daz39 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Not wanting to start a 'my dads bigger than your dad' argument but how much impact do your teams homegrown players have in your side currently? At Huddersfield our homegrown scorers this season are : Tries McGillvary 11 Jake Wardle 5 Cudjoe 4 Wood 4 Mcintosh 4 Lawrence 2 Pryce 2 Senior 1 English 1 Toal of 34 out of 63 Goals Russell 21 Pryce 5 Wardle 5 Total of 31 from 56 Total points scored by Homegrown players - 210 from 366 Indeed in our last 5 games 100 of our 120 points have been scored by home grown products, great for our club as it means we have a very bright future and some excellent young talent here but how does it compare to other clubs? Can anyone give me the corresponding stats for their club please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMEGA Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 It’s quite feasible for Huddersfield to put out a strong SL team including nothing but recent Academy graduates. Indeed if you were to include the few that have left the Giants to go elsewhere it is a very impressive achievement from a club that wasn’t renowned for producing their own talent. Jake Connor Dom Young Jake Wardle Louis Senior Darnel McIntosh Will Pryce Oliver Russel Matty English Kruise Leeming Jon Luke Kirby Sam Hewitt Sam Wood Owen Trout Innes Senior, Ronan Michael, Then there’s the senior players who’ve served the club for over a decade, McGilvery, Cudjoe, Lawrence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blues Ox Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Home grown. Over half of them are Halifax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMEGA Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, The Blues Ox said: Home grown. Over half of them are Halifax. How many of them came through Halifax’s Youth System? Young, Hewitt, Kirby, English & Trout are all Wakefield born lads but they didn’t come through any part of Wakefield’s Youth system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz39 Posted August 14, 2021 Author Share Posted August 14, 2021 28 minutes ago, The Blues Ox said: Home grown. Over half of them are Halifax. Eh? they came through the Giants academy which is what i'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blues Ox Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, daz39 said: Eh? they came through the Giants academy which is what i'm talking about. Ah right it was the homegrown that caught me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMEGA Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 3 hours ago, The Blues Ox said: Ah right it was the homegrown that caught me out. Hewitt, Trout, Kirby, English & Young are all from Wakefield Russell is from Wigan Price is from Leeds/Bradford Michael is from Ireland The Senior twins are definitely from Huddersfield So who are the ones from Halifax? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2010 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Connor, Wardle and Leeming are from Halifax. Not sure who else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz39 Posted August 15, 2021 Author Share Posted August 15, 2021 14 hours ago, The Blues Ox said: Ah right it was the homegrown that caught me out. Surely you are familiar with the phrase 'home grown talent' which relates to a player who has come through the ranks at a given club NOT the town he hails from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meast Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Expect to see the likes of Aiden McGowan, Robson Stevens, Alfie Schultz, Fenton Rodgers, Kieran Rush, possibly, Oli Peterkin, Connor Carr, and Marcus Garley added to that list in the next couple of years too! Josh Johnson, Nathan Mason, Ben Tibbs, Travis Corion, Jacob Fairbank, Greg Worthington, Jack Blagborough, Greg Johnson, Tyler Dickinson, Izaac Farrell, Matty Dawson, Mikey Wood are just a few of the names playing regularly in the professional ranks that all graduated through the Giants' systems too Huddersfield Giants Supporters Association Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakefieldCityLoyal Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 I’ve always classed homegrown as playing for you’re hometown club. Up the Trin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMEGA Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 26 minutes ago, WakefieldCityLoyal said: I’ve always classed homegrown as playing for you’re hometown club. Up the Trin So Tom Johnstone’s isn’t a home grown player at Wakefield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakefieldCityLoyal Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 23 minutes ago, OMEGA said: So Tom Johnstone’s isn’t a home grown player at Wakefield? No came through our academy, but is from Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELBOWSEYE Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Whilst it is nice to see homegrown or club trained players coming through, a successful club has a balance of homegrown /club trained and top quality signings. Thats what Wigan, Saints and Leeds have done for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELBOWSEYE Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Saint 1 said: Without looking at the stats, these ten home-grown Saints players go alright. Admittedly beyond this there's a bit of a drop-off! 1. Welsby 2. Makinson 3. Simm 4. Percival 5. Grace 6. Lomax 7. Dodd 8. Lees 9. Roby 10. Knowles Aren't these club trained not homegrown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELBOWSEYE Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Just now, Saint 1 said: Home-grown to me is academy products. I don't care what town they were born in if they started playing for Saints at u15s. No problem how you clarify them just certain posters seperated the two. Especially in the North West you can throw a blanket over wigan, leigh, saints, Warrington and Widnes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonM Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Half of Widnes' opponents in the championship this season have ex- Widnes Academy players in their squad, so I wouldn't be surprised if the net impact was negative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Dockhouse Host Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Any player is a product of all the clubs they played for. Community clubs are super important. Scholarships then develop the advanced further. Academy hopefully get them to 1st grade level. All are important. On a side note, Olly Russell played for Wigan, he is son of Richard Russell, former Wigan, Cass and Oldham. Had the fortune to be at Oldham the same time as him and he was a brilliant player and a top bloke too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz39 Posted August 15, 2021 Author Share Posted August 15, 2021 3 hours ago, ELBOWSEYE said: Whilst it is nice to see homegrown or club trained players coming through, a successful club has a balance of homegrown /club trained and top quality signings. Thats what Wigan, Saints and Leeds have done for years. That's not my point, i was meaning in the current climate and how squads/games are being affected how much do clubs currently rely on and how well are the academy products benefitting the team or not in some cases hence my original post with stats that i have asked to compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Taylor Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Let's hope Huddersfield gave a thanks to Dewsbury Moor & Matt Walker for all there hardwork in coaching Dom Young. 2008 RFL Wakefield & District Young Volunteer of the Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yipyee Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 The title of the thread is academy products, I think a few on here need to stop being so pedantic. If lads are from Wakey Halifax etc then why are these lads not playing for their academys thats the question for their clubs to answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Dockhouse Host Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, yipyee said: The title of the thread is academy products, I think a few on here need to stop being do pedantic. If lads are from Wakey Halifax etc then why are these lads not playing for their academys thats the question for their clubs to answer Because the player gets to chose which club if there are 2 or more interested. They always, usually, chose the best teams. Some don't even have academies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yipyee Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Saint 1 said: Without looking at the stats, these ten home-grown Saints players go alright. Admittedly beyond this there's a bit of a drop-off! 1. Welsby 2. Makinson 3. Simm 4. Percival 5. Grace 6. Lomax 7. Dodd 8. Lees 9. Roby 10. Knowles A drop off no, there are saints academy products all the way through SL Hull: Savelio, Swift Cas: Richardson, NRL: Thompson, Hudds: Jones, gaskell, greenwood Leeds: Eastmond (start of season) Leigh: Eaves, Foster Salford: Costello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yipyee Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, David Dockhouse Host said: Because the player gets to chose which club if there are 2 or more interested. They always, usually, chose the best teams. Some don't even have academies Yep, and there you go, also young players will chose the clubs who have the best record at promoting the youth through the system. If a club doesnt have an academy they cannot have any 'homegrown' players simple as. Theres no reason why some clubs couldnt have thrieving academys looking at the community clubs where they are based. This would then lead to strong first teams on the pitch with a few signings to plug the gaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yipyee Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 hour ago, David Dockhouse Host said: Any player is a product of all the clubs they played for. Community clubs are super important. Scholarships then develop the advanced further. Academy hopefully get them to 1st grade level. All are important. On a side note, Olly Russell played for Wigan, he is son of Richard Russell, former Wigan, Cass and Oldham. Had the fortune to be at Oldham the same time as him and he was a brilliant player and a top bloke too Thats a great pyramid structure and all teams should be structured this way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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