graveyard johnny Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 9 hours ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: All the star players aren’t going to come, some players will make their own individual decision not to take part in this World Cup, it would be crazy not to watch the World Cup because of that. i meant i will go without watching nrl mate 1 did the bloke who invented the phrase "one hit wonder" invent anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 I see that Tonga have been confirmed as England RU's first opponents of the autumn internationals at Twickenham on the 6th of November, before hosting Australia and South Africa on successive weekends. Yet another sport that seems like it can navigate the challenges facing participating nations from either side of the world. I would have far more respect for many of the NRL clubs if they just came out and said they didn't want to bother with a World Cup rather than playing to this safety and logistics nonsense. It would be self serving and ridiculously short sighted but at least it would be honest. 3 "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dunbar said: I see that Tonga have been confirmed as England RU's first opponents of the autumn internationals at Twickenham on the 6th of November, before hosting Australia and South Africa on successive weekends. Yet another sport that seems like it can navigate the challenges facing participating nations from either side of the world. I would have far more respect for many of the NRL clubs if they just came out and said they didn't want to bother with a World Cup rather than playing to this safety and logistics nonsense. It would be self serving and ridiculously short sighted but at least it would be honest. RU don’t prioritise club friendlies over internationals. The NRL do 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fighting irish Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Spidey said: Spoilsport Who was the troll? Forewarned is forearmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RP London Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 19 minutes ago, Dunbar said: I see that Tonga have been confirmed as England RU's first opponents of the autumn internationals at Twickenham on the 6th of November, before hosting Australia and South Africa on successive weekends. Yet another sport that seems like it can navigate the challenges facing participating nations from either side of the world. I would have far more respect for many of the NRL clubs if they just came out and said they didn't want to bother with a World Cup rather than playing to this safety and logistics nonsense. It would be self serving and ridiculously short sighted but at least it would be honest. totally agree.. every reason they have given so far can be argued against with proof of other people managing to overcome those issues.. it is all about will and the Aussie RL team seem to have none. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Since the last World Cup final Australia have a 50% win record. They’re not all that anyway 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Ram Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 The Aussies could take a look at last summer & wasn't it Pakistan who came over to play a test against England, yet the Aussies are supposed to be tough nation sorry the way your RL boys are acting more like Sheila's. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShropshireBull Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 58 minutes ago, Spidey said: RU don’t prioritise club friendlies over internationals. The NRL do Yep that´s what makes it shameful. Players won´t be back until a month before the season starts . So instead of being in 4 pre season games they are in 1... cry me a river. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Frisky Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 7 hours ago, Gerrumonside ref said: It’ll be mentioned in every broadcast and media report in the U.K. on the RL World Cup if Australia don’t come. Yes to make them a laughing stock - especially if their Olympic team and even their RU teams go abroad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Hopefully Big Mal will take a leading role here . He’s a noted internationalist so if he speaks to players individually that could hold some sway . I’m sure he’d want to come and take his strongest squad , and selfishly id really like to see that backline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Picture Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) As Open Rugby's 1997 history of Mike Mayer's USRL showed, the Aussies have always wanted to rule the RL roost so their attitude toward the World Cup going ahead shouldn't surprise anyone. Edited July 20, 2021 by Big Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 9 hours ago, Gerrumonside ref said: It’ll be mentioned in every broadcast and media report in the U.K. on the RL World Cup if Australia don’t come. And? Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrumonside ref Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 38 minutes ago, gingerjon said: And? Some people are under the illusion I feel that this situation with Australia will just be forgotten by the media if they don’t come. That it’ll be touched upon briefly and that’ll be that. I feel that’s not being very realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henson Park Old Firm Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 so when do we find out? this is getting ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said: Some people are under the illusion I feel that this situation with Australia will just be forgotten by the media if they don’t come. That it’ll be touched upon briefly and that’ll be that. I feel that’s not being very realistic. Rugby league is not football. Nobody will care. 1 Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrumonside ref Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Just now, gingerjon said: Rugby league is not football. Nobody will care. A story is a story. Australia not coming will follow the publicity around the tournament like a bad smell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, ShropshireBull said: Yep that´s what makes it shameful. Players won´t be back until a month before the season starts . So instead of being in 4 pre season games they are in 1... cry me a river. The answer is simple, just put the NRL season back 2 weeks or more next season, they have plenty of time to do that. They always take the year off internationals following a World Cup anyhow so pushing it back should make no difference at all. As with every problem the NRL create there are simple solutions but the NRL just aren't interested in them. They just want to create obstacles. Edited July 20, 2021 by Damien 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShropshireBull Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Damien said: The answer is simple, just put the NRL season back 2 weeks or more next season, they have plenty of time to do that. They always take the year off internationals following anyhow so pushing it back should make no difference at all. As with every problem the NRL create there are simple solutions but the NRL just aren't interested in them. They just want to create obstacles. If the NRL continue like this I hope people in UK bin off watching them at the very least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsontown Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Given the situation with the Olympics in Tokyo, an event that very few people in Japan want to happen, I'm somewhat worried that this is a fiasco in waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 hours ago, DavidM said: Hopefully Big Mal will take a leading role here . He’s a noted internationalist so if he speaks to players individually that could hold some sway . I’m sure he’d want to come and take his strongest squad , and selfishly id really like to see that backline He also wants Samoa's half back and winger plus Fiji's hooker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 23 minutes ago, ShropshireBull said: If the NRL continue like this I hope people in UK bin off watching them at the very least. This is why the whole situation is so frustrating for me. I love the NRL and, if I am honest, I enjoy watching it more than Super League these days. But I love international League more... if the NRL clubs damage the World Cup when all other world sports are moving heaven and earth to continue their international calendar I will be torn. But I will end up not watching the NRL I think. 1 "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Dunbar said: This is why the whole situation is so frustrating for me. I love the NRL and, if I am honest, I enjoy watching it more than Super League these days. But I love international League more... if the NRL clubs damage the World Cup when all other world sports are moving heaven and earth to continue their international calendar I will be torn. But I will end up not watching the NRL I think. This is exactly how I feel too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tub Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 On skimming the thread I feel like a bit of an outlier on this one but I understand why the Aussies aren't coming, the covid situation is far different over there with very low vaccination rates to what we have here , the clubs are relocating on mass to SE Queensland and with quarantine rules any touring party on return would have any hardly any time before the start of the next season. And it's not just the Aussies all the Kiwis and Pacific Islanders play NRL. Covid's exploding here and trying to shoe horn a WC in amongst all that doesn't make sense especially when a lot of the touring players and staff may not be vaccinated. Listened to the IRLB CEO on Dave Woods BBC podcast last week and he sounded like a man way out of his depth (reminded me of Rimmer!) , spouting a load of rhetoric , lacking leadership and with no real answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnoco Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 hour ago, gingerjon said: Rugby league is not football. Nobody will care. That’s hardly setting the bar very high. As the saying goes…integrity is shown when nobody is looking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Dane Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 7 hours ago, Spidey said: RU don’t prioritise club friendlies over internationals. The NRL do RU also makes significantly more from internationals and have much less to lose from missing club games as a result. As long as the risk isn’t worth the return clubs are going to be reluctant to participate in internationals that impact on their season, and can you really blame them, they are businesses after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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