georgeb1 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Surely if the date for the bash is confirmed a venue must also have been , as for premier sports , that's been sold as including the bash fixtures . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POR Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 1 hour ago, georgeb1 said: Surely if the date for the bash is confirmed a venue must also have been , as for premier sports , that's been sold as including the bash fixtures . True G according to them Saturday 30th July Championship Summer Bash - TBC Time FreeSports Championship Summer Bash - TBC Time FreeSports Championship Summer Bash - TBC Time FreeSports Sunday 31st July Championship Summer Bash - TBC Time FreeSports Championship Summer Bash - TBC Time FreeSports Championship Summer Bash - TBC Time FreeSports Time Match to be Confirmed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 1 hour ago, POR said: True G according to them Saturday 30th July Championship Summer Bash - TBC Time FreeSports Championship Summer Bash - TBC Time FreeSports Championship Summer Bash - TBC Time FreeSports Sunday 31st July Championship Summer Bash - TBC Time FreeSports Championship Summer Bash - TBC Time FreeSports Championship Summer Bash - TBC Time FreeSports Time Match to be Confirmed Six games ? Who's not playing ? "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 8 hours ago, georgeb1 said: Surely if the date for the bash is confirmed a venue must also have been , as for premier sports , that's been sold as including the bash fixtures . I was under the impression the clubs hadn’t voted on the deal just given the agreement to discuss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeb1 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 2 hours ago, sweaty craiq said: I was under the impression the clubs hadn’t voted on the deal just given the agreement to discuss? Could that be the reason club's like mine have not contacted their season ticket holders yet with the discounted deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 1 hour ago, georgeb1 said: Could that be the reason club's like mine have not contacted their season ticket holders yet with the discounted deal. Could be but personally can’t see who would agree to it bearing in mind the slashing of central funds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NERugbyDad Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Thunder announce Lewis Peachey on season long loan from Castleford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Horseman Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Hull FC and Bradford announce a DR partnership. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, The Phantom Horseman said: Hull FC and Bradford announce a DR partnership. Embarrassing for the comp that most of the perceived top clubs have resorted to DR instead of building their own squads,Superleague ready 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Taylor Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 What do Bradford Bulls actually bring to the game? 2 2008 RFL Wakefield & District Young Volunteer of the Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, Davo5 said: Embarrassing for the comp that most of the perceived top clubs have resorted to DR instead of building their own squads,Superleague ready Indeed SL1 and SL2 2x10 would be basically a second tier or DR and SL academy players as they are few outside SL on full time contracts. DR to try and get promotion really papers over the cracks 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) We found it completely counterproductive and more trouble than it was worth . It’s a crutch to lean on but it can be kicked away and doesn’t really do any good . It’s very shortsighted and seems mainly for the SL outfit’s benefit . It should be outlawed as it also distorts the lower league .I don’t mind a small number of long term loans to bed into a squad , but overall stand on your own two feet and let’s see where everyone is at the end Edited December 15, 2021 by DavidM 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 26 minutes ago, DavidM said: We found it completely counterproductive and more trouble than it was worth . It’s a crutch to lean on but it can be kicked away and doesn’t really do any good . It’s very shortsighted and seems mainly for the SL outfit’s benefit . It should be outlawed as it also distorts the lower league .I don’t mind a small number of long term loans to bed into a squad , but overall stand on your own two feet and let’s see where everyone is at the end Exactly the competition should be decided by the best team,not the one with the best DR arrangement. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Davo5 said: Embarrassing for the comp that most of the perceived top clubs have resorted to DR instead of building their own squads,Superleague ready I don’t like it. The DR scheme is open to exploitation and IMO that is what will happen. The loan system is at least a minimum term. DR is written up in the operational rules iirc as a pathway for young players so what it the Reserves league for? I thought DR was being done away with and cannot think why this change in tack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, DavidM said: We found it completely counterproductive and more trouble than it was worth . It’s a crutch to lean on but it can be kicked away and doesn’t really do any good . It’s very shortsighted and seems mainly for the SL outfit’s benefit . It should be outlawed as it also distorts the lower league .I don’t mind a small number of long term loans to bed into a squad , but overall stand on your own two feet and let’s see where everyone is at the end Agree with this. Come pre Championship play offs, expect teams to be DRing up to the max to rest their best first team players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Horseman Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) Leigh sign former NRL grand finalist and Samoa/Tonga international John Asiata, who was cut from the Canterbury Bulldogs before playing a game for them after refusing to receive a Covid vaccine.Certainly another huge name for the Champiosnhip. Edited December 15, 2021 by The Phantom Horseman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Phantom Horseman said: Leigh sign former NRL grand finalist and Samoa/Tonga international John Asiata, who was cut from the Canterbury Bulldogs before playing a game for them after refusing to receive a Covid vaccine.Certainly another huge name for the Champiosnhip. Now that is a major signing , he’s skilled and very versatile . I’m surprised he’s not got a SL pick up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 I get it from Hull’s point of view. While the return of the reserves is ultimately a very positive step, the standard at Bradford and in the Championship is going to higher than that of the reserve grade so it may be better to have some playing at that level rather than at reserve grade. That said, I don’t really know the loan rules we have at the minute in the game but short term loans, of say a minimum of 14 days, would be more preferable than dual reg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 23 minutes ago, Jughead said: I get it from Hull’s point of view. While the return of the reserves is ultimately a very positive step, the standard at Bradford and in the Championship is going to higher than that of the reserve grade so it may be better to have some playing at that level rather than at reserve grade. That said, I don’t really know the loan rules we have at the minute in the game but short term loans, of say a minimum of 14 days, would be more preferable than dual reg. Loans are 28 days iirc. DR can be arranged at a minimum of 7.5 hours (for a Thursday game) and can be just 1 game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Horseman Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lowdesert said: Loans are 28 days iirc. 14 days now, and can then be extended on a week-by-week basis. Last year because of Covid even the 14-day minimum was removed, resulting in instances such as when Jordan Baldwinson (then at York) signed on loan for Bradford, played for them 2 days later, then played for York 7 days later. Apart from that initial 14-day period, there's not much difference between loans and DR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binosh Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Asiata is a very skilful ball player and a great pick up for a Championship club especially on a 2 year deal and only 28 years old. Very exciting player that is a real old school loose forward. I’m glad to see this time round the club have picked up young imports rather than older names. Him & Amone could be a devastating pair in the Championship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, The Phantom Horseman said: 14 days now, and can then be extended on a week-by-week basis. Last year because of Covid even the 14-day minimum was removed, resulting in instances such as when Jordan Baldwinson (then at York) signed on loan for Bradford, played for them 2 days later, then played for York 7 days later. Apart from that initial 14-day period, there's not much difference between loans and DR. Cheers mate. I think the 28 days will still remain in the ORs though but as you say, Covid! Yes, the main difference is the time factor but the reason for DR is clear enough in the OP Rules and that it is to provide a pathway for young players. Clearly it isn’t used for that all the time. Edited December 15, 2021 by Lowdesert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Horseman Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 54 minutes ago, The Phantom Horseman said: Leigh sign former NRL grand finalist and Samoa/Tonga international John Asiata, who was cut from the Canterbury Bulldogs before playing a game for them after refusing to receive a Covid vaccine.Certainly another huge name for the Champiosnhip. Interesting to see how they got round the new "statement of intent" ruling from the RFL board, issued two months ago. I somehow doubt a statement of intent has been lodged for Asiata, so has this guideline been shelved? Clubs have been urged to encourage their players to ensure full vaccination by the end of 2021. In some cases - for example new overseas players, younger players, or those with recent Covid infections - a "statement of intent" would be accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonM Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Chris Taylor said: What do Bradford Bulls actually bring to the game? Biggest fanbase in the championship (and bigger than much of SL)? An academy side that's in with the SL academy teams in 2022? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Horseman Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Just now, Lowdesert said: Cheers mate. I think the 28 days will still remain in the ORs though but as you say, Covid! Yes, the main difference is the time factor but the reason for DR is clear enough in the OP Rules and that it is to provide a pathway for young players. Clearly it isn’t used for that. It's been confirmed that the minimum recall time for loans will again be 14 days this year. Completely agree re DR should be for younger players, I have suggested before on here that some sort of guideline of, say, under 22/23 years old or fewer than 20 SL games, or similar, should apply. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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