Sat 9 Oct: SLGF: Catalans Dragons v St Helens KO 18:00 (Sky)

[Chrispmartha]

Just now, theswanmcr said:

Two appalling decisions that potentially changed the outcome. We talk about players being able to handle the big match occasions but what about refs?

Refs will make mistakes just like players, and thry are making a lot of decisions in what is a very fast sport.

[Tabby]

2 minutes ago, Dave T said:

It was the wrong decision imho, but it was an error, not a conspiracy. 

He was poaching for the penalty. He should know better at that stage in the game.

[dkw]

2 minutes ago, theswanmcr said:

Two appalling decisions that potentially changed the outcome. We talk about players being able to handle the big match occasions but what about refs?

Make a list of the mistakes the ref made (in your opinion) then compare it to the list if mistakes the players made, see which list us bigger....

[Maximus Decimus]

2 minutes ago, theswanmcr said:

Two appalling decisions that potentially changed the outcome. We talk about players being able to handle the big match occasions but what about refs?

What will get forgotten in the next couple of days, is that had the ref allowed it to play on it would've still almost certainly finished 12-10 to Saints.

[Sports Prophet]

Hope you all enjoyed it. Too early for me to stay up any longer.

One more match day before the end of the season.

[Dave T]

1 minute ago, Dunbar said:

Anyone complaining about whether the ref should or shouldn't have given a penalty at the play the ball hasn't been watching Rugby League for the last 15 years.

Isn't what happened a newish interpretation? It used to be a penalty for incorrect play the ball. Now I think the refs think it is an easy call as it's not a penalty, but a Saints player got involved after the Tackle was complete, trapped Tomkins head between his knees and got the ball as a reward. That hasn't been happening for 15 years. 

[Futtocks]

 

[Dave T]

Just now, Maximus Decimus said:

What will get forgotten in the next couple of days, is that had the ref allowed it to play on it would've still almost certainly finished 12-10 to Saints.

And had he given the penalty that it should have been? 

[Tabby]

Just now, Sports Prophet said:

Hope you all enjoyed it. Too early for me to stay up any longer.

One more match day before the end of the season.

Goodnight fellla..

[Robin Evans]

So this is how it goes is it?

One of the best finals in years and most of the comments are about the ref. 

We do this so we'll don't we.

 

[Dave T]

2 minutes ago, Tabby said:

He was poaching for the penalty. He should know better at that stage in the game.

The Saints player isn't allowed to do what he did. 

[dkw]

1 minute ago, Futtocks said:

 

That's Rugby league.....

[Henson Park Old Firm]

I'm guttered for Catalans

[Dave T]

Just now, Robin Evans said:

So this is how it goes is it?

One of the best finals in years and most of the comments are about the ref. 

We do this so we'll don't we.

 

It's sport. The discussion is about what happened on the field. About the game. 

We need to stop worrying about sanitising every discussion about the game. 

Controversy is a huge part of the entertainment of sport. It's all good. 

[Fevrover]

5 minutes ago, Nate90 said:

It's so tedious seeing the same winners all the time. I'm absolutely gutted for Catalans they have played so well all season .

And so have Saints.

[Maximus Decimus]

1 minute ago, Dave T said:

And had he given the penalty that it should have been? 

The ball was played, and had he let it carry on nobody would remember it now. It's only because it was given a penalty the other way, that people are saying it should've been a penalty to Tomkins instead.

I don't agree with the decision, and think it was odd and especially odd timing but it wasn't particuarly controversial that he didn't give a penalty to Tomkins.

[Maximus Decimus]

3 minutes ago, Robin Evans said:

So this is how it goes is it?

One of the best finals in years and most of the comments are about the ref. 

We do this so we'll don't we.

 

If you think a highly controversial refereeing decision in the 78th minute would be ignored in any sport in any country around the world, then you're wrong.

[Tommygilf]

I've not been able to properly watch the game, but congrats to Saints on the Threepeat, and to Catalans - they say you've got to lose one to win one.

 

[Tabby]

3 minutes ago, Dave T said:

The Saints player isn't allowed to do what he did. 

You can’t PTB whilst in that situation. He doesn’t play it he gets the penalty. 

 

[Dave T]

Just now, Maximus Decimus said:

The ball was played, and had he let it carry on nobody would remember it now. It's only because it was given a penalty the other way, that people are saying it should've been a penalty to Tomkins instead.

I don't agree with the decision, and think it was odd and especially odd timing but it wasn't particuarly controversial that he didn't give a penalty to Tomkins.

If you are making a decision on an incorrect ptb, and the (non) tackler has the guy in a headlock with his knees, of course that is controversial. 

It's not givee it to Saints or ignore. 

[Dave T]

Just now, Tommygilf said:

I've not been able to properly watch the game, but congrats to Saints on the Threepeat, and to Catalans - they say you've got to lose one to win one.

 

That isn't true.

[Tommygilf]

Just now, Dave T said:

That isn't true.

*lose many to win one?

[idrewthehaggis]

35 minutes ago, theswanmcr said:

Hmm a last minute call in a final with an ‘incorrect play the ball’ favouring the traditional big club… what like the one Liam Moore called against Salford in last year’s Challenge Cup?

Just a coincidence I guess?? 

I just was hoping no one would mention that. It still rankles. 

I just think they are ######. Open to accusations when they are just not very good when it matters. Possibly over familiar with some, clearly chummy to others, easily swayed and frightened of certain few and cast with the same make up as go along fudge mentality of the RFL. 

Punch on Maloney, Penalty try, incorrect play. Really poor. Job done.

 

[Dave T]

1 minute ago, Tabby said:

You can’t PTB whilst in that situation. He doesn’t play it he gets the penalty. 

 

Happy to disagree. I'm not sure why the defender gets the free pass in that situation. And he wasn't even involved in the Tackle. 

[dkw]

1 minute ago, Tommygilf said:

*lose many to win one?

Lose them all to not win one?