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Sat 9 Oct: SLGF: Catalans Dragons v St Helens KO 18:00 (Sky)


Who will win?  

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  1. 1. Who will win?

    • Catalans Dragons by 13 points or more
      3
    • Catalans Dragons by 7 to 12 points
      16
    • Catalans Dragons by 1 to 6 points
      29
    • St Helens by 1 to 6 points
      10
    • St Helens by 7 to 12 points
      19
    • St Helens by 13 points or more
      12

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1 hour ago, Derwent said:

On the 2 incidents involving Yaha :-

The referee was correct not to award a penalty try as the initial contact by Makinson was on Yaha’s bicep so his momentum was stopped by a legitimate hit. His arm then bounced up into Yaha’s head and was correctly deemed to be accidental contact with the head hence a yellow card. I can understand the call for a penalty try but if the initial contact that halts the player is legal (and it was) then a penalty try can’t be given.

At the other end, Yaha slid into Naquama knees first without any attempt to make a legitimate tackle. In fact his arms were down by his sides. The contact with the head may have been accidental but, as per Makinson’s tackle and as we have seen all year, accidental contact with the head is a yellow card. Moore chickened out by putting it on report.

Stop talking common sense, a lot on here don't like it.

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Seeing that tomkins incident again he's definitely playing for the penalty, of that there's no doubt so maybe that's why it wasn't given, for the whole match the ref hadn't given those. The mistake the ref made was giving a penalty to saints in my opinion,  should just have made tomkins go back and play it like he had done previous times in the game.

Incidentally I hope the RFL look at Tomkins reaction towards the ref, absolutely disgraceful in a show piece final.

 

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6 minutes ago, paulwalker71 said:

Nope

League winners were crowned champions all through the years I was growing up - from the 70s onwards. Then there were the end-of-season Premiership play-offs. But the league winners were champions.

splitting hairs ! you are missing the point -if you finish top of the league that is it for the season -as my wife points out-if somebody gets a second chance in football they would laugh at you.

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5 minutes ago, RLX111 said:

splitting hairs ! you are missing the point -if you finish top of the league that is it for the season -as my wife points out-if somebody gets a second chance in football they would laugh at you.

How about the fact there's play offs in every single league other than the prem where 4 teams get a second chance to "win" promotion, do football fans laugh at that?

More major sports have play offs to crown a season champion than don't. If anything football is now the outlier.

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Amazing game. Hated every second in the stadium because of the tension. Loved the outcome. 
 

I know people like to focus on the specific decisions which seem to favour/disfavour the team they wanted to lose/win. But that’ll always be the case and the fact is that this was a brutal, compelling final between the two best sides of the competition, and it showed. The refereeing - despite mistakes or interpretations - played its part in the production of that spectacle. 
 

One point - I haven’t rewatched on tv yet: the in-goal line markings weren’t entirely clear, but I thought that Saints’ second drop out at the end came from a clean arch by Percival who was in his own in-goal when he caught it. 20m restart, but a drop-out was given. I was a fair way from there, though. Did anyone see that incident?

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7 minutes ago, Roy Haggerty said:

Amazing game. Hated every second in the stadium because of the tension. Loved the outcome. 
 

I know people like to focus on the specific decisions which seem to favour/disfavour the team they wanted to lose/win. But that’ll always be the case and the fact is that this was a brutal, compelling final between the two best sides of the competition, and it showed. The refereeing - despite mistakes or interpretations - played its part in the production of that spectacle. 
 

One point - I haven’t rewatched on tv yet: the in-goal line markings weren’t entirely clear, but I thought that Saints’ second drop out at the end came from a clean arch by Percival who was in his own in-goal when he caught it. 20m restart, but a drop-out was given. I was a fair way from there, though. Did anyone see that incident?

Think Percival knocked it on. 

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As per some other comments I thought it was a great atmosphere and the game being so close as we entered the last quarter added to the intensity of "watching" - that is couldn't take eyes off any of the action.

The organises deserve a big pat on the back for how they build up the excitement and atmosphere towards kick off.  Considering fewer people in the stadium than normal it was in my opinion one of the best atmosphere for noise prior to kick off.  Having the music booming out and with the cascade building with the flames and such, which normally I think naff but this time was really good all added to it. Plus even the singer was good and added to the event.  All the provided flags being waved at each end again added to the spectacle. 

Hats off for making it a good event leading up to kick off. Not having a band in my opinion helped as didn't have to naff non exciting sporting moment music. Although I know some like it but given this year I'd give it a permanent miss.

As to the game... 

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1 hour ago, paulwalker71 said:

Nope

League winners were crowned champions all through the years I was growing up - from the 70s onwards. Then there were the end-of-season Premiership play-offs. But the league winners were champions.

Nope, who ever finished top got the league leaders trophy and then there was a play off to determine the champions. Like Dewsbury in 1973 they were champions but didn't finish top of the league.

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1 hour ago, Mark S said:

I am 99% certain that any successful business person would look at the state of the game and it’s finances and advise that we focus on SL. The NRL is proof that we don’t need promotion and relegation.

The Premier League is proof that we do need P & R 

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1 hour ago, Mark S said:

I am 99% certain that any successful business person would look at the state of the game and it’s finances and advise that we focus on SL. The NRL is proof that we don’t need promotion and relegation.

And Football is proof we do, the Aussie mindset is very different to that of the Brit, and the major team sports here all have it - there is a reason why!

A true sensible all game approach is required and that may need another split to achieve, we cannot throw money at clubs whose sole ambition is survival but we cannot cast them adrift and continue to ignore participation and amateur rl

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53 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Nope, who ever finished top got the league leaders trophy and then there was a play off to determine the champions. Like Dewsbury in 1973 they were champions but didn't finish top of the league.

Wasn't Dewsbury's win in 73 the last Championship play-off final? After that the table topping team were champions with the Premiership (play-off) being a separate trophy/competition up until the Super League play-offs were introduced in 98.

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12 hours ago, Johnoco said:

Yeah, a total turnaround from relying on the officials to give St Helens those important decisions.

I’m not biased but if I was trapped in a burning house and St Helen’s Fire brigade turned up, I’d surely perish in a blaze of 70’s carpet fumes and melting ceiling tiles- but at least it would be an honourable death.  Ultimately, that’s better than giving St Helen’s any credit whatsoever.

Not even joking.

 

It's posts like this that make me said that RL Meltdown isn't still active on Twitter.

 

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19 hours ago, Chrispmartha said:

I expected it to be low, but I don’t think we can take anything out of it really, as I say some people are still wary of attending bog games and weve got a team from another country which means  travel issues because of covid.

A mate of mine who is a Saints season ticket holder hasn’t been to a game this season as she just can’t risk the chance of catching Covid. 

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22 hours ago, Johnoco said:

I wanted Saints to lose anyway. But this clown from St Helens who just held the queue up at the bar for ages has doubled that. #fuming 

I had a clown from St Helens sat next too me also, he was another one who couldn’t handle his ale. I think he thought he was a Nigel Farage type but a fat version. He told me too “stand up for Jerusalem”, i asked him why and he said “because you should, and i hope you know all the lyrics. If you don’t have a look on google now”. So i sat down for the Jerusalem thing because before the game Saints fan’s were singing oh sit down. 
As Catalans were coming off the pitch after their warmup the said drunk said “do you see them there(pointing at Catalans), cowards they surrendered in 1945 ?”. I said “bloody hell i know i heard about that on Allo Allo”, he replied “ha yeah i know the soft b*******”. 
This makes me wonder why some fan’s have too make utter tools of themselves with getting blitzed before a game, aren’t they better waiting till after the game. 

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13 minutes ago, Josef K said:

I had a clown from St Helens sat next too me also, he was another one who couldn’t handle his ale. I think he thought he was a Nigel Farage type but a fat version. He told me too “stand up for Jerusalem”, i asked him why and he said “because you should, and i hope you know all the lyrics. If you don’t have a look on google now”. So i sat down for the Jerusalem thing because before the game Saints fan’s were singing oh sit down. 
As Catalans were coming off the pitch after their warmup the said drunk said “do you see them there(pointing at Catalans), cowards they surrendered in 1945 ?”. I said “bloody hell i know i heard about that on Allo Allo”, he replied “ha yeah i know the soft b*******”. 
This makes me wonder why some fan’s have too make utter tools of themselves with getting blitzed before a game, aren’t they better waiting till after the game. 

Surely this wasn't a Saints fan , it must have been a Fev fan , surely , anyway . I wouldn't stand up to sing anything that I didn't like , Jerusalem is a very boring hymn and I haven't got a clue what any of the words are .

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4 hours ago, Loiner said:

Nope, who ever finished top got the league leaders trophy and then there was a play off to determine the Ichampions. Like Dewsbury in 1973 they were champions but didn't finish top of the league.

I think you'll find that was the last year that happened until the advent of SL

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4 hours ago, Loiner said:

Nope, who ever finished top got the league leaders trophy and then there was a play off to determine the champions. Like Dewsbury in 1973 they were champions but didn't finish top of the league.

  I think they finished 8th in a top 8 play off i may be wrong it wouldn't be the first time.They came to Fev and beat us easily in the play offs.Didn't they beat Leeds in the final if so i went to the game.

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4 minutes ago, sentoffagain2 said:

  I think they finished 8th in a top 8 play off i may be wrong it wouldn't be the first time.They came to Fev and beat us easily in the play offs.Didn't they beat Leeds in the final if so i went to the game.

They beat Leeds at Odsal in the final having finished 8th in the table, but the play offs were competed for by the top 16(!) out of a 30 team league.

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13 minutes ago, Barley Mow said:

They beat Leeds at Odsal in the final having finished 8th in the table, but the play offs were competed for by the top 16(!) out of a 30 team league.

   Thanks for that i had a feeling it would be too much for me to be 100% right.

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6 hours ago, Mark S said:

I am 99% certain that any successful business person would look at the state of the game and it’s finances and advise that we focus on SL. The NRL is proof that we don’t need promotion and relegation.

I do 

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5 hours ago, Loiner said:

Nope, who ever finished top got the league leaders trophy and then there was a play off to determine the champions. Like Dewsbury in 1973 they were champions but didn't finish top of the league.

82 , Leigh 

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