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Mon 2 AugL SL: Hull FC v St Helens KO 7.45pm (TV)


Who will win?  

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  1. 1. Who will win?

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  • Poll closed on 02/08/21 at 19:15

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4 minutes ago, jacksy said:

Hate the slo-mo stuff..makes everything look 5m late.

Sneyd's reactions to those short kicks are five minutes late in real time.

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I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.

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That idiot has cost us 14points now.

Rugby Union the only game in the world were the spectators handle the ball more than the players.

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Percival should be sitting down for that, wtf.

I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.

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Saints definitely getting the rub of the green here 

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Oh FFS. We've just seen Percival whack someone in the head and Child gives him a polite nod. One the other way and it's a yellow.

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I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.

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6 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

Well, that’s it. After 20 minutes it looked for all the world that Hull would be taking a spanking but fair play to them for sticking in there and making a game of it. 

The yellow card did for us in the end but we can take positives from how we shook off the bad start and played our way back into it.

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Think this McNamara lad needs to do a bit more work on his distribution.

I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.

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Hull FC 10:42 St Helens at the hooter.

But some signs of a spark in the home side for parts of the game.

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I haven't seen any of the previous posts in this thread so I don't know if it was ruined by the ref or if it was a dour game but....

I loved it, felt like a bit of a throwback for me, full of blood and thunder, bigs hits and good tries with skill. 

Very good game.

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1 minute ago, Dunbar said:

I haven't seen any of the previous posts in this thread so I don't know if it was ruined by the ref or if it was a dour game but....

I loved it, felt like a bit of a throwback for me, full of blood and thunder, bigs hits and good tries with skill. 

Very good game.

Agreed - great game to watch. Brutal at times.

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14 minutes ago, Just Browny said:

Oh FFS. We've just seen Percival whack someone in the head and Child gives him a polite nod. One the other way and it's a yellow.

Yep, the game was done after that, a one second late collision should never lead to a sin binning, happens every few plays because it's part of the game and without obvious malice. I switched off at that point, over zealous refereeing costing the game fans. 

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Just now, Pigeon Lofter said:

I switched off at that point, over zealous refereeing costing the game fans. 

Perhaps it would be better if the players stopped committing foul play?

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4 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

I haven't seen any of the previous posts in this thread so I don't know if it was ruined by the ref or if it was a dour game but....

I loved it, felt like a bit of a throwback for me, full of blood and thunder, bigs hits and good tries with skill. 

Very good game.

I don’t think referees win or lose games but I thought James Child was a bit inconsistent tonight 

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Well, that was frustrating.

Our discipline at times is absolutely shocking. I don't think it's as bad as the ref made it out tonight, and it's nice to see others agreeing Saints got the rub a lot, but we definitely need to sort it out. Sao must have given away at least 5 penalties for high shots.

The amount of players we're still missing though is showing in our quality of play at the mo. The youngsters we have coming through are no where near the quality of other clubs and it shows. That's the biggest concern for me.

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Impressive tonight. Thought Hull had good intensity given they played on Thursday.

What I like about us is our lack of panic. When we had a disallowed try at the end of the first half and Hull scored at the other, no frustration. When Hull upped it in the second half, no panic.

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Hull Fc tonight had what one may call lack of finesse.  It was easy to defend (ignoring the kicks). Yep big lads trundling forward can cause a bit of mayhem sometimes but any decent side will be able to continue to tackle and eventually they run out of idea's to break the defence.  Its not as if a SL team isn't able to tough it out which Saints did commendably until the energy of Hull dissipated.., it then became just stopping Hull making many yards and starting from a good position to get into Hull last 20.

OK they tried hard but wouldn't you expect that from any team.  I had them making the play off's and a dark horse to get far but will have to reconsider.

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3 minutes ago, Wellsy4HullFC said:

Well, that was frustrating.

Our discipline at times is absolutely shocking. I don't think it's as bad as the ref made it out tonight, and it's nice to see others agreeing Saints got the rub a lot, but we definitely need to sort it out. Sao must have given away at least 5 penalties for high shots.

The amount of players we're still missing though is showing in our quality of play at the mo. The youngsters we have coming through are no where near the quality of other clubs and it shows. That's the biggest concern for me.

Who was the last really good youngster we produced and successfully integrated into the first team? In any position? Not even international quality, just top SL standard.

I think you are going back to likes of Lineham, and before that even further back to Houghton and Tom Briscoe. Our record for producing youngsters is terrible. For our last really good batch you have to go back nearly 20 years when Horne, Cooke, King, Yeaman etc were all playing together at the height of their powers. We produce plenty of players, but 99% of them are totally forgettable. They play a season or 2 and then end up in the championship or leave the sport all together.

That said I do think Jack Brown has something. Another couple of years and he could develop into a very good prop. The rest of them look totally average yet again.

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5 minutes ago, redjonn said:

Hull Fc tonight had what one may call lack of finesse.  It was easy to defend (ignoring the kicks). Yep big lads trundling forward can cause a bit of mayhem sometimes but any decent side will be able to continue to tackle and eventually they run out of idea's to break the defence.  Its not as if a SL team isn't able to tough it out which Saints did commendably until the energy of Hull dissipated.., it then became just stopping Hull making many yards and starting from a good position to get into Hull last 20.

OK they tried hard but wouldn't you expect that from any team.  I had them making the play off's and a dark horse to get far but will have to reconsider.

As I alluded to early in the thread, we have seen in recent weeks by him not playing just how much ability Jake Connor has with ball in hand. He has so little around him in the way of attacking flair, and yet he manages to put tries on a plate for people time after time. Without him we look clueless in attack. 

If he had played tonight you might have seen a different story, and I definitely think he would have picked Leeds apart last week given how we dominated the first half.

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The previous two posts sum Hull FC up for me.

With a full strength team playing we're good enough to challenge if not beat most teams in the league.

With only a few missing, we're not good enough to beat any team in the league.

Struggling to see what people see in Ben McNamara.

Perhaps it's his surname.

England RU Coach Eddie Jones : "I spent a bit of time up at Hull and I like the full back there Connor, he's a tough, skilful player"

Jake Connor : "I've never played Union, it doesn't look that hard, you never say never but it looks too boring for me"

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1 hour ago, Phil said:

I don’t think referees win or lose games but I thought James Child was a bit inconsistent tonight 

Child never changes.  When is he due to retire?

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35 minutes ago, MZH said:

Who was the last really good youngster we produced and successfully integrated into the first team? In any position? Not even international quality, just top SL standard.

I think you are going back to likes of Lineham, and before that even further back to Houghton and Tom Briscoe. Our record for producing youngsters is terrible. For our last really good batch you have to go back nearly 20 years when Horne, Cooke, King, Yeaman etc were all playing together at the height of their powers. We produce plenty of players, but 99% of them are totally forgettable. They play a season or 2 and then end up in the championship or leave the sport all together.

That said I do think Jack Brown has something. Another couple of years and he could develop into a very good prop. The rest of them look totally average yet again.

It's the same conversation we had on the way home.

Jamie Shaul is the last player I can think of you break into the 13 as a regular, and he's all but been replaced by Connor now as the "running full back" is no longer a tactical choice. He broke through in 2013.

Tom Lineman broke through at a similar time, but he was a York product, not Hull.

Josh Bowden has been a mainstay for nearly a decade, but never really pushed on past good rotation prop.

Tom Briscoe did come through our academy, but not through the Hull amateur scene (Fev Lions). That was 2008.

Danny Houghton has been a mainstay for over a decade and won a Man of Steel to his credit, but still never got an international selection despite this. 2007.

The last Hull born and bred product to come through locally was Kirk Yeaman. That says it all.

Compare our production line to that of Wigan, Saints, Warrington, Leeds, Cas, even Catalans and Huddersfield. This is why we aren't competing. We have rarely successfully produced high quality youngsters that not only take a first team spot, but then kick on for international honours.

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1 hour ago, MZH said:

Who was the last really good youngster we produced and successfully integrated into the first team? In any position? Not even international quality, just top SL standard.

Reece Lynn ? 😇

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I want to see Hull now giving an opportunity to Jude Fereirra or Davy Litten, looking to the future because Mahe Fonua just isn’t performing, he looks too slow and makes too many errors.

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