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On 03/10/2021 at 23:31, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

That’s the population of the small town sitting between Wakefield and Castleford known as Featherstone according to the data from the last available census.

If they do upset the odds and win next week personally I think it’d be a disaster for the sport of Rugby League, but what I’d like to know is are they guaranteed promotion if they do win? I believe in previous years clubs had to meet certain criteria, do Featherstone meet them all? Would Batley have been promoted if they’d have won it?  Are these decisions made before or after the Championship Grand Final? If the Championship Grand Final winners are denied promotion for whatever reason would the bottom place Super League club keep their place? 

Its just not about the population of the town.city it's also about bring news fans to the game and news sponsors and having proper junior development in that area.

I'm not sure Fev will bring any new fans to the game if I'm honest, but they might bring in new sponsors. For argument sake Peters the Plumbers people could sponsor them for £100 a try and Browns Building Supplies could sponsor them for £100 for all the penalty's they score and try conversions.

The criteria for any club coming into Super League surely must be a decent ground, new fans and new sponsors and and junior development

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2 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

Yes 

So why are you againt others having a preference?

"The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby.

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6 hours ago, Scubby said:

And lose through Leigh fans cancelling? These numbers are miniscule compared to what sky's agenda is. Rugby League is a staple offering for general Sky Sports subscribers - the large majority of which are subscribing for football first.

The bigger profile Super League gets the better it is for Sky. Full stop.

Whilst I do agree with that principle - I do feel there is a tipping point. I think we are moving into dangerous territory if we move to 10 teams and only 8 of them are English. That is a halving of British teams since the 1994/1995 season and SL was born. 

We really need a plan on what kind of league we are to be, rather than sleepwalking into something by accident. 

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6 minutes ago, Davo5 said:

I have and Toulouse are not being hailed as the saviours of Superleague.

You’ve used this line before on another thread regarding the same subject and you were made to look stupid then aswell.

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I think we need to be a little less snobby and serious about the game. My preference is for Toulouse to come up and I will be supporting them this weekend, but I will certainly be happy for Fev if they do make it. I think it is a little small-time for fans to focus too much on who is promoted and relegated and the benefits they bring etc. - the game needs to be working on its bigger issues that in reality won't be massively affected either way by the result this weekend.

We should just enjoy the sport, allow clubs to enjoy doing what they can, and maybe we should be a little less miserable about it. 

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8 minutes ago, Dave T said:

Whilst I do agree with that principle - I do feel there is a tipping point. I think we are moving into dangerous territory if we move to 10 teams and only 8 of them are English. That is a halving of British teams since the 1994/1995 season and SL was born. 

We really need a plan on what kind of league we are to be, rather than sleepwalking into something by accident. 

Strategy strategy strategy!

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2 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

So why are you againt others having a preference?

My preference is who wins the game , I like both clubs equally 

I don't mind others having a preference , I have them about other clubs as I expressed in the recent Leeds v Wigan game , but I still don't like the constant ridiculing of a good solid RL club with passionate fans who've followed their club and the sport for decades ( nearly centuries in Robins case 😉 ) and deserve a shot at the top table as much as anybody 

Also the ' blind faith ' expressed as to what Toulouse might bring to the table , which nobody can be sure of 

May the best team win , and whoever that is scare the ###### out of the teams they'll be fighting against to stay in SL next year 

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1 hour ago, Cardypaul said:

I have got to be honest it really amuses me when everyone talks about the huge commercial benefits and tv deals that are going to happen if Toulouse get promoted when the reality I have seen absolutely no evidence of this. Toulouse is a town dominated by Rugby Union and with one of the best teams in Europe that is just not going to change. As I understand it Catalan were having to pay broadcasters to cover there games so I just don’t see a second club having a great effect on that. 
Unfortunately the reality is if Toulouse get promoted they will bring nothing to the game.

Clearly as a Fev fan I hope we win however if we lose we can at least look forward to the huge amounts of money Toulouse are going to bring to the game.

At last somebody gets it. Praise the lord.

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Just now, Tommygilf said:

Strategy strategy strategy!

indeed. I bring it up quite often, but whilst I dislike the sport I always keep an eye on the structure and politics of the Pro12/14/URC as I think it is possibly the way we should have looked to set ourselves up - particularly if we were ever going to bother with NA expansion. Not that I think it's a natural fit, but you can't just stumble into an international league, there really does have to be at least the pretence of a plan!

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11 minutes ago, Dave T said:

Whilst I do agree with that principle - I do feel there is a tipping point. I think we are moving into dangerous territory if we move to 10 teams and only 8 of them are English. That is a halving of British teams since the 1994/1995 season and SL was born. 

We really need a plan on what kind of league we are to be, rather than sleepwalking into something by accident. 

Plan ? 😂

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1 minute ago, GUBRATS said:

My preference is who wins the game , I like both clubs equally 

I don't mind others having a preference , I have them about other clubs as I expressed in the recent Leeds v Wigan game , but I still don't like the constant ridiculing of a good solid RL club with passionate fans who've followed their club and the sport for decades ( nearly centuries in Robins case 😉 ) and deserve a shot at the top table as much as anybody 

Also the ' blind faith ' expressed as to what Toulouse might bring to the table , which nobody can be sure of 

May the best team win , and whoever that is scare the ###### out of the teams they'll be fighting against to stay in SL next year 

I agree. I'm an out and out expansionist, my natural stance is to support expansion teams over established teams, but I find the attitudes to existing teams distasteful a lot of the time. 

We should value every team who plays RL, wherever they are from.

Apart from St Helens obviously.

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1 minute ago, Dave T said:

I agree. I'm an out and out expansionist, my natural stance is to support expansion teams over established teams, but I find the attitudes to existing teams distasteful a lot of the time. 

We should value every team who plays RL, wherever they are from.

Apart from St Helens obviously.

Wigan and Leeds for me 

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7 minutes ago, binosh said:

At last somebody gets it. Praise the lord.

Not you mate.

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I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.

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12 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

My preference is who wins the game , I like both clubs equally 

I don't mind others having a preference , I have them about other clubs as I expressed in the recent Leeds v Wigan game , but I still don't like the constant ridiculing of a good solid RL club with passionate fans who've followed their club and the sport for decades ( nearly centuries in Robins case 😉 ) and deserve a shot at the top table as much as anybody 

Also the ' blind faith ' expressed as to what Toulouse might bring to the table , which nobody can be sure of 

May the best team win , and whoever that is scare the ###### out of the teams they'll be fighting against to stay in SL next year 

You're a cheeky monkey you are!!!

We are the same school year as each other!!!🤣🤣🤣

This thread is making me chuckle no end especially with Facebook being down🤩

 

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3 hours ago, Fevrover said:

Yes but they have worked there way up from non league BECAUSE they can and if they were to get to the Premier league ( highly unlikely i  know ) but they wouldn be refused because they are a small club. Bournemouth managed on 11,000 fans against Man United's 75,000 gates.

You still have to meet criteria to get promoted through the football divisions. 

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14 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

My preference is who wins the game , I like both clubs equally 

I don't mind others having a preference , I have them about other clubs as I expressed in the recent Leeds v Wigan game , but I still don't like the constant ridiculing of a good solid RL club with passionate fans who've followed their club and the sport for decades ( nearly centuries in Robins case 😉 ) and deserve a shot at the top table as much as anybody 

Also the ' blind faith ' expressed as to what Toulouse might bring to the table , which nobody can be sure of 

May the best team win , and whoever that is scare the ###### out of the teams they'll be fighting against to stay in SL next year 

Well, I personally wouldn't ridicule Fev... the club or the fans.  As I have said already, if they were in Super League they would get my support every week.

The blind faith is an interesting one.  Yes, nobody knows for sure how having Toulouse in Super League would play out but I think we know how Fev would (not results wise, just the shape of the league and game).

I personally like the unknown.  I like to see how things play out.  I am an eternal optimist and so I hope a Toulouse win would add real value to the sport in the Northern Hemisphere. 

Whatever happens though, I will still enjoy next season and good luck to both sides on Sunday.

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9 minutes ago, bobbruce said:

You still have to meet criteria to get promoted through the football divisions. 

I mean, clubs literally get blocked from promotion and/or have to spend on ground/other improvements every season all the way through the pyramid.

The only reason you don't see it in the Football League is that there are shared criteria that virtually all clubs now meet for their next potential promotion but, for example, not every club in League Two right now would be eligible to get into the Premier League without serious upgrades.

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45 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

Do you have a preference to who you would like to see go up?

I have a preference.

I'd like the winners of the million pound game to be promoted. I don't care if they're from Toulouse, Featherstone, Buenos Aires, Mogadishu, Emmerdale, Ambridge, Llanfair­pwllgwyngyll­gogery­chwyrn­drobwll­llan­tysilio­gogo­goch, Mars or Moonbase Alpha.

 

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1 minute ago, gingerjon said:

I mean, clubs literally get blocked from promotion and/or have to spend on ground/other improvements every season all the way through the pyramid.

The only reason you don't see it in the Football League is that there are shared criteria that virtually all clubs now meet for their next potential promotion but, for example, not every club in League Two right now would be eligible to get into the Premier League without serious upgrades.

Whereas in RL we have literally no criteria to be met from community level to SL 

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