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29 minutes ago, Tabby said:

Hence Mr Beaumont’s interview on radio Manchester were he states the reasons why that is the case. Who ever is promoted will face the same consequences. 

That makes the decision to apply for promotion only seem more stupid to be fair then you'll appreciate?

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33 minutes ago, Damien said:

But surely that is why Leigh are at the foot of the table and have had the season why they have. Being content with also rans is all well and good but its pretty hard to stay in SL if you cant attract quality too.

But the team was assembled to play in the Championship and the theory was the roster would be improved as the season went on, but Covid reasoned that would not happen.

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31 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

I just don't really understand this attitude.

Yes, you would expect the teams at the top of the league to have the first choice of players by providing opportunity to win things alongside the cap spend etc.  But there is (as you say) a market for the players who may be 'also ran's' .  It just feels to me that if you don't have the biggest budget so why hinder yourself any further by also portraying a culture within the business that appears unattractive.  It is self defeating.

I am still hopeful that Dr Koukash comes on board at Leigh but as time goes by and nothing has been said I am doubtful that would happen, but if it did and Leigh's spending power could match if not surpass any of the other clubs, I am sure there would be many on this site who would resent it happening.

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37 minutes ago, whatmichaelsays said:

Leigh came into Super League with a handicap, but there's no reason to say that if the players had been motivated, if they had felt valued and that if there was a vision or prospects that they can buy into, their performances wouldn't have been better than they have been. They still might not have been good enough to overcome those handicaps and stay up, but they may well have been better than they have been.

When people feel valued, they go the extra mile, they buy into the ethos of the environment they're in, they're more likely to join and they're more likely to stay if you want to keep them. Demotivated staff will only ever give you just enough so as not to get fired. If you want more from them, you have to offer them something and unfortunately, the threat of a lambasting in the press isn't going to cut it. 

Again, I'm sympathetic to the situation Leigh found themselves in this year but if Beaumont wants to build a rag-tag bunch of players who couldn't get contracts elsewhere into a competitive team, he has to work an awful lot harder at making them feel valued. If he wants to treat them like dirt and lambast them in public, then he has no right to complain when the players respond in kind, and see their time in Leigh as a contract where they'll put up with him for a year for the sake of a decent pay day. As @Dunbar rightly says, if you're already at a disadvantage, why entrench that further with a toxic culture? 

Again, it's a culture that Beaumont seems happy to build at Leigh and one he seems happy to revel in. He's free to do that, but he isn't free of the consequences of doing so. 

You have managed to write in four paragraphs your complete lack of comprehending what has been going on at Leigh this season, but don't let facts get in the way of your imagination.

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2 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

You said "money talks", I'm just pointing out that evidently there is a limit on that.

That limit is evident on what league you are actually in. Still no clarification yet and still signings are now being made. Again who ever faces promotion will again share the consequences Leigh have.

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2 minutes ago, Tabby said:

That limit is evident on what league you are actually in. Still no clarification yet and still signings are now being made. Again who ever faces promotion will again share the consequences Leigh have.

How were London far more competitive than Leigh with a squad which it was widely reported was way off the full salary cap? It is blatantly not just about money.

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1 minute ago, Tabby said:

That limit is evident on what league you are actually in. Still no clarification yet and still signings are now being made. Again who ever faces promotion will again share the consequences Leigh have.

And especially so if 2023 does go to 2 x 10's there us a strong possibility that 3 clubs could be relegated Toulouse or *Fev would be favourite for the drop if only one was going down if it's 3 then they would have a snowball in hells chance of staying up.

* Fev are my favourites to win the Championship GF.

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2 minutes ago, Damien said:

How were London far more competitive than Leigh with a squad which it was widely reported was way off the full salary cap? It is blatantly not just about money.

How competitive have they been this season as a full time club? 

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32 minutes ago, JohnM said:

It may be of course that there are a number of players not signed elsewhere for reasons other than quality. Even so, I believe that newly promoted teams need protection from immediate relegation, despite their owners best efforts to alienate everyone. There must be  some decent idea out there. Maybe it's time to consider some sort of draft system, for example. A decent sensible cool calm and collected discussion within the game would not go amiss, but those adjectives might rule out at least  one owner from the discussion.

Scrap or raise the salary cap significantly to allow a promoted club to outspend those treading water in Super League. 

Perhaps more radically another approach would be to give the promoted club more in funding to allow them to overcome the inherent disadvantages that a promoted club faces. Obviously SL took the complete opposite approach with Leigh this year.

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5 minutes ago, GeordieSaint said:

What’s been going on at Leigh this season?

In respect of the playing roster, at the outset the weakest of all the teams but the numbers of players available for most of the season has been really bad, and even when 17 could be put out there has been 4 half backs in the starting lineup many times playing in the forwards.

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8 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

In respect of the playing roster, at the outset the weakest of all the teams but the numbers of players available for most of the season has been really bad, and even when 17 could be put out there has been 4 half backs in the starting lineup many times playing in the forwards.

All fair enough.  But in what way does it mitigate the terrible leadership he has displayed by publicly slagging off his playing staff?

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1 minute ago, Dunbar said:

All fair enough.  But in what way does it mitigate the terrible leadership he has displayed by publicly slagging off his playing staff?

What should he do? Bury his head in the sand like most in this sport.

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28 minutes ago, Tabby said:

That limit is evident on what league you are actually in. Still no clarification yet and still signings are now being made. Again who ever faces promotion will again share the consequences Leigh have.

No clarification on what?

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26 minutes ago, Tabby said:

That limit is evident on what league you are actually in. Still no clarification yet and still signings are now being made. Again who ever faces promotion will again share the consequences Leigh have.

What higher league could Leigh have been in to recruit? I've no doubt at least 2 clubs in Super League operated on lower potential budgets than Leigh this season (Wakey and Salford), but Leigh couldn't get anybody of serious quality to sign for them. With the toxic culture in the club organisation, exposed in full force by Beaumont’s comments last weekend, money didn't talk.

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