The Daddy Posted August 7, 2021 Author Share Posted August 7, 2021 Nice to see Romain Franco, Joe Chan, Corentin Le Cam, Cesar Rouge and Hugo Pezet all make their pro debuts recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Is Albert at TO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audois Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 He signed for TO months ago and then picked up an injury before playing there. He was though with the TO group in their weekend training camp up in the mountains before the Fev game. Hopfully he will get some games in before the seasons end. "It involves matters much greater than drafting the new rules...the original and existing games have their own powerful appeal to their players and public and have the sentiments which history inspires" - Harold 'Jersey' Flegg 1933 "Just as we had been Cathars, we were treizistes, men apart." - Jean Roque, Calendrier-revue du Racing-Club Albigeois, 1958-1959 Si tu( Remi Casty) devais envoyer un fax au Président Guasch? " Un grand bravo pour ce que vous avez fait,et merci de m 'avoir embarqué dans cette aventure" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Daddy Posted September 7, 2021 Author Share Posted September 7, 2021 Corentin Rey who was on my list has signed for Catalan Dragons from Avignon. That's another player from Avignon off the conveyor belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Toppy Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 12 hours ago, The Daddy said: Corentin Rey who was on my list has signed for Catalan Dragons from Avignon. That's another player from Avignon off the conveyor belt I'm sure he'll enjoy playing Reserve Grade rugby for most of his career as he's kept out of the Catalans side by a Brit or an Antipodean St.Helens - The Home of record breaking Rugby Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLANTISMAN Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 17 minutes ago, Saint Toppy said: I'm sure he'll enjoy playing Reserve Grade rugby for most of his career as he's kept out of the Catalans side by a Brit or an Antipodean I think you will find that there will be more and more French players over the next few years in SL ST:) My prediction stands in that in 5/10 years the Dragons who have made a success of it with the burden of being in one of the poorest areas in France and Toulouse will be powerhouses in Rugby League. There are only 6 teams currently in SL that I can see being sustainable and Saints will certainly benefit long term by being in a stronger league. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Toppy Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 52 minutes ago, ATLANTISMAN said: I think you will find that there will be more and more French players over the next few years in SL ST:) We keep hearing this but were 15 years in with Catalans now and on Saturday they had a whopping 4 French players in the starting 13 and just 5 in total in the 17. St.Helens - The Home of record breaking Rugby Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2010 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 15 hours ago, The Daddy said: Corentin Rey who was on my list has signed for Catalan Dragons from Avignon. That's another player from Avignon off the conveyor belt Is it time for Avignon to step up to the Championship? They seem to have the pathways in place and could probably generate crowds and commercial income Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnyia Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Saint Toppy said: I'm sure he'll enjoy playing Reserve Grade rugby for most of his career as he's kept out of the Catalans side by a Brit or an Antipodean He'll be playing at the same level as he was with Avignon so it won't make that much of a difference to him, except he'll gat pro coaching and be able to train with and against the super League team, as they are the opposition during the week for the dragons. He can only get better doing that, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audois Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 21 appearances this season in Super League so far from the 6 apprentices viz. Le Cam (3), Cozza (2), Joe Chan (6), Franco (2), Rouge (1) and Laguerre (7). Ground breaking here anyway. "It involves matters much greater than drafting the new rules...the original and existing games have their own powerful appeal to their players and public and have the sentiments which history inspires" - Harold 'Jersey' Flegg 1933 "Just as we had been Cathars, we were treizistes, men apart." - Jean Roque, Calendrier-revue du Racing-Club Albigeois, 1958-1959 Si tu( Remi Casty) devais envoyer un fax au Président Guasch? " Un grand bravo pour ce que vous avez fait,et merci de m 'avoir embarqué dans cette aventure" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, audois said: 21 appearances this season in Super League so far from the 6 apprentices viz. Le Cam, Cozza, Joe Chan, Franco, Rouge and Laguerre. Ground breaking here anyway. A real positive for the club,let’s hope they kick on & become first team regulars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 I think this is why getting Toulouse into Super League is so important for me. Doubling the pathways and opportunites for the increasing amounts of quality French youngsters can only be good for the game. It has huge benefits for the game in France, for the international side and also Super League as a larger player pool increases quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audois Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Add on Mourgue who turned out for the reserves this past season. His debut with Dragons was 2019 but really blossomed this year with 19 appearances so far. "It involves matters much greater than drafting the new rules...the original and existing games have their own powerful appeal to their players and public and have the sentiments which history inspires" - Harold 'Jersey' Flegg 1933 "Just as we had been Cathars, we were treizistes, men apart." - Jean Roque, Calendrier-revue du Racing-Club Albigeois, 1958-1959 Si tu( Remi Casty) devais envoyer un fax au Président Guasch? " Un grand bravo pour ce que vous avez fait,et merci de m 'avoir embarqué dans cette aventure" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnyia Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Dezaria also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audois Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Dezaria was with the first academy intake along with the likes of Yaha and De Costa. He played 4 SL games for the Dragons back in 2016 before going off to Leigh and TO in his travels. He's a great example of a bloke maturing later. "It involves matters much greater than drafting the new rules...the original and existing games have their own powerful appeal to their players and public and have the sentiments which history inspires" - Harold 'Jersey' Flegg 1933 "Just as we had been Cathars, we were treizistes, men apart." - Jean Roque, Calendrier-revue du Racing-Club Albigeois, 1958-1959 Si tu( Remi Casty) devais envoyer un fax au Président Guasch? " Un grand bravo pour ce que vous avez fait,et merci de m 'avoir embarqué dans cette aventure" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTK Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 14 of the 21 man squad are french this week. Youngsters Florian Vailhen, Tiaki Chan and Robin Brochon in the squad for the first time this season. Currently sitting at 17 french players having turned out for the first team so far this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Frisky Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 On 08/09/2021 at 09:54, Saint Toppy said: We keep hearing this but were 15 years in with Catalans now and on Saturday they had a whopping 4 French players in the starting 13 and just 5 in total in the 17. So you have watched 1 Cats game this season..... dont let facts get in the way of your negativity lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Toppy Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr Frisky said: So you have watched 1 Cats game this season..... dont let facts get in the way of your negativity lad. Your ignoring the real fact which is when they have a fully fit squad to choose from the French lads barely get a look in. French players are and always have been with Catalans, seen a squad fillers, they almost always elect to bring in overseas players as their first choice. I can understand at the start of their SL existence they had little choice but after 15 years that's still their preferred way of doing things. Which goes against their main argument for being parachuted into SL in the first place and the reason I disagree with having them in SL. Have they brought through large numbers of French players and strengthened their national team - No Have they brought in a bumper French TV deal & French sponsors for SL - No Do they bring large away fans to games - No (quite the opposite its embarrassing having Catalans away games on TV with a completely empty away fans end). St.Helens - The Home of record breaking Rugby Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Daddy Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 Robin Brochon, Florian Valihen and Tiaki Chan have been included in the 21 man squad to face Huddersfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Frisky Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Saint Toppy said: Your ignoring the real fact which is when they have a fully fit squad to choose from the French lads barely get a look in. French players are and always have been with Catalans, seen a squad fillers, they almost always elect to bring in overseas players as their first choice. I can understand at the start of their SL existence they had little choice but after 15 years that's still their preferred way of doing things. Which goes against their main argument for being parachuted into SL in the first place and the reason I disagree with having them in SL. Have they brought through large numbers of French players and strengthened their national team - No Have they brought in a bumper French TV deal & French sponsors for SL - No Do they bring large away fans to games - No (quite the opposite its embarrassing having Catalans away games on TV with a completely empty away fans end). Thats the point you bring in quality and the local lads learn and grow. Look at the number of exciting young players who are now playing alongside Tomkins etc - even in the NRL most teams don't have 17 Aussies they use local talent and add in Kiwis, Islanders and even Brits to get the right balance. Its taken time but we are now seeing young French players who can hold their own in the best team in SL - that's progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Toppy Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, Mr Frisky said: Thats the point you bring in quality and the local lads learn and grow. Look at the number of exciting young players who are now playing alongside Tomkins etc - even in the NRL most teams don't have 17 Aussies they use local talent and add in Kiwis, Islanders and even Brits to get the right balance. Its taken time but we are now seeing young French players who can hold their own in the best team in SL - that's progress. They learn, they grow, and when they're ready the club just goes out and buys another overseas player and they're left on the sidelines again. 15 years in and when they have their strongest squad to choose from it still only contains 4-5 French players St.Helens - The Home of record breaking Rugby Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Frisky Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 42 minutes ago, Saint Toppy said: They learn, they grow, and when they're ready the club just goes out and buys another overseas player and they're left on the sidelines again. 15 years in and when they have their strongest squad to choose from it still only contains 4-5 French players With some of the best young French players ever about to start coming through. Are you just upset because French teams have won the top 2 leagues?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Daddy Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 51 minutes ago, Saint Toppy said: They learn, they grow, and when they're ready the club just goes out and buys another overseas player and they're left on the sidelines again. 15 years in and when they have their strongest squad to choose from it still only contains 4-5 French players English clubs have been doing the same for years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 53 minutes ago, Saint Toppy said: They learn, they grow, and when they're ready the club just goes out and buys another overseas player and they're left on the sidelines again. 15 years in and when they have their strongest squad to choose from it still only contains 4-5 French players Like many other SL clubs then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Toppy Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 42 minutes ago, Mr Frisky said: 1 - With some of the best young French players ever about to start coming through. 2 - Are you just upset because French teams have won the top 2 leagues?? 1 - Been hearing that for the last 15 years, and even when one does come through they still just buy an overseas player and leave the french lads as back-up players. 2 - They haven't, neither team are champions of their respective leagues St.Helens - The Home of record breaking Rugby Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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