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Sat 17 Jul: Challenge Cup Final: Castleford Tigers v St Helens KO 15:00 (BBC TV)


Who will win?  

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  1. 1. Who will win?

    • Castleford Tigers by 13 points or more
      1
    • Castleford Tigers by 7 to 12 points
      4
    • Castleford Tigers by 1 to 6 points
      12
    • St Helens by 1 to 6 points
      3
    • St Helens by 7 to 12 points
      16
    • St Helens by 13 points or more
      36

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Half time - I don't know about the rest of you, but I need a lie-down!

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Hectic stuff.  Saints glad of that half time hooter I'll bet but they need to get up off that knee for the 2nd half. 

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Thoroughly enjoying this as a game. It demonstrates just why we need the BBC to get these out rather than behind the paywall of Sky. I don't mind Sky providing the bulk of the money and the core of the league game, but these cup games on free-to-view can't be beaten.

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1 minute ago, Roy Haggerty said:

It would require a huge turnaround of skill by Saints to come back in this. They are totally dominated at the moment, and have given no indication that they have any attack beyond 5 drives and a kick. 

Your only 6 points behind 😂

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Just now, Roy Haggerty said:

It would require a huge turnaround of skill by Saints to come back in this. They are totally dominated at the moment, and have given no indication that they have any attack beyond 5 drives and a kick. 

I feel the opposite. I think Half-time came too soon for Cas and they’ll lose momentum now Saints have a chance to regather. A lot will depend on who scores first. If Saints do they’ll run away with it IMO, whereas if Cas score first they’ll squeeze a narrow victory.

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1 minute ago, Roy Haggerty said:

It would require a huge turnaround of skill by Saints to come back in this. They are totally dominated at the moment, and have given no indication that they have any attack beyond 5 drives and a kick. 

Cas helped them by giving earlier errors.  But from the moment they got their first try they kept on the front foot and Saints then dropped the ball and off sides.

Saints will play out wide more in the 2nd.

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1 minute ago, Cheshire Setter said:

I feel the opposite. I think Half-time came too soon for Cas and they’ll lose momentum now Saints have a chance to regather. A lot will depend on who scores first. If Saints do they’ll run away with it IMO, whereas if Cas score first they’ll squeeze a narrow victory.

It certainly saved Saints from conceding what would probably be the match-winning try. 
 

But Saints’ attack is not good. Our wins have been based on dominant defence, territory and taking and holding leads. Scoring against good defences, and coming from behind are not features of Saints this year. 

 

Im struggling to see Saints getting two scores. This performance is reminding me of the scoreless loss to Warrington. 

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I would still pick Saints in this. They have the personnel to get a roll on.

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