The Rocket Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, DI Keith Fowler said: It's something that I keep coming back to. In Europe we've staged a much bigger and logistically complex international tournament with no cancelled games and very, very few positive cases. Where there's a will there's a way. That`s pretty impressive given I imagine the size of the entourage that some of the soccer teams entail. These are the sort of facts that Andrew Hill, who has been employed by the WC organisers down here, will be explaining to the clubs, I hope they are listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 minute ago, The Rocket said: That`s pretty impressive given I imagine the size of the entourage that some of the soccer teams entail. These are the sort of facts that Andrew Hill, who has been employed by the WC organisers down here, will be explaining to the clubs, I hope they are listening. Andrew Hill is the last person who should be appointed to sell this to clubs. He was inept as 2017 WC CEO and has driven the Bulldogs off a cliff in recent years. Isn't Peter V'landys the Chair of the ARLC and not the NRL? The Kangaroos are representatives of the ARLC - he hasn't said a word of support for the WC (or even mentioned it in public). Given that he is vocal on everything else why isn't he standing up for his brand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 25 minutes ago, Scubby said: If Australia don't go they are also denying their elite women players and wheelchair players the opportunity of a lifetime. Of course, they wouldn't send the women and not the men would they? I mean, they are all international athletes! I hope the Women & Wheelchair teams will come over and really show up the Mens team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rocket Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, Scubby said: Andrew Hill is the last person who should be appointed to sell this to clubs. He was inept as 2017 WC CEO and has driven the Bulldogs off a cliff in recent years. Isn't Peter V'landys the Chair of the ARLC and not the NRL? The Kangaroos are representatives of the ARLC - he hasn't said a word of support for the WC (or even mentioned it in public). Given that he is vocal on everything else why isn't he standing up for his brand? Well that`s not a good sign because he sure has been given the job. And I`ll admit I`ve read nothing about V`landy`s talking up the Kangaroos, but he had plenty to say about why they mightn`t go to the WC today. If I had to have a guess at this and it`s only a guess, the Club CEO`s can make or break a CEO, they could probably run him out of the job if they wanted to, V`landy`s may well be pandering to them given that in mind, I know they relaxed the rules last year on how soon ex-club administrators can come into the ARLC, more power to the clubs. It would be a disaster for the game down here if PVL walked or was pushed, the drips that are lining up for his jobs would be a retrograde step, not only for Oz but for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 46 minutes ago, Southerner said: Having said that I think Aus will put out a team. It just might be a gesture rather than a strong selection. I just don't understand this. A gesture team has as much chance of catching covid as their strong selection Australia will want to win, they certainly won't be happy with just sending a token team. Neither will the players if they aren't given the opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 23 minutes ago, Spidey said: I hope the Women & Wheelchair teams will come over and really show up the Mens team Honestly, the RLPA are kicking off because they have an agreement with clubs to give players 6 weeks holiday in the of-season. Yet, the players from Italy and England have just finished an 11-month season and will start the Premier League on August 13. This is supposed to be the pinnacle of the game for the world's elite players not some HR exercise. Some players lose form and get injured, they may only get one chance at a WC. They will literally be back before the end of November and the first NRL game is 3.5 months away from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Damien said: I just don't understand this. A gesture team has as much chance of catching covid as their strong selection Australia will want to win, they certainly won't be happy with just sending a token team. Neither will the players if they aren't given the opportunity. Would prove its nothing to do with covid, but more to do with NRL pre-season games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Scubby said: Honestly, the RLPA are kicking off because they have an agreement with clubs to give players 6 weeks holiday in the of-season. Yet, the players from Italy and England have just finished an 11-month season and will start on August 13. This is supposed to be the pinnacle of the game for the world's players not some HR exercise. Some players lose form and get injured, they may only get one chance at a WC. If it means that much just shift the NRL season along following a World Cup - it's not rocket science I'm really repeating myself, Covid is a convenient excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I’ve said this before on here, play it if necessary without the Aussies, the winners should be LOUDLY proclaimed as world champions and if the Aussies want to challenge the world champions tell them that their offer will be “considered” "Freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice, socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality" - Mikhail Bakunin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Phil said: I’ve said this before on here, play it if necessary without the Aussies, the winners should be LOUDLY proclaimed as world champions and if the Aussies want to challenge the world champions tell them that their offer will be “considered” The pathetic part is Phil, 80-90% of the NRL players participating will be playing for other countries. The RLPA and ARLC has no control over these guys it is the likes of the NZRL, PNG RL and IRL by-laws that outrank them. They will only have control over 25 players max - and even some of those players could switch countries if Australia don't go (how ironic is that?). It is basically gesturing of the most shameful kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southerner Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Damien said: I just don't understand this. A gesture team has as much chance of catching covid as their strong selection Australia will want to win, they certainly won't be happy with just sending a token team. Neither will the players if they aren't given the opportunity. A token team will still have a good chance of winning…. And if they don’t then covid will be the excuse. No lose for the Aussies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southerner Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, Phil said: I’ve said this before on here, play it if necessary without the Aussies, the winners should be LOUDLY proclaimed as world champions and if the Aussies want to challenge the world champions tell them that their offer will be “considered” There’d always be an asterisk against the winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshmagpie Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I’m friends with a potential Welsh cap on Facebook, who’s part of an NRL club. I asked his thoughts… I’ve kept him anonymous for obvious reasons but it’s so pleasing to see his reaction and I’m sure many, many others feel the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 You'll find that's the attitude of most players. Its the pencil pushers who have the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Is there a deadline for the Aussies to make up there minds on whether they are attending? The country replacing them would need to know well in advance to be able to prepare for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rocket Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 30 minutes ago, welshmagpie said: I’m friends with a potential Welsh cap on Facebook, who’s part of an NRL club. I asked his thoughts… I’ve kept him anonymous for obvious reasons but it’s so pleasing to see his reaction and I’m sure many, many others feel the same. It`s funny you say that, It reminds me of Jason Ryles, Saint George and Australian prop, Roy Masters once described him as a " schooner drinker " our equivalent of your pint I imagine, no half-measures for Rylesy. When he got picked for the first time for Oz, 9/11 occurred and there was talk a tour to England would have to be cancelled, when asked whether he was worried about flying to Europe Rylesy said " I don`t care where we play them, I`ll play them in Afghanistan if I have to". I was a big fan of his before that remark, and bigger after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DI Keith Fowler Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Rocket said: It`s funny you say that, It reminds me of Jason Ryles, Saint George and Australian prop, Roy Masters once described him as a " schooner drinker " our equivalent of your pint I imagine, no half-measures for Rylesy. When he got picked for the first time for Oz, 9/11 occurred and there was talk a tour to England would have to be cancelled, when asked whether he was worried about flying to Europe Rylesy said " I don`t care where we play them, I`ll play them in Afghanistan if I have to". I was a big fan of his before that remark, and bigger after. Just 3/4 measures I guess. I was born to run a club like this. Number 1, I do not spook easily, and those who think I do, are wasting their time, with their surprise attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Ram Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 5 hours ago, THE RED ROOSTER said: Within the next two hours you can all snap up the tickets that are left I already have mine at a cost of £ 333.00 (7 matches) But I am booking accomodation and train tickets that are refundable and my advice to all of you, take or leave it, is to do the same. Love the way posters are pointing the finger at one country on here when in reality it is one League , the NRL who are unhappy with this decision and the NRL supplies players to all the competing teams - Including England... A tournament without the majority of NRL players will lack integrity. Just sorted my hotel in Jesmond (Newcastle) for the opening weekend, just trains to sort for Newcastle & London, bring it on!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLANTISMAN Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 We have to 100% get behind it, I am so bloody excited this along with a potential World Cup in France in 2025 hope I dont have a heart attack in the meantime:( Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I think that the tournament really needs to go ahead, what with the football world cup coming next year. However, I'm afraid that I don't share the opinion of those who don't care if a whole swathe of the best Australian players are missing due to Covid. Inevitably if that happens, it will get a lot of attention in the media and the casual viewer who may or may not get into watching the tournament could well be less likely to bother if they perceive that the tournament is de-valued. Personally I hope that the best available players from all countries are involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Southerner said: There’d always be an asterisk against the winner. No there wouldn’t. Just like previous “boycotts” of world tournaments no asterisks will be used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLANTISMAN Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Hello said: I think that the tournament really needs to go ahead, what with the football world cup coming next year. However, I'm afraid that I don't share the opinion of those who don't care if a whole swathe of the best Australian players are missing due to Covid. Inevitably if that happens, it will get a lot of attention in the media and the casual viewer who may or may not get into watching the tournament could well be less likely to bother if they perceive that the tournament is de-valued. Personally I hope that the best available players from all countries are involved. I personally think that the players will be there and stuff the men in suits. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 It can sound like some of us don't want the Roos to attend but it's more about the attitude than the team, players or the results. 2 minutes ago, ATLANTISMAN said: and stuff the men in suits. Well yes but they may be the ones making the decisions. 2 warning points Non-Political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 hour ago, ATLANTISMAN said: I personally think that the players will be there and stuff the men in suits. Paul I think that there's a fair chance you're right - let's hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshmagpie Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 A good insight into the logistics and measures in place https://postcourier.com.pg/kumuls-and-orchids-plan-for-world-cup-pushed-forward-tsaka/ All Southern Hemisphere teams on a chartered flight from Sydney (Oct 14-15). PNG’s extended squad announced soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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