fans, as well as others, has had a decidedly large effect in football. The impact on the behaviour of the Glazers has been slight even though the fans have protested since day one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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