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18 minutes ago, Davo5 said:

Says it all really 

https://bit.ly/3A62ZfD

Nail . Head . Hit .

COVID my arris . The only role COVID has played here is as a smokescreen for their real intentions , quite shamefully . Gus gets a free pass because most influential people will agree with him . They need calling out like this excellent article 

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33 minutes ago, Northern Eel said:

Brilliant article. 

Phil Gould. The man makes me sick.

Indeed, it spells everything out too.  The game needs a counterweight to the NRL in the northern hemisphere, but unfortunately with the game in England and France so much poorer and weaker than down under SL can't provide that.

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26 minutes ago, DavidM said:

Nail . Head . Hit .

COVID my arris . The only role COVID has played here is as a smokescreen for their real intentions , quite shamefully . Gus gets a free pass because most influential people will agree with him . They need calling out like this excellent article 

One comical aspect to this whole affair, is Gould's responses to outraged and suspicious tweets confirm the tweeters worst suspicions/fears.

The big mouthed oaf just can't resist banging on, so much so, that he's given their game away.

Shame on Australia (NRL/ARLC), shame on New Zealand (NZRL). 

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39 minutes ago, Sports Prophet said:

That is complete garbage. I just cannot fathom how poor a suggestion this is.

It's because it isn't a real international plan. It is a plan that suppresses the international game to allow the NRL and Origin to carry on doing their thing. 

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4 hours ago, rlno1 said:

Shane Richardson's plan for international league, part of his recent report. He is a News Corp stooge and they are now partners of the NRL and looking to control the game.

I see every 4th year is a lay off for all players, instead of a World Cup maybe?????????

 

 

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He couldn’t get to 7 coz he ran out of room on his fag packet 

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1 hour ago, gingerjon said:

Yes, that gets it all across.

Who to?

What kind of readership do they have, do you know?

I'm just concerned that this outrage has been perpetrated against our own game, (from within) and Australia and New Zealand are oblivious of it.

Even RaRa couldn't accomplish a blow of this magnitude. 

But it looks as if they are going to get away with it Ging'.

Treason. 

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With St James Park booked plus Kingston Park why don't they play England v France on the 23rd plus keep the Scotland v Italy game on the 24th try and salvage something from this diabolic mess sure all 4 teams would like to play a game. Could have a Ireland v Wales at one of the stadiums already booked Keepmoat or Leigh Sports it would give the teams a chance of a game if others interested something could be arranged ?

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8 hours ago, Hela Wigmen said:

Hopefully there’s not too much hassle with the rearranging of the tournament in terms of dates, venues and the like. 

As for what happens internationally in the northern hemisphere, there should be games. There should be every year, mind, so that’s not a big statement to make. I do fear though that the apathy towards the game and the crowds we’ve seen since the return of fans combined could mean we see relatively poor crowds if there are games. 

Excuse me since crowds allowed you talk has thou its been months not about a week since grounds open to about 100%.

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9 hours ago, JM2010 said:

I hope the RFL and IRL are contacting Wales, Scotland, Ireland, France, Jamaica, USA, Canada and Nigeria and organising tests and possibly tournament so at least there is some International RL at the end of this year. I cant decide what would be best for England though

Why not the stadiums are booked.

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7 hours ago, Man of Kent said:

So, anyway, perhaps RFL could organise a mini-comp - maybe a couple of Oceania Cup-style round robins consisting of World Cup nations, eg England, France, Wales, Jamaica, Ireland, Scotland?

If it's too late organise such a thing, perhaps an England vs. France 'triple-header' - men, women and wheelchair? 

I always say the phrase 'four nations' resonated with the public..... A rare case of us nicking some shine from union..... People understand it as a concept due to the 6 nation's. No reason why we can't have a 5 or 6 nation's...... One of the few times I've seen RL chalked up outside pubs in Luton was for the 4 nations

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4 hours ago, Big Picture said:

Indeed, it spells everything out too.  The game needs a counterweight to the NRL in the northern hemisphere, but unfortunately with the game in England and France so much poorer and weaker than down under SL can't provide that.

That ultimately is the crux of the problem, and until the imbalance is addressed then Aussie apathy will continue. This article during the 2017 RLWC highlights just that:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/nov/13/rugby-league-world-cup-has-been-snubbed-in-nrl-obsessed-australia

“The NRL might be a multi-billion dollar business that attracts attention, huge sponsors and column inches across most of the country, but international rugby league is a different kettle of fish.”

The author of the piece John Davidson (great on Forty20 podcasts) then goes on to call his fellow Aussies “insular”, which I think is head in the sand nonsense. It doesn’t address the issue. Just completely ignores why Aussies may think like they do. He goes on to write about the 2013 RLWC success where it made a whopping £4 million, and in doing so he unintentionally answered Aussie apathy. From a multi billion dollar league, to a tournament that that makes peanuts, and one that has offered next to no competition for a nation that has won every tournament bar one for the past 50 years.

If you offer no incentive, whether it be sporting, or financial, you get apathy. Apathy is 100% understandable. You wouldn’t be human to think otherwise.

I wonder in addition to apathy are Aussies in some way embarrassed about the game outside Aus, because it doesn’t reflect well on the sport. The NRL is (as Davidson says) a multi billion dollar industry, big time in Aus, and having the same product that makes peanuts elsewhere could damage the brand there. Could explain why Channel Nine have refused to show the RLWC on free to air. Aussies playing Ireland at the 2013 RLWC with just 5k spectators rattling round a 30k seater stadium in Limerick. Think they played at Wrexham with a similar crowd. It’s a damaging look for the game in Australia, so hiding it avoids this. One Aussie newspaper article did mention the Limerick game and said it was degrading for Aussie players to play in such surroundings. Showing (or promoting) these games in Australia would counteract the promotional work the Aussie media does to build up the sport there. From an England perspective it has everything to gain from a RLWC, but from an Aussie perspective they have a lot to lose.

 

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The previous page had an excellent article, which looks on the money. What it doesn’t draw out is that it’s actually even worse than that, as the NRL/ARL could have done this at any time at all over the last 10 years.
 

The reality is that the money and the power has resided with them for a long long time. Given that not only are they masters of their own fate they control the media which reports on them, they could have made half a dozen phone calls at any point in time and achieved the same goal without detonating the work of hundreds of true leaguies around the world. 
 

if it was ignorance, that would be inexcusable, if it was contempt (to borrow John’s word) then that would show them for the sorts of people they are, but this deliberately malicious destruction of the hopes and dreams of the rest of the international community must surely be without precedent in any sport at any time. Until this year, what France went through was the lowest point for our game. But that was a different sport, seeking to destroy a competitor… here it’s the Red Wedding. 

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25 minutes ago, Exiled Wiganer said:

this deliberately malicious destruction of the hopes and dreams of the rest of the international community must surely be without precedent in any sport at any time. Until this year, what France went through was the lowest point for our game. But that was a different sport, seeking to destroy a competitor… here it’s the Red Wedding. 

give that man a coconut

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Just to emphasise what a selfish calamitous decision by the NRL, proof that the people in this country really get behind International tournaments held here, Women's Football Euro 2022 is going to break attendance records.* RL here definitely gets more bums on seats than Women's football,  though perhaps that'll  change. Personally I think the tournament should go ahead without Aus and NZ.

BTW Italy failed to qualify for Russia 2018 WC , and if they fail to qualify for Qatar along with Germany, Brazil, Netherlands or whatever it'll still go ahead and be meaningful.  Aus and NZ not participating in RLWC is their problem not anyone else's. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58088999

* Leigh will host matches , so apply for your tickets early Harry Stottle......maybe not!!

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28 minutes ago, HawkMan said:

Just to emphasise what a selfish calamitous decision by the NRL, proof that the people in this country really get behind International tournaments held here, Women's Football Euro 2022 is going to break attendance records. RL here definitely gets more bums on seats than Women's football,  though perhaps that'll  change. Personally I think the tournament should go ahead without Aus and NZ.

BTW Italy failed to qualify for Russia 2018 WC , and if they fail to qualify for Qatar along with Germany, Brazil, Netherlands or whatever it'll still go ahead and be meaningful.  Aus and NZ not participating in RLWC is their problem not anyone else's. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58088999

The Australia and NZ teams were used as proxy however by the NRL.

They were shocked when the likes of Fiji, Tonga, Samoa, Lebanon, PNG and the Cook Islands, amongst others, did not immediately follow suit. It demonstrates the sheer arrogance of these people that they believe Aus and NZ can beckon these other nations to heel without even explicitly telling them - or perhaps the NRL forgot they exist altogether?

They then started intimidating their employees, the players, over playing for the national governing bodies they hadn't used as a front.

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ni·hil·ism

  (nī′ə-lĭz′əm, nē′-)

n.
Philosophy The doctrine that  values are meaningless.
 Relentless negativity or cynicism suggesting an absence of values.
Psychiatry A delusion, experienced in some mental disorders, that the world does not exist.
 
THE NRL = The Nihilistic Rugby League 
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Absolutely disgusted they have called it off, all because the Aussies don't want to disrupt a few pre-season friendlies.

 

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