Sat 5 Jun: CCSF: Hull FC v St Helens KO 14:30 (TV)

[Cheshire Setter]

2 minutes ago, Rob Nash said:

It was unsportsmanlike and gives ammo against the game but let's discuss that once the game has finished.

Fair enough, but then we need clearly defined criterion as to what is and isn’t sportsmanship. It’s subjective, and us fans aren’t qualified to define it.

[doc]

Second half now. Let's see how Hull react. 

[Padge]

Just now, DavidM said:

What if a player gets terrible cramp and screams in pain and throws the ball away ? Fages can’t diagnose an injury can he , the ball is there and he picks it up , the ball is live 

Players know when something is serious, you often see them, the opposition, call to the ref to stop play.

[Wellsy4HullFC]

In a sport where we talk about looking after our players, for Fages to run over and score then celebrate is just poor.

I think it's a poor day for the sport when football is talked about as being more sporting than rugby league.

[Cheshire Setter]

I also can’t believe I’m arguing on the side of Saints.   This is new ground for me! 

[The Hallucinating Goose]

The ball was live and in play and no, Fages can't diagnose an injury and obviously he is in the moment and didn't break any rules by scoring but I think it's interesting how every other player on the field could see what had happened and stopped playing. A number of Saints players quickly went over to Griffin to see if he was okay. Fages did not have to put the ball down. 

[Cheshire Setter]

This isn’t good for Hull’s season, now Connor.

[Harry Stottle]

Lots of bad blood going off the first half, hopefully we can have an old fashioned game second half.

[Wellsy4HullFC]

This argument about throwing the ball away for any of injury... what's the advantage to doing it on the first tackle?

 

[Rob Nash]

Just now, Cheshire Setter said:

Fair enough, but then we need clearly defined criterion as what is and isn’t sportsmanship. It’s subjective, and us fans aren’t qualified to define it.

Honestly I don't think there is a rule anymore on that. Does "ungentlemanly conduct" still exist within the rules of the game? Right thing would have been to have allowed 6 for Hull and we wouldn't be discussing this.

[Futtocks]

Looks like Connor came off pretty badly in that collision. If he can't play on, HFC could be in serious trouble.

[JohnM]

I've had enough of this rubbish. I've turned it off.

[graveyard johnny]

this is utter garbage yet again - what the hell has happened to our game?

[Padge]

5 minutes ago, Rob Nash said:

Honestly I don't think there is a rule anymore on that. Does "ungentlemanly conduct" still exist within the rules of the game? Right thing would have been to have allowed 6 for Hull and we wouldn't be discussing this.

It still exists, and is a penalty offence.

MISCONDUCT

Definition of misconduct 1. A player is guilty of misconduct if he:

(i) behaves in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game.

[DavidM]

4 minutes ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

The ball was live and in play and no, Fages can't diagnose an injury and obviously he is in the moment and didn't break any rules by scoring but I think it's interesting how every other player on the field could see what had happened and stopped playing. A number of Saints players quickly went over to Griffin to see if he was okay. Fages did not have to put the ball down. 

Do you think a vast majority of players , and ex players , when that ball falls at their feet near the line is automatically picking it up and scoring ?

[Dunedan]

2 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said:

this is utter garbage yet again - what the hell has happened to our game?

Is it? I'm quite enjoying it.

[Rob Nash]

1 minute ago, Padge said:

It still exists, and is a penalty offence.

Ok. That being said, is it specifically defined?

[snapski]

35 minutes ago, Wollo Wollo Wayoo said:

Trying to think of something to do till the other semi now.  Game over here.

The way we are playing i will be thinking the same 20 minutes into the second game.

[The Hallucinating Goose]

2 minutes ago, DavidM said:

Do you think a vast majority of players , and ex players , when that ball falls at their feet near the line is automatically picking it up and scoring ?

No, I think they would put the ball out of play and immediately go buy the injured player a get well soon card and a big box of chocolates. 

[Padge]

1 minute ago, Rob Nash said:

Ok. That being said, is it specifically defined?

 

3 minutes ago, Padge said:

It still exists, and is a penalty offence.

MISCONDUCT

Definition of misconduct 1. A player is guilty of misconduct if he:

(i) behaves in any way contrary to the true spirit of the game.

 

[Wellsy4HullFC]

Rugby League is ruthless they say.

So if Griffin had dropped to the ground holding the ball clutching his foot, surely then it's fair game to strip the ball from him too as he's not tackled?

[GeordieSaint]

Great finish by Welsby.

[DavidM]

Just now, The Hallucinating Goose said:

No, I think they would put the ball out of play and immediately go buy the injured player a get well soon card and a big box of chocolates. 

This should be in the laws of the game immediately 

[dkw]

Excellent finish that.

[Futtocks]

Meanwhile, back at the actual game, St Helens have scored and converted - Hull FC 2:20 St Helens.