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The Blues Ox Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 These lads not fancying the chances of Fev getting in SL? You would think if theres that much interest they could just sign a new contract at Fev with SL money but a get out if they were not to win promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversspud Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 These lads are being offered SL now. If they do what Oxy says the offer may not then be on the table from SL, as those clubs may have done most of their shopping by then. I don't blame these players for doing what they're doing, it just makes it much, much harder for Championship clubs if and when they make it to SL. "Out of the way,son. Where's my medal?" Alex Murphy's immortal words as David Hobbs scores his 2nd try in the '83 Cup Final! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tms Posted July 4, 2021 Author Share Posted July 4, 2021 1 hour ago, The Blues Ox said: These lads not fancying the chances of Fev getting in SL? You would think if theres that much interest they could just sign a new contract at Fev with SL money but a get out if they were not to win promotion. TBO bottom line is it doesn't really matter what a player thinks of FEV's chances of getting into SL if your are offered a copper-bottomed SL contract half way through a season you have to take it but having said I'm sure ALL the FEV players think they are good enough to beat TO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 On the positive side, great news for folk who don't support Fev. "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 In any walk of life it is better to expierence something than to reject it, there are thousands and thousands who have sat back years after the event and said to themselves "What If" why did I not do that when I was offered the chance. Frankie Halton is right to accept the opportunity, he has proven himself a very capable Championship player, if it doesn't work out for him at HKR he can always return, if he doesn't give it a go he may just regret it in future years in a "What If" moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tms Posted July 4, 2021 Author Share Posted July 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: In any walk of life it is better to expierence something than to reject it, there are thousands and thousands who have sat back years after the event and said to themselves "What If" why did I not do that when I was offered the chance. Frankie Halton is right to accept the opportunity, he has proven himself a very capable Championship player, if it doesn't work out for him at HKR he can always return, if he doesn't give it a go he may just regret it in future years in a "What If" moment. All true H when we signed him stories came out about him starting off at leigh but that he fell out of love with the game and walked away a mate got him to play with leigh miners signed for swinton then FEV The best thing about this story H is he has only played 34 games in the championship and only 11 at FEV in a top team but his performances this year have got him a SL contract I wonder where would Frankie be now if he hadn't supposedly lost his love of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashmon Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 This is what happens when you build a squad which can compete in SL, but then you either don't make into SL or you get relegated (even if its the best season by a relegated club ever)... When we (London) got relegated in 2019 our squad was decimated with all our best players pinched by SL teams. You saw the shambles of what London was left with yesterday. No offence but our 2018 / 2019 team would have beaten Fev easily yesterday. Unless you are a Toronto type owner who will pay 3 times SL salaries to keep the best players in the Championship, your best players are going to go to the established SL teams considering RL is a dying sport with an ever shrinking pool of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 37 minutes ago, crashmon said: This is what happens when you build a squad which can compete in SL, but then you either don't make into SL or you get relegated (even if its the best season by a relegated club ever)... When we (London) got relegated in 2019 our squad was decimated with all our best players pinched by SL teams. You saw the shambles of what London was left with yesterday. No offence but our 2018 / 2019 team would have beaten Fev easily yesterday. Unless you are a Toronto type owner who will pay 3 times SL salaries to keep the best players in the Championship, your best players are going to go to the established SL teams considering RL is a dying sport with an ever shrinking pool of players. I very much doubt your 2018 team would have won, never mind easily, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said: I very much doubt your 2018 team would have won, never mind easily, tbh. I was considering chirping up with something similar.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashmon Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 our 2019 team was pretty much our 2018 team with maybe one or two extra players. So our 2018 team won 10 SL games pretty much in 2019 Lets see if next Season if Fev get promoted (and I think you will), you guys win 10 SL games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 53 minutes ago, crashmon said: our 2019 team was pretty much our 2018 team with maybe one or two extra players. So our 2018 team won 10 SL games pretty much in 2019 Lets see if next Season if Fev get promoted (and I think you will), you guys win 10 SL games Fev's 2018 team finished 1 point behind London in the league so with a few additions maybe they'd have done just as well in SL as London in 2019..........and I can assure you Fev's 2018 team isn't as good as this season's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Another Leigh academy product in SL, very disappointed our recruitment ignores these lads, Holroyd at Workington is another I rate- one game for us scores and never seen again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevrover Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Harry Stottle said: In any walk of life it is better to expierence something than to reject it, there are thousands and thousands who have sat back years after the event and said to themselves "What If" why did I not do that when I was offered the chance. Frankie Halton is right to accept the opportunity, he has proven himself a very capable Championship player, if it doesn't work out for him at HKR he can always return, if he doesn't give it a go he may just regret it in future years in a "What If" moment. Very well put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevrover Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 1 hour ago, crashmon said: our 2019 team was pretty much our 2018 team with maybe one or two extra players. So our 2018 team won 10 SL games pretty much in 2019 Lets see if next Season if Fev get promoted (and I think you will), you guys win 10 SL games We won't get promoted the RL will see to that,they want Toulouse up and don't want 3 teams from WMDC in SL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said: Another Leigh academy product in SL, very disappointed our recruitment ignores these lads, Holroyd at Workington is another I rate- one game for us scores and never seen again Watched both of them at Crosfields. Glad they’re doing well, like you surprised Leigh let them go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevrover Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 3 hours ago, crashmon said: our 2019 team was pretty much our 2018 team with maybe one or two extra players. So our 2018 team won 10 SL games pretty much in 2019 Lets see if next Season if Fev get promoted (and I think you will), you guys win 10 SL games Not all SL teams win 10 games never mind Fev IF they go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashmon Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Whoever wins the champ GF will go up, and that is likely IMHO to be FEV. I was not having a go at Fev at all this year, but the London team of today are light years away from our 2018 / 2019 squad. Its like comparing Chelsea with Barnet. I still expect Tolouse to potentially get up as well, I would lay odds on at least one if not two SL teams goin bankrupt in next 2 years. As for us (London). If we still are around as a team in 2022 I will see that as a success. I think we complete the season, but after that I have grave concerns on the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 2 hours ago, POR said: All true H when we signed him stories came out about him starting off at leigh but that he fell out of love with the game and walked away a mate got him to play with leigh miners signed for swinton then FEV The best thing about this story H is he has only played 34 games in the championship and only 11 at FEV in a top team but his performances this year have got him a SL contract I wonder where would Frankie be now if he hadn't supposedly lost his love of the game Maybe his time out, and reconsideration, was part of what made him the person and player he is today. Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Taylor Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 54 minutes ago, ShropshireBull said: Or you could put both up and everyone will be happy. 4 more full houses in UK and two more in France. For me this is the perfect opportunity to really re-asses Super League, the tv deal and say we'll start to grow the league and hope they'll increase the spend for each year. I'd get SL up to 16 teams without relegation over the next four years, giving everybody the chance to start planning for the future. No excuses there-after. Bradford, Featherstone, Halifax, Newcastle, Toulouse Widnes & York could be in with a shot. The game needs a fresh spark. 2008 RFL Wakefield & District Young Volunteer of the Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashmon Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Chris Taylor said: For me this is the perfect opportunity to really re-asses Super League, the tv deal and say we'll start to grow the league and hope they'll increase the spend for each year. I'd get SL up to 16 teams without relegation over the next four years, giving everybody the chance to start planning for the future. No excuses there-after. Bradford, Featherstone, Halifax, Newcastle, Toulouse Widnes & York could be in with a shot. The game needs a fresh spark. Not enough Money in the game for 16 teams in a full time Super League, and not enough of a talented player pool. You would need to go back to PT for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 45 minutes ago, crashmon said: Not enough Money in the game for 16 teams in a full time Super League, and not enough of a talented player pool. You would need to go back to PT for that In life if you want or need something you worked harder to afford it. Nothing is impossible, in RL if it’s not given on a plate with minimum effort then it’s impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Taylor Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 44 minutes ago, crashmon said: Not enough Money in the game for 16 teams in a full time Super League, and not enough of a talented player pool. You would need to go back to PT for that I genuinely disagree about the lack of money, I think there's most certainly enough to go round. In regards player pool, this is why I was suggesting that a team wouldn't go down until there was 16 teams. It gives teams the chance to: a) build youth infastructures b) give them an opportunity. Anway - just my thoughts. It'll never happen. It'll only decrease in number of teams. 2008 RFL Wakefield & District Young Volunteer of the Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardypaul Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 58 minutes ago, crashmon said: Not enough Money in the game for 16 teams in a full time Super League, and not enough of a talented player pool. You would need to go back to PT for that As one London fan said it is the quality of players not whether they are full time that matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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