Tommygilf Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Gledhill aside, France is, of all the expansion points for the British game, one of the most logical. However it is dying for a strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnyia Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 41 minutes ago, Whippet13 said: Given the current financial situation I suspect the English clubs will ask: "How much is this going to cost us?". However, a French team in L1 or the Championship who did not take any central funding and paid travel costs would probably be quite welcome in the RFL system. I think it's a great idea, just needs to be somewhere with a decent population and preferably a good relationship with the local Rugby Union as is the case with Toulouse to avoid any sabotage. That's the rule, if you join league one etc you have to pay all the travel costs for the teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, barnyia said: That's the rule, if you join league one etc you have to pay all the travel costs for the teams. What is the annual cost to run Les Sangliers 1st team Barny. I am guessing (ex pro wages aside) €50k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henson Park Old Firm Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Aude Cathers maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrumonside ref Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Tommygilf said: Gledhill aside, France is, of all the expansion points for the British game, one of the most logical. However it is dying for a strategy. Maybe with a World Cup in 2025 they have time to devise a plan to get a team ready to compete in England off the back of the publicity? I wouldn’t claim to know much about the French scene at all, but this seems like a golden opportunity in terms of alignment. I hope a solution can be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 38 minutes ago, Henson Park Old Firm said: Aude Cathers maybe? Would you merge Cas, Fev and Trin? Mergers don’t work imho, and I think Carcassonne could do it on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkpom Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Catalans Dragons is a merger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henson Park Old Firm Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Eddie said: Would you merge Cas, Fev and Trin? Mergers don’t work imho, and I think Carcassonne could do it on their own. No..... but Huddersfield and Sheffield did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Henson Park Old Firm said: No..... but Huddersfield and Sheffield did And that worked very well! Inverness Caledonian Thistle are the only successful merger that I can think of in British sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, nkpom said: Catalans Dragons is a merger! Good point, though it’s the same city and not spread over a wide area. Where would Old Cathars play their home games for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronicler of Chiswick Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Given the source, I reckon that there's a better chance of the next overseas side coming from Latvia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 19 minutes ago, Chronicler of Chiswick said: Given the source, I reckon that there's a better chance of the next overseas side coming from Latvia! Why is there so much hate for Mick Gledhill on this forum? Ok he may not be everyone’s cup of tea but it seems a bit out of proportion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnyia Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Lowdesert said: What is the annual cost to run Les Sangliers 1st team Barny. I am guessing (ex pro wages aside) €50k? I've no Idea on wages, I only knew what the trainees where getting, I've no idea for the first team, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 45 minutes ago, barnyia said: I've no Idea on wages, I only knew what the trainees where getting, I've no idea for the first team, No, the costs excluding wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Eddie said: Why is there so much hate for Mick Gledhill on this forum? Ok he may not be everyone’s cup of tea but it seems a bit out of proportion? I think there is a very strong dose of take anything he says with a pinch of salt I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 A few questions spring to mind. The club would be placed into The third division whose central funding will be virtually zero and let’s say the cost to travel is £20k 1. How can the clubs afford that with the reduced funding or 2. How can the RFL justify taking it from central funds. my preferred solution is a third French club into 2 tens structure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, sweaty craiq said: A few questions spring to mind. The club would be placed into The third division whose central funding will be virtually zero and let’s say the cost to travel is £20k 1. How can the clubs afford that with the reduced funding or 2. How can the RFL justify taking it from central funds. my preferred solution is a third French club into 2 tens structure Its been suggested the French team will have to cover travel costs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnyia Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Lowdesert said: No, the costs excluding wages. It's 20k to the federation just play in the comp(no prize money either) 1k for the u19s ,coach travel around 500/600 a trip minimum up to 1k for the longer trips, , a couple of full time secretaries, club house costs, kit ,Friday night meal, match filming costs, GPS stats costs, emergency service cost for game day plus a doctor, training material balls etc, 120 euros per player for their playing licence, (the u19s pay their own), the stadium and training facilities are maintained by the local council. It could be a little more than 50k Fcl who posts on here ,would know better than me, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 23 minutes ago, barnyia said: It's 20k to the federation just play in the comp(no prize money either) 1k for the u19s ,coach travel around 500/600 a trip minimum up to 1k for the longer trips, , a couple of full time secretaries, club house costs, kit ,Friday night meal, match filming costs, GPS stats costs, emergency service cost for game day plus a doctor, training material balls etc, 120 euros per player for their playing licence, (the u19s pay their own), the stadium and training facilities are maintained by the local council. It could be a little more than 50k Fcl who posts on here ,would know better than me, Thanks mate, that’s comprehensive enough. I suppose the Federation 20k price would drop off if an Elite team went into League 1 but the travelling costs would sky rocket to balance that up plus another €xx000 for funding the opposition flights. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lowdesert said: Thanks mate, that’s comprehensive enough. I suppose the Federation 20k price would drop off if an Elite team went into League 1 but the travelling costs would sky rocket to balance that up plus another €xx000 for funding the opposition flights. . I was about to say there is no way the RFL would be so ridiculous that they’d make the French team pay for their own away travel costs plus the other teams’ costs of going to France, but then I remembered this is the RFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Spidey said: Its been suggested the French team will have to cover travel costs Does that include time off work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 51 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said: Does that include time off work? Yes at double time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Eddie said: I was about to say there is no way the RFL would be so ridiculous that they’d make the French team pay for their own away travel costs plus the other teams’ costs of going to France, but then I remembered this is the RFL. Yes, that’s the deal. Pay for travel. Needs a hell of a commitment to fund that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 8 hours ago, Eddie said: Why is there so much hate for Mick Gledhill on this forum? Ok he may not be everyone’s cup of tea but it seems a bit out of proportion? Mick is a great guy and loves RL. However, he does make a lot of stuff up based on the most tenuous of rumours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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