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Sat 9 Oct: SLGF: Catalans Dragons v St Helens KO 18:00 (Sky)


Who will win?  

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  1. 1. Who will win?

    • Catalans Dragons by 13 points or more
      3
    • Catalans Dragons by 7 to 12 points
      16
    • Catalans Dragons by 1 to 6 points
      29
    • St Helens by 1 to 6 points
      10
    • St Helens by 7 to 12 points
      19
    • St Helens by 13 points or more
      12

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  • Poll closed on 09/10/21 at 17:30

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21 hours ago, Sidi Fidi Gold said:

Surely this wasn't a Saints fan , it must have been a Fev fan , surely , anyway . I wouldn't stand up to sing anything that I didn't like , Jerusalem is a very boring hymn and I haven't got a clue what any of the words are .

A hymn is that what it was Sidi. The fella who hated the “French surrendering cowards of 45”, kept looking down at me whilst he was singing. It’s as if he wanted me too stand up and applaud him because he knew all the words. 
After some of the drunken behaviour of Saturday id be happy for the GF KO to be brought forward to 11am.  

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On 09/10/2021 at 17:44, ATLANTISMAN said:

Here now I have never seen OT so empty for a SLGF ever very sad.

 

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With some of the dunderheads that were sat at the side or near me i wish it had been a lot more empty. 

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On 09/10/2021 at 20:01, Live after death said:

Saints gifted that there, got given everything, sad that the games now all about which  side can simply cheat the best 

The result didn’t go the way you wanted then ?. 

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On 09/10/2021 at 20:17, Nate90 said:

It's so tedious seeing the same winners all the time. I'm absolutely gutted for Catalans they have played so well all season. Hopefully Toulouse can raise a smile tomorrow 

Saints are so inconsiderate, i hate them. 

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On 09/10/2021 at 21:29, Maximus Decimus said:

That was a truly bizarre decision, it wasn't even close.

As others have said, a captain's challenge would be very helpful in this regard.

I wouldn’t want a captain’s challenge only because a match takes so long nowadays. Ganson & the RFL need to sort out the ruck area and correct PTB’s even they must see it’s shambolic (or do they). The number of stoppages are becoming tedious now, it seems that they’ll stop for anything and what happened too the blood bin. Will the RFL bring any new rules for next season regarding blood bins, and stoppages because their No7 needs another tie up for his left sock ?. 

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On 10/10/2021 at 00:53, RayCee said:

I picked saints to win by 1-6 points. Can I prove it? No, but trust me I did. 😉

Great game although I listened to Radio Merseyside on the Beeb so for any contentious calls I can't comment without actually seeing them. Hopefully on a highlights video later I will get a view. 

Was Alan let’s av a loook at the tactics now Rooney commentating ?. 

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On 10/10/2021 at 09:23, David Dockhouse Host said:

I'd love go an NFL game, it's rare so an attraction.

Same three teams winning all the main RL Trophies isn't rare or attractive to neutrals 

I guess depends what you mean main RL trophies... but lets not forget that 7 different clubs have won the leadership/top of the league shield.  If we think that it shows competitiveness then that is an achievement.  We of course as a sport don't help by down playing it as the hub cap... 

In the last 4 seasons only 2 clubs have won the Premier League... In the last 16 years only five clubs won PL and if we take away teams that only won once then only 3 clubs won majority of Premier League in those 16 years.  It doesn't seem to be a problem in soccer... but we in RL seem to get obsessed and want to level down rather than look to other clubs to improve to match the best.

 

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On 10/10/2021 at 08:41, Northern Eel said:

I’m sure the vast majority of folk are. Walking around with my young family in Catalans gear garnered a range of responses, many nice, but some along the lines of ‘Catalans are W*%nkers’, right in our faces. Neanderthal idiots. That’s all it is. Bumped into Jonny Vegas who had some light-hearted banter with the kids, just how it should be! 

One major observation for me was the distinct lack of other club colours compared to previous years. Did you get the same impression? 

 

On 10/10/2021 at 08:41, Northern Eel said:

I’m sure the vast majority of folk are. Walking around with my young family in Catalans gear garnered a range of responses, many nice, but some along the lines of ‘Catalans are W*%nkers’, right in our faces. Neanderthal idiots. That’s all it is. Bumped into Jonny Vegas who had some light-hearted banter with the kids, just how it should be! 

One major observation for me was the distinct lack of other club colours compared to previous years. Did you get the same impression? 

As we were making our way back to our transport there were two very angry French lads who id imagine were the worst for having one too many drinks. Porta-loos had been set out ready for the Manchester run, but the two French youngsters then decided to start punching the doors on these loo’s. One of them was so angry he started trying to move one of them and tip it over. But it was to heavy for him, i just hope there wasn’t someone in the loo trying to have a peaceful No2. You meet some amazing characters at a RL game, characters that you regret bumping into. 

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On 10/10/2021 at 09:23, David Dockhouse Host said:

I'd love go an NFL game, it's rare so an attraction.

Same three teams winning all the main RL Trophies isn't rare or attractive to neutrals 

How long does an American Football go on for, i believe there is a lot of stoppages. The bars must make a fortune, id imagine if you took any kids to the event you’d need too take out a mortgage with the prices they charge down at Spurs. 

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6 hours ago, Josef K said:

A hymn is that what it was Sidi. The fella who hated the “French surrendering cowards of 45”, kept looking down at me whilst he was singing. It’s as if he wanted me too stand up and applaud him because he knew all the words. 
After some of the drunken behaviour of Saturday id be happy for the GF KO to be brought forward to 11am.  

Loved the 'Allo 'Allo comeback. 👍

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7 hours ago, redjonn said:

I guess depends what you mean main RL trophies... but lets not forget that 7 different clubs have won the leadership/top of the league shield.  If we think that it shows competitiveness then that is an achievement.  We of course as a sport don't help by down playing it as the hub cap... 

In the last 4 seasons only 2 clubs have won the Premier League... In the last 16 years only five clubs won PL and if we take away teams that only won once then only 3 clubs won majority of Premier League in those 16 years.  It doesn't seem to be a problem in soccer... but we in RL seem to get obsessed and want to level down rather than look to other clubs to improve to match the best.

 

PL also has Europe to play for, meaning top 4 is a real achievement and down to 7th or so often gets you into Europe, this means interest across more teams and positions, so not a fair comparison.

PL has many more teams and no loop fixtures meaning you don't get the over familiarity and the disinterest that comes with it 

Don't think anyone is asking for leveling down but they do want equal high standards to reduce repitition.

I do take your point, but don't feel it's comparing like for like. A more accurate comparison would be the NRL, but again there are differences there 

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On 10/10/2021 at 09:45, Bearman said:

 

I don't think it was a penalty try but there were some tough decisions against Catalan. It seems to me that there always are. As a neutral watching Catalan playing other teams I often think they seem to lose out on 50/50 decisions.

I can see why they may be a bit paranoid.

 

The officials made errors favouring both teams but Catalans got more than their fair share of 50:50 call go their way. The Makinson sin-bin was laughable given first contact was with the arm, especially when Yaha wasn't penalised at all when he slid in with the knees, no attempt to tackle with the arms and made direct contact with the head. If Makinson's was a sin-bin then Yaha should have been binned and Saints awarded an 8 point try.

The McIlorum deliberate trip early on in the game, thats at least a yellow card and over the years i've seen plenty of red cards given for this.

Both Maloney & Mata'utia could have been binned for their incident, Maloney for deliberately elbowing Mata'utia in the throat and him for retaliating with a punch.

McMeekan could have been binned for a swinging arm late on which made direct contact with Walmsley's head.

For all Gauche's whinging, Catalan players escaped further punishment for a fair few incidents in that game

 

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13 hours ago, David Dockhouse Host said:

PL also has Europe to play for, meaning top 4 is a real achievement and down to 7th or so often gets you into Europe, this means interest across more teams and positions, so not a fair comparison.

PL has many more teams and no loop fixtures meaning you don't get the over familiarity and the disinterest that comes with it 

Don't think anyone is asking for leveling down but they do want equal high standards to reduce repitition.

I do take your point, but don't feel it's comparing like for like. A more accurate comparison would be the NRL, but again there are differences there 

I agree with you regards the loop fixtures - for me a pain in the proverbial.

Lets not forgot with the PL why so many clubs can go onto Europe competition. Its the strength and success of the PL that they gain so entry positions from Eufa (or whomever is the authority nowadays.  PL was more like top 2 clubs, then top 3 to 4 and now a top 6 and slowly growing in whom can compete if not make the final step.  Although soccer is a different world their are lessons. Not least they could have took different measures to force more competitive scenario's like salary cap, limiting monies to the big clubs, etc etc... I am of the opinion that if they did the PL would not be so successful worldwide.

Anyway we are going off thread but to repeat if being top of a league structure means something abut the club being better than the other competition then 7 winners in 9 years tells us the competition is not as lop sided as some think.  That's not to say we don't have issues.

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