bobbruce Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said: What if the stadium you rent can’t accommodate Monday night games?? Or the stadium you own can’t get staff to open on a Monday night ?? We may have a loop hole here Would depend what the contract that’s been signed says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said: What if the stadium you rent can’t accommodate Monday night games?? Or the stadium you own can’t get staff to open on a Monday night ?? Then we'll see a 0-24, away walk over Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 minute ago, gingerjon said: Then we'll see a 0-24, away walk over Why? Especially if the clubs involved have agreed an alternate date ie 3pm Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said: Why? Especially if the clubs involved have agreed an alternate date ie 3pm Sunday If you don't turn up at the kick off time then the points go to the team that does. That's how it works. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said: Why? Especially if the clubs involved have agreed an alternate date ie 3pm Sunday Again it will come down to what contract you have signed but if we go off other TV contracts. Clubs are usually allowed to give certain dates at the start of the season where your ground won’t be available for various reasons (Weddings etc ). After that it’s then the clubs responsibility to find somewhere to hold the match even if that means away from their home ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 If this was about money for the clubs then they should let the Championship film every home and away games and allow clubs to sell packages to their fans for home/away livestreams and full match replays. If that was £10-15 per month for each club then if they could probably earn a lot more than the "potential" £6k they may or may not get. A club like Leigh, Bradford or Fev could probably get 1-2k subscribers - so £10-30k gross per month. Cumbrian clubs and London probably would get quite a few subscribers for away games alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 What is the worst outcome of this deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, Dave T said: What is the worst outcome of this deal? This thread? Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tms Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Scubby said: If this was about money for the clubs then they should let the Championship film every home and away games and allow clubs to sell packages to their fans for home/away livestreams and full match replays. If that was £10-15 per month for each club then if they could probably earn a lot more than the "potential" £6k they may or may not get. A club like Leigh, Bradford or Fev could probably get 1-2k subscribers - so £10-30k gross per month. Cumbrian clubs and London probably would get quite a few subscribers for away games alone. AR the minute FEV show all their games home and away full games and highlights starting Monday or Tuesday after the game on ROVERS TV for a monthly or yearly subscription with concessions for ST holders The Sky package prevented FEV from showing live streams but allowed live commentary will have to see if premier demand the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Dave T said: What is the worst outcome of this deal? That fans don’t buy season tickets due to 35% of home games being on the Monday evening, they then get out of the habit of funday Sundays and do something else. That sponsors don’t buy into Monday night corporate lash ups. That clubs shrink or die as a result this really is the poorest deal ever, if one of my Sales Managers brought this to me I would sack him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said: That fans don’t buy season tickets due to 35% of home games being on the Monday evening, they then get out of the habit of funday Sundays and do something else. That sponsors don’t buy into Monday night corporate lash ups. That clubs shrink or die as a result this really is the poorest deal ever, if one of my Sales Managers brought this to me I would sack him Who on earth is playing a third of their games on Mondays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 33 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: Who on earth is playing a third of their games on Mondays? Hopefully not London Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Just now, GUBRATS said: Hopefully not London Or anybody else! Good point though, has there been clarification on how many times a club is guaranteed to be on TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLANTISMAN Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 I still think that the Championship clubs would have been better of sticking with Our League and SKY for end of season games + the Big Bash which needs to be moved to York. My wife,s company used to provide the pitchside advertising for the Pro 14 on SKY as soon as it moved to Premier Sport the interest from clients dropped to almost zero which was a shame as the 2 Italian matches were a weekend of foodie bliss:) which we all miss especially the logistics boys. Premier Sport is a tough old sale however I wish the clubs and them well and hope it works out. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Given the geographical spread of the Championship , this a potentially a terrible deal , London , Newcastle , even Haven , Town and Barrow Stupidity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: Or anybody else! Good point though, has there been clarification on how many times a club is guaranteed to be on TV? In the Q&A with Martyn Sadler it’s stated there is a limit to how many times you get selected. I don’t think that number was shared though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Spidey said: In the Q&A with Martyn Sadler it’s stated there is a limit to how many times you get selected. I don’t think that number was shared though Home games , not away , so which teams are more suited to traveling 3/4 hours each way to a game on Monday night ? The full time ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Spidey said: In the Q&A with Martyn Sadler it’s stated there is a limit to how many times you get selected. I don’t think that number was shared though I suppose from a slightly different perspective I meant was there a minimum? Wasn't it something like at least 3 times On TV minimum or something in Super League, pre covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Just now, Tommygilf said: I suppose from a slightly different perspective I meant was there a minimum? Wasn't it something like at least 3 times On TV minimum or something in Super League, pre covid. Dunno. When the fixtures come out I guess we’ll have some indication Leigh are busy hiring out the LSV every Monday night apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrewthehaggis Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, ATLANTISMAN said: I still think that the Championship clubs would have been better of sticking with Our League and SKY for end of season games + the Big Bash which needs to be moved to York. My wife,s company used to provide the pitchside advertising for the Pro 14 on SKY as soon as it moved to Premier Sport the interest from clients dropped to almost zero which was a shame as the 2 Italian matches were a weekend of foodie bliss:) which we all miss especially the logistics boys. Premier Sport is a tough old sale however I wish the clubs and them well and hope it works out. Paul By the way I have a mate who does the pitchside ads for UEFA. Deeply envious. I digress. It is not the case that Pro 14/16 supporters in Wales lament that Premier took over from the beeb as first it is ######, but mainly as it was felt it disappeared down a black hole? I see that some games this season have returned to the BBC as well as on S4C. Unless Premier can demonstrates a profit for clubs, I reckon it will quickly be dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 33 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: Or anybody else! Good point though, has there been clarification on how many times a club is guaranteed to be on TV? It wouldn't surprise me if Leigh or Fev do get close to a third Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Think the limit is 5 home games, are there 13 home games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Dave T said: Think the limit is 5 home games, are there 13 home games? But no mention of away games , who will they send to London , and Newcastle ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 minute ago, GUBRATS said: But no mention of away games , who will they send to London , and Newcastle ? Will you renew your season ticket? I won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Harry Stottle said: Will you renew your season ticket? I won't. What difference does away games make to your ST Harry ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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