Les Tonks Sidestep Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 28 minutes ago, paff said: No i understand that,but i always think the result should be on the pitch, what do Dewsbury get out of the cancelled game this week , why dont the full time team come over for the week and play us and Dewsbury its been good chatting pal and clearly you know your stuff But its not just covid killing the game the RFL have their hands round the neck Dewsbury get a null result. Currently they are on a win% of 34.62, should they have travelled to Toulouse and (quite probably) lost that would drop to 32.1%. Travelling from France to the UK currently necessitates a 10 day isolation and from the UK to France, if not fully vaccinated, 7 days. It would seem that the Championship is now not considered an elite sport to gain an exemption from these rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, RobLambert said: Are part time players with jobs outside of the game in a position to make that choice irrespective of what the club is allowed / wants to do. FT teams are in an entirely different position which is why London had to forfeit. We're comparing apples with pears. It is for this reason that the RFL put the protocols in place to not penalise part time clubs if they choose not to travel and play in France. Please note that for example the club could compensate players having to isolate rather than work, etc. Not a good choice, but still a choice. FWIW I believe we made the right choice (no brainier). Is it an advantage (which is what we are debating) - yes it is. I'm sure I'll think of something funny to say soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, The Grinder said: It is for this reason that the RFL put the protocols in place to not penalise part time clubs if they choose not to travel and play in France. Please note that for example the club could compensate players having to isolate rather than work, etc. Not a good choice, but still a choice. FWIW I believe we made the right choice (no brainier). Is it an advantage (which is what we are debating) - yes it is. It's not just about the Club compensating players, empolyers, whilst often sympathetic to players, need to be considered too. it's not long ago that Ben Blackmore gave up his job to travel for a game abroad with Sheffield (Totonto IIRC) as his employer wouldn't give him the time off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobLambert Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 26 minutes ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said: It's not just about the Club compensating players, empolyers, whilst often sympathetic to players, need to be considered too. it's not long ago that Ben Blackmore gave up his job to travel for a game abroad with Sheffield (Totonto IIRC) as his employer wouldn't give him the time off Yep. Was just thinking that. Believe it or not..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolie Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 12 hours ago, The Phantom Horseman said: the rules as they stand now. That indicates your expecting the goal posts to move This is rugby league we're talking about, not some well run juggernaut that does logic or sense Games on its backside from top to bottom, no strategy, no goals, no direction, the house of cards could collapse at anytime... Nothing surprises me when the game fails, how can a so called global game be global without international rugby league.. RFL, super league whoever is running the game has got it to a <<oops I tried to get around the swear filter and failed>> poor state of affairs. And things my friend will only get worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Horseman Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 20 minutes ago, coolie said: That indicates your expecting the goal posts to move No, I just used the phrase "the rules as they stand now" because you seemed not to understand them. It was you who was talking about the rules changing. 20 minutes ago, coolie said: This is rugby league we're talking about, not some well run juggernaut that does logic or sense Games on its backside from top to bottom, no strategy, no goals, no direction, the house of cards could collapse at anytime... Nothing surprises me when the game fails, how can a so called global game be global without international rugby league.. RFL, super league whoever is running the game has got it to a <<oops I tried to get around the swear filter and failed>> poor state of affairs. And things my friend will only get worse I don't disagree with any of this. The only reason I responded to your original post was because it included the incorrect phrase "If the Featherstone vs Toulouse game is cancelled Toulouse cannot reach the required number of games to qualify". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tms Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share Posted July 24, 2021 21 hours ago, The Grinder said: In relation to Fev not playing in France, Fev have got an advantage of not having to play TO over there. London haven't for example so we have gained an advantage. Had the travel restriction not still been in place Dewsbury would have had to travel there this weekend and we would have had an advantage over Dewsbury. Assuming that TO do come to Fev to play on Yorkshire day, we will have gained an advantage over TO by playing them at home and not away. Whether it was our choice or not is irrelevant, we have gained an advantage over other teams in this league. YOUR right G we'ave gained an advantage over other teams in this league. but not for missing out on our trip to La Ville Rose no championship team will play in TO this season but the advantage over other teams in this league.is down to us having a great squad of players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolie Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 On 23/07/2021 at 23:14, Les Tonks Sidestep said: should they have travelled to Toulouse and (quite probably) lost that would drop to 32.1%. Love the optimism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeb1 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 4 hours ago, coolie said: Love the optimisum Just like your spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolie Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 hours ago, georgeb1 said: Just like your spelling That's what happens when your driving, eating your kebab, on the phone and relying on predictive text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Hull KR's Tony Smith calls for Super League relegation to be suspended - Hull Live (hulldailymail.co.uk) Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardypaul Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Blind side johnny said: Hull KR's Tony Smith calls for Super League relegation to be suspended - Hull Live (hulldailymail.co.uk) I get where he’s coming from in a way but it’s difficult to argue if you have lost every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haskey Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 At least he said carry on with promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Blind side johnny said: Hull KR's Tony Smith calls for Super League relegation to be suspended - Hull Live (hulldailymail.co.uk) Again? He's a bit like a stuck record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tms Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 11 hours ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said: Again? He's a bit like a stuck record. That's true L but before he didn't want promotion but now I think there’s room for a promotion, I’d like to think there’s a way of bringing somebody in, maybe two, that could work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentoffagain2 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 13 hours ago, Blind side johnny said: Hull KR's Tony Smith calls for Super League relegation to be suspended - Hull Live (hulldailymail.co.uk) Tony Smith has always been against promotion and relegation.He dosn't get it as he thinks clubs will be stronger following the Aussie model.But for this season i agree that it would be unfair to relegate any team due to the cancelled games and fixture list.However i do think there should be promotion.Make what you can of that, i know it seems strange logic but if Toulouse were promoted they would have my blessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lingaro Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Surprising that they want another 2 when the money dries up. Extra gate receipts maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, lingaro said: Surprising that they want another 2 when the money dries up. Extra gate receipts maybe? I doubt they (the club chairmen) do. Smith isn't responsible for the finances of a club. I think he comes out with an ant-P/R statement around this time every season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lingaro Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 The cynical side of me thinks this year he wants 2 promoted to dilute the chances of Hull kr being relegated next season. I have no time for him and his own self interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooleboy Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 5 hours ago, lingaro said: The cynical side of me thinks this year he wants 2 promoted to dilute the chances of Hull kr being relegated next season. I have no time for him and his own self interests. He was all for Promotion when he was at Huddersfield in the Second Division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Looking at the latest re-structure rumours - the final throw of the dice? | LoveRugbyLeague Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Robin Evans Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Have I got this right? A draw would put us top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Horseman Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 25 minutes ago, Robin Evans said: Have I got this right? A draw would put us top? I believe you are correct. Looking at how they have derived the points percentage for those teams that have drawn games already, you work out the percentage by traditional points achieved divided by possible points. So if Toulouse draw they will have 19 points from a possible 20 and thus a points percentage of 95%. Whereas if we draw we will have 27 points from a possible 28 and a points percentage of 96.43%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevrover Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 It's so straight forward lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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