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5 hours ago, glemiln said:

For those with dual-code rugby interests there will be a clash of our World Cup quarter, semi and final games with Union’s Autumn Internationals.

Our 19/11 final at 16.00  is close to Union’s England v New Zealand at 17.30 with Italy v Australia 20.00

The media coverage will be interesting.

 

The comparisons between the two games on display will be even more interesting.

I suspect a lot of union fans will be flicking over during the multiple breaks in play in their game to have a look at the League action and be thinking `if only`. An observation that is commonplace amongst union fans over here.

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With regard to winning margins, some have wondered about blow out scores. How does 2021 compare with all the other WC's? Well, wonder no more. Here is a list of all the WCs, the number of teams, the average winning margin and points per game. 2021 is after two rounds. 

Years # Av Pts
T WM PG
1954 4 11 33
1957 4 15 34
1960 4 11 26
1968 4 17 32
1970 4 10 29
1972 4 12 34
1975 5 14 32
1977 4 12 34
1985-88 5 25 43
1989-92 5 22 40
1995 10 28 48
2000 16 33 54
2008 10 24 48
2013 14 23 43
2017 14 29 45
2021 16 36 53
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5 hours ago, RayCee said:

With regard to winning margins, some have wondered about blow out scores. How does 2021 compare with all the other WC's? Well, wonder no more. Here is a list of all the WCs, the number of teams, the average winning margin and points per game. 2021 is after two rounds. 

Years # Av Pts
T WM PG
1954 4 11 33
1957 4 15 34
1960 4 11 26
1968 4 17 32
1970 4 10 29
1972 4 12 34
1975 5 14 32
1977 4 12 34
1985-88 5 25 43
1989-92 5 22 40
1995 10 28 48
2000 16 33 54
2008 10 24 48
2013 14 23 43
2017 14 29 45
2021 16 36 53

Its no surprise really. The game has been speeded up and speeded up, with things like the 6 again and shot clock, and the action is constant.

There are very few ways to slow things down in modern RL or ways in which you can play a different way, e.g play defensive as in Football or rely on a set piece like RU.

What makes RL so appealing also makes it damn tough to play.

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6 hours ago, RayCee said:

With regard to winning margins, some have wondered about blow out scores. How does 2021 compare with all the other WC's? Well, wonder no more. Here is a list of all the WCs, the number of teams, the average winning margin and points per game. 2021 is after two rounds. 

Years # Av Pts
T WM PG
1954 4 11 33
1957 4 15 34
1960 4 11 26
1968 4 17 32
1970 4 10 29
1972 4 12 34
1975 5 14 32
1977 4 12 34
1985-88 5 25 43
1989-92 5 22 40
1995 10 28 48
2000 16 33 54
2008 10 24 48
2013 14 23 43
2017 14 29 45
2021 16 36 53

If you were to take out the 4 margins of the two new teamsto the WC in Jamaica and Greece the average margin is 30pts similar to 2017.

Also excluding the huge 84-0 blowout the average for the 11 matches is 26pts.

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3 minutes ago, rlno1 said:

If you were to take out the 4 margins of the two new teams to the WC in Jamaica and Greece the average margin is 30pts similar to 2017. Also if you take out the 84-0 the average for the 11 matches is 26pts.

Take a few more scores out and you will get to the answer you would like to have😊

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5 hours ago, RayCee said:

With regard to winning margins, some have wondered about blow out scores. How does 2021 compare with all the other WC's? Well, wonder no more. Here is a list of all the WCs, the number of teams, the average winning margin and points per game. 2021 is after two rounds. 

Years # Av Pts
T WM PG
1954 4 11 33
1957 4 15 34
1960 4 11 26
1968 4 17 32
1970 4 10 29
1972 4 12 34
1975 5 14 32
1977 4 12 34
1985-88 5 25 43
1989-92 5 22 40
1995 10 28 48
2000 16 33 54
2008 10 24 48
2013 14 23 43
2017 14 29 45
2021 16 36 53

The more teams you have then the wider the range of quality. No surprise that the widest margins are with the tournaments with highest number of clubs.

The format of this tournament also encourages bigger margins. The previous 3 WC have had 1 or 2 super groups and a couple of weaker groups. This means more games against similar quality teams. Personally I prefer that format but I was definitely in the minority when they announced the change for this tournament which is fair enough and definitely understandable for a variety of reasons. Though you do end up with wider margins.

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You'd think that the winning margin won't charge much during the 3rd group games but I'd expect it to come down during the knock out stages when the teams are more evenly matched. Be interesting to see what it is at the end of the tournament. 

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48 minutes ago, glossop saint said:

The more teams you have then the wider the range of quality. No surprise that the widest margins are with the tournaments with highest number of clubs.

The format of this tournament also encourages bigger margins. The previous 3 WC have had 1 or 2 super groups and a couple of weaker groups. This means more games against similar quality teams. Personally I prefer that format but I was definitely in the minority when they announced the change for this tournament which is fair enough and definitely understandable for a variety of reasons. Though you do end up with wider margins.

Yes, I think that's a fair analysis, and I think if a few blowouts is the price to pay for expanding participation and having a more straightforwardly recognisable format, then I'm ok with that.

I don't think these results are harming the tournament, or the sport, in the eyes of the wider public as some claim. People get that this sometimes happens. 

I'd be more worried if the semis and final are blowouts. 

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22 minutes ago, Toby Chopra said:

Yes, I think that's a fair analysis, and I think if a few blowouts is the price to pay for expanding participation and having a more straightforwardly recognisable format, then I'm ok with that.

I don't think these results are harming the tournament, or the sport, in the eyes of the wider public as some claim. People get that this sometimes happens. 

I'd be more worried if the semis and final are blowouts. 

I don’t think they are at all. The fans in attendance appear to have a great time marvelling at some of the skills of our top players and all but one game so far has actually been enjoyable (Scot vs Aus) despite some heavy score lines. That latter point is it’s been clear every team have been busting themselves hard through effort and determination hence why the likes of the Greeks and Jamaicans have gone down well. This has been a good start to the tournament on the pitch. 

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4 hours ago, Damien said:

Its no surprise really. The game has been speeded up and speeded up, with things like the 6 again and shot clock, and the action is constant.

There are very few ways to slow things down in modern RL or ways in which you can play a different way, e.g play defensive as in Football or rely on a set piece like RU.

What makes RL so appealing also makes it damn tough to play.

Agreed. We are also playing on top quality, full size (or near full size) pitches and enjoying very favourable weather for the time of year, none of which really help underdogs.

I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.

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