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Sat 9 Oct: SLGF: Catalans Dragons v St Helens KO 18:00 (Sky)


Who will win?  

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  1. 1. Who will win?

    • Catalans Dragons by 13 points or more
      3
    • Catalans Dragons by 7 to 12 points
      16
    • Catalans Dragons by 1 to 6 points
      29
    • St Helens by 1 to 6 points
      10
    • St Helens by 7 to 12 points
      19
    • St Helens by 13 points or more
      12

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Just finished watching on delay. As someone supporting Catalans, St Helens more than deserving victors. 

Garcia was immense all game as he has been all year, clearly the best 13 in the league. McIlorum had his best game of the year too after being fairly average for most of the season.

Probably the best I've seen a side contain Walmsley this season which is really a credit to Saints being able to win without his usual devastating runs in the middle. 

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The touch, the punch, penalty try, not to mention two or three more contentious decisions (the last foul whistled on Sam Tomkins). there is something not to be happy about when a match is played with 2 points of difference

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9 minutes ago, fcl said:

The touch, the punch, penalty try, not to mention two or three more contentious decisions (the last foul whistled on Sam Tomkins). there is something not to be happy about when a match is played with 2 points of difference

Yeah, the decision not to award an 8 point try and a yellow card for Yaha's knee on Naiqama in the act of scoring was quite contentious, I agree.

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An excellent game of rugby league tonight I thought. Both sides played to a high quality and you couldn't have complained if the result went the other way.

What impressed me about us is our composure. Lose a man, concede a try and no panic. Catalans turning the screw near the end and we defended brilliantly. A total turnaround from our past teams who lost control when under pressure. Woolf deserves immense credit for this.

Catalans were very good too and have shown the potential to be in finals again going forward and the potential to win them too.

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I picked saints to win by 1-6 points. Can I prove it? No, but trust me I did. 😉

Great game although I listened to Radio Merseyside on the Beeb so for any contentious calls I can't comment without actually seeing them. Hopefully on a highlights video later I will get a view. 

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23 minutes ago, fcl said:

The touch, the punch, penalty try, not to mention two or three more contentious decisions (the last foul whistled on Sam Tomkins). there is something not to be happy about when a match is played with 2 points of difference

Should have been a penalty try although it was the same as the 3 in the first half that went unpunished.

Just to even it up, knees to the head that has gone on report. On report is designed for games without a video ref, the officals bottled it here also.

Coote foot in touch twice, once his foot was on the line when jumping, 2 when he took a step out of bounds. He got the benefit of the doubt as he did it last week.

The contact with Tomkins from LMS was laughable.

The obstruction that was played at by Catalan number 10 with 3 mins to go.

The ball steal that was a penalty from batchelor, why wasnt this just a play the ball?

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5 minutes ago, Chris22 said:

An excellent game of rugby league tonight I thought. Both sides played to a high quality and you couldn't have complained if the result went the other way.

What impressed me about us is our composure. Lose a man, concede a try and no panic. Catalans turning the screw near the end and we defended brilliantly. A total turnaround from our past teams who lost control when under pressure. Woolf deserves immense credit for this.

Catalans were very good too and have shown the potential to be in finals again going forward and the potential to win them too.

Yeah, a total turnaround from relying on the officials to give St Helens those important decisions.

I’m not biased but if I was trapped in a burning house and St Helen’s Fire brigade turned up, I’d surely perish in a blaze of 70’s carpet fumes and melting ceiling tiles- but at least it would be an honourable death.  Ultimately, that’s better than giving St Helen’s any credit whatsoever.

Not even joking.

 

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23 minutes ago, Chris22 said:

Yeah, the decision not to award an 8 point try and a yellow card for Yaha's knee on Naiqama in the act of scoring was quite contentious, I agree.

Slid in dangerously with his knees and the refs bottled it.

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2 hours ago, Johnoco said:

I’m not biased but if I was trapped in a burning house and St Helen’s Fire brigade turned up, I’d surely perish in a blaze of 70’s carpet fumes and melting ceiling tiles- but at least it would be an honourable death.  Ultimately, that’s better than giving St Helen’s any credit whatsoever.

What rotten luck that St. Helen owns the fire brigade in Idle. Try the Co-op. Don`t think they have any firefighters, but they do insurance and funerals.

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Loved the match enormously and congratulations to the St Helens side for a hard fought win and to Catalans for their valiant effort - also to the 10 of 89 tipsters who correctly forecast the margin at the start of the thread.

My special award goes to Jack Welsby who during every match that has been shown live in Aus. throughout this season has been the only player, without fail, to play the ball correctly by getting to his feet, placing the ball on the ground and then playing it back with his foot. An amazing achievement!

 

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Well that must have been the perfect final for this forum. Plenty of empty seats to discuss, a Saints win to please the anti expansionists, a dodgy ref performance and a brilliant opportunity for people to vent their frustrations against Saints using a keyboard. If only there was a way to bring in Leigh or Fev and it would tick all the boxes. 

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27 minutes ago, glossop saint said:

Well that must have been the perfect final for this forum. Plenty of empty seats to discuss, a Saints win to please the anti expansionists, a dodgy ref performance and a brilliant opportunity for people to vent their frustrations against Saints using a keyboard. If only there was a way to bring in Leigh or Fev and it would tick all the boxes. 

Well, we can segwey into the weekend's big game later today...

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9 hours ago, Cumbrian Fanatic said:

Just got home from watching  this in the local rugby league club, not willing to trawl through 24 pages of opinion on the game but just wanted to say what a fantastic advertisement of our sport. After it finished the television in the club was switched on to the England football game and it was like switching to slow motion.

Not really a fair comparison isn’t? 
 

The England v Andorra game would have been akin to Australia playing Malta at RL. 
 

RL (and it’s fans) let themselves down with needless comparisons to other sports. Celebrate the spectacle of the Grand Final as it’s very own event - it’s superb enough!

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Well done Saints. They just edged it, but it was a superbly entertaining game.

I thought the game changer was Walmsley in the last 20. Until then the Dragons forwards had won the battle. I thought Kasiano was exceptional, but just ran out of steam.

Saints played the sin-bin brilliantly. Just bread and butter sets in attack for the whole 10 mins. It bought time and field position at the most important time.

The rub of the green wasn’t with Catalans, and whilst I would have loved to have seen them scrape home, at the back of my mind is the sensible notion that Saints were marginally the better team at key moments.

I’d lost love with Super League before this game, but hope that might be the catalyst for a change of mind. That said, I sat in front of two absolute whoppers (Saints fans) who made a laughing stock of themselves around a fairly neutral area of the stadium. They were simply a caricature of flat-capped, ref-bashing, anti-expansion twerps, with seemingly little knowledge of the rules of the game or the history of the sport, despite proclaiming their deep and loyal history to the club. Everything they saw, they had a problem with, except if it happened in a Saints shirt! 😂Their rose tinted glasses were incredible. I laughed it off, and filed it in the ‘every club has one’ folder. 

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Games like last night fascinate me. Sure it would have been nice to have had a couple of great tries with free flowing handling, but I always enjoy the ebbs and flows of momentum and last night had me absolutely hooked. 

Saints were worthy winners, but I dont think there was much in it at all, they had the first half, but I thought Catalans were outstanding to absorb the pressure and be 2 pts down at half time. 

In the 2nd half, whilst Saints had spells where they were on top, I thought Catalans were more effective. This is where I thought they had a bad run of luck. 

Three key decisions in that 2nd half went against them.

The foot in touch would have given them an attack in Saints half. 

I 100% think it was a penalty try, a foul that prevents a try is an easy decision imho. 

And finally taking the ball of Catalans with 2 minutes to go when Tomkins played the ball stood up whilst being interfered was bizarre. 

On top of this Catalans were forcing drop outs, a 40-20, Tomkins was looking lively and we had seen some gaps in that Saints defence (Tomkins and Maloney making breaks) - they were creaking. 

I can understand the unhappiness around the knees in the head during the try, but I do think it was accidental rather than the nasty tactic some adopt in situations like that. 

But overall, it was an outstanding game of rugby, despite the tries being attrition Al I thought it was a really good open game with both teams trying to entertain. 

A bit of controversy and some talking points are not bad things, that's sport, it happens, it's all part of the fun. 

 

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5 hours ago, unapologetic pedant said:

What rotten luck that St. Helen owns the fire brigade in Idle. Try the Co-op. Don`t think they have any firefighters, but they do insurance and funerals.

I was only partially joking. I’d still rather burn to death but they could rescue the Mrs, the cat and the LP’s. I’m not an extremist 

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I’ll look forward to watching the highlights later today. Quite often you don’t see things at games that people on TV can see and your opinion on an incident can be very wrong from what you thought you saw. Even the big screen isn’t that big from the other end of the ground. 

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1 hour ago, glossop saint said:

Well that must have been the perfect final for this forum. Plenty of empty seats to discuss, a Saints win to please the anti expansionists, a dodgy ref performance and a brilliant opportunity for people to vent their frustrations against Saints using a keyboard. If only there was a way to bring in Leigh or Fev and it would tick all the boxes. 

..... and Toronto 

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7 minutes ago, Johnoco said:

I’ll look forward to watching the highlights later today. Quite often you don’t see things at games that people on TV can see and your opinion on an incident can be very wrong from what you thought you saw. Even the big screen isn’t that big from the other end of the ground. 

It really isn't from the other end and why aren't there two screens

I was sure it was a penalty try from my end but no one else was shouting for it except me (and it was all Catalan fans around us) 

Watching it on telly tonight so I'll fume more then 

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46 minutes ago, Northern Eel said:

 I sat in front of two absolute whoppers (Saints fans) who made a laughing stock of themselves around a fairly neutral area of the stadium. They were simply a caricature of flat-capped, ref-bashing, anti-expansion twerps, with seemingly little knowledge of the rules of the game or the history of the sport, despite proclaiming their deep and loyal history to the club. Everything they saw, they had a problem with, except if it happened in a Saints shirt! 😂Their rose tinted glasses were incredible. I laughed it off, and filed it in the ‘every club has one’ folder. 

The Saints fans we met were all great in fairness.

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3 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

It really isn't from the other end and why aren't there two screens

I was sure it was a penalty try from my end but no one else was shouting for it except me (and it was all Catalan fans around us) 

Watching it on telly tonight so I'll fume more then 

100% penalty try no doubt about it the Dragons were robbed 😤

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