Hopping Mad Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 https://www.raidersrugbyleague.co.uk/post/wigan-warriors-superstar-flower-joins-the-coaching-team-at-the-raiders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalMrC Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 What's the appointment as it doesn't say. I assume head coach? If so that's some coup for the Raiders. He'll no doubt be able to attract some players to the club too potentially 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynebennettswinger Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Outrageous use of the term ‘superstar’ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clwydianrange Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Playing, coaching or both it’s a great signing by Raiders. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshmagpie Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Raiders love an awful press release, more questions than answers here. Is the head coach search still ongoing? Is Flower helping out as an assistant? What about Pontypool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshmagpie Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 minute ago, clwydianrange said: Playing, coaching or both it’s a great signing by Raiders. Above all, this. Can only be positive. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leytherz Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 hes a legend in leigh as well.funny it doesnt mention that in the report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whippet13 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Badly worded statement, but I suspect he has just joined as a "name" for now to help attract players and they will see what emerges over the off season in terms of the coaching team and his appetite to get involved with the club. Best news from this announcement is that, despite the central funding cuts, it appears the Raiders aren't going away. That will disappoint some within the game but I'll be delighted if they keep going. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelic Cynic Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 They don't seem to learn - even after the roaring success of Chase and Henson. Flower seems reliable - signs on at Pontypool- then leaves before their campaign starts https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/mylocalnews/torfaen/pontypool/19608887.former-rugby-league-star-ben-flower-signs-pontypool-rfc/ Perhaps the decision should have been left to whoever is appointed as head coach. No reserves,but resilience,persistence and determination are omnipotent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalMrC Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, welshmagpie said: Raiders love an awful press release, more questions than answers here. Is the head coach search still ongoing? Is Flower helping out as an assistant? What about Pontypool? My thoughts too, it's not very clear what he will be doing. And if it isn't the head coach position what will the new head coach think about having him on board? Edited October 9, 2021 by OriginalMrC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleEyePie Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 On 09/10/2021 at 10:49, Angelic Cynic said: They don't seem to learn - even after the roaring success of Chase and Henson. Flower seems reliable - signs on at Pontypool- then leaves before their campaign starts https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/mylocalnews/torfaen/pontypool/19608887.former-rugby-league-star-ben-flower-signs-pontypool-rfc/ Perhaps the decision should have been left to whoever is appointed as head coach. Where was it announced that he's already left Pontypool? That link shows he's signed for them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearNothing Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 If he's there to help them play, fair enough. If he's there to teach them to fight then he needs to do one (again....) cru....Cru.....CRUSADERS!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentoffagain2 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Ben needs to play because he enjoys playing.respect your opponent but try to beat him over 80 min.Then when the game is over forget it have a pint with the opposition and realise how good it is to play for fun not money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 On 09/10/2021 at 06:40, leytherz said: hes a legend in leigh as well.funny it doesnt mention that in the report That’s right, this thread (like all others) is really about Leigh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 On 09/10/2021 at 10:49, Angelic Cynic said: They don't seem to learn - even after the roaring success of Chase and Henson. Flower seems reliable - signs on at Pontypool- then leaves before their campaign starts https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/mylocalnews/torfaen/pontypool/19608887.former-rugby-league-star-ben-flower-signs-pontypool-rfc/ Perhaps the decision should have been left to whoever is appointed as head coach. I expect he’ll play part time for Pontypool and assist coaching West Wales Raiders part time when he’s not playing or training with them. It’s a shame League One clubs like West Wales Raiders don’t have the funding to sign the likes of Flower as a player coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalMrC Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 34 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: I expect he’ll play part time for Pontypool and assist coaching West Wales Raiders part time when he’s not playing or training with them. It’s a shame League One clubs like West Wales Raiders don’t have the funding to sign the likes of Flower as a player coach. West Wales could easily afford him as a player coach. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if he's had his head turned by a higher offer than he would get at Pontypool. They were paying an eye watering amount of money to Rangi Chase. Money is not an issue for West Wales, its getting players to relocate to play there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, OriginalMrC said: West Wales could easily afford him as a player coach. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if he's had his head turned by a higher offer than he would get at Pontypool. They were paying an eye watering amount of money to Rangi Chase. Money is not an issue for West Wales, its getting players to relocate to play there. Do you know they have in terms of a youth set up or women’s team, or do they put most of their money into the first team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint 1 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, Eddie said: Do you know they have in terms of a youth set up or women’s team, or do they put most of their money into the first team? They have their roots as an amateur club and I think have kept their junior age groups (under the badge Llanelli Knights), I think in Wales there might actually be organised junior leagues at u12s/u14s/u16s, or at least has been relatively recently. I vaguely remember seeing some of their juniors go on to selection for Wales u16s/u18s. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalMrC Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 31 minutes ago, Eddie said: Do you know they have in terms of a youth set up or women’s team, or do they put most of their money into the first team? As far as I know only a link up with the local uni. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manx RL Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Punching below his weight again - Adepto Successu Per Tributum Fuga - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshmagpie Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 On 11/10/2021 at 11:38, Eddie said: Do you know they have in terms of a youth set up or women’s team, or do they put most of their money into the first team? WRL run varying junior leagues at U10s, U13s, U15s and U17s. West Wales Raiders an additional layer above this that junior players feed into e.g Charley Bodman as a recent example. The Raiders look after Gwaebdraeth Valley Raiders as they’re Llanelli based but they’re by far the worst run junior club in South Wales - it’s run the same way that WWR we’re run in the early days, last minute and very ad hoc. Ill be honest whenever I see him… there’s a man involved at Raiders and also their partnered Uni and the Gwaendraeth club who is an utterly awful administrator. I’ve actually given him constructive criticism on social media recently regarding WWR’s awful website and social media graphics. For a club so awash with cash, they neglect their most accessible shop window. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clogdance Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Good luck to Ben Flower, he was amazing in the 5 games he played for us last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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