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I stayed in Vegas’ smaller relative, Reno, in the late 80s. We slept in a camper van in a dodgy car park that had on street prostitutes. I’m not sure if one of us had a gun or not … too far back for my memory.

I suspect Vegas offers a much more glamorous experience!

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10 hours ago, Copa said:

I stayed in Vegas’ smaller relative, Reno, in the late 80s. We slept in a camper van in a dodgy car park that had on street prostitutes. I’m not sure if one of us had a gun or not … too far back for my memory.

I suspect Vegas offers a much more glamorous experience!

Reno is horrible.

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Mrs Shadow and I stayed in Vegas for a week in 2012, we used it as a base to go to other points of interest, in the same way as JonM described. Hoover Dam, Death Valley, Grand Canyon all well worth a visit.

Vegas itself, a bit .... meh. Glad we've been, box ticked but still .... meh.

The "Sin City" thing is very much a sanitised version, it felt like a film set rather than an actual den of iniquity. That said we did only go to fairly mainstream locations, whether the Hustler Casino floorshow is anymore "Adult themed" than the Venetian or MGM Grand I couldn't tell you.
We have both said if we went back we'd probaby go for the full Vegas show, Girls, Feathers, Glitter and Boobs rather than the Motown themed show we went to, maybe one of the main headline acts like the Blue Man Group or Elton John. The show felt like a production line rather than a theatrical production, I've no idea whether one of the headline acts would be the same but when its twice a day and three times on Saturday I suspect it could get stale.

The restaurants were long on "all you can eat" and "The widest selection of international cuisine" without paying too much attention to flavour or quality.

That said, there are opportunities to see some amazing acts, I seem to recall Elton John, Celine Dion and Jenna Jameson were all headlining at different establishments. I have no idea who Jenna Jameson is but I'm advised not to google her on a work computer. The casinos all offer gambling lessons for the uninitated, we went to play Craps and at one point I was $600 up, of course I left with nothing but t was an entertaining evening for us both for $100 invested.

I took a certain delight in driving my Dodge Charger along the strip with "Viva Las Vegas" playing on the sound system at level 11 and for that alone it was worth the trip, although Mrs Shadow may dsagree. 

If you go it's not a place to skimp on, it's designed to empty your wallet at the fastest possible rate and as long as there's money to spend it's entertaining. I imagine Vegas on no money would be a dismal place.

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22 hours ago, Shadow said:

I imagine Vegas on no money would be a dismal place.

I went with my mate Tony, when we were in our early twenties. Drove from LA, through the desert, stopping to take photos of cacti and all that. One night stop over in Vegas, then carry on to the Grand Canyon, with the plan to walk down to the bottom and back out again (which everyone says not to do because it's dangerous but we were young and stupid).

He was famously careful with his money, so he said he was going to put only one quarter in a slot machine, just to be able to say he'd gambled in Las Vegas. His quarter won him two dollars. He spent one dollar on a lottery ticket for a sports car (not sure how he planned to get the car back to Plymouth) and kept the other, thus meaning that he'd made 75 cents profit. Or as he likes to put it - I quadrupled my money when I gambled in Vegas.

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On 26/10/2021 at 12:08, Shadow said:

Mrs Shadow and I stayed in Vegas for a week in 2012, we used it as a base to go to other points of interest, in the same way as JonM described. Hoover Dam, Death Valley, Grand Canyon all well worth a visit.

Vegas itself, a bit .... meh. Glad we've been, box ticked but still .... meh.

The "Sin City" thing is very much a sanitised version, it felt like a film set rather than an actual den of iniquity. That said we did only go to fairly mainstream locations, whether the Hustler Casino floorshow is anymore "Adult themed" than the Venetian or MGM Grand I couldn't tell you.
We have both said if we went back we'd probaby go for the full Vegas show, Girls, Feathers, Glitter and Boobs rather than the Motown themed show we went to, maybe one of the main headline acts like the Blue Man Group or Elton John. The show felt like a production line rather than a theatrical production, I've no idea whether one of the headline acts would be the same but when its twice a day and three times on Saturday I suspect it could get stale.

The restaurants were long on "all you can eat" and "The widest selection of international cuisine" without paying too much attention to flavour or quality.

That said, there are opportunities to see some amazing acts, I seem to recall Elton John, Celine Dion and Jenna Jameson were all headlining at different establishments. I have no idea who Jenna Jameson is but I'm advised not to google her on a work computer. The casinos all offer gambling lessons for the uninitated, we went to play Craps and at one point I was $600 up, of course I left with nothing but t was an entertaining evening for us both for $100 invested.

I took a certain delight in driving my Dodge Charger along the strip with "Viva Las Vegas" playing on the sound system at level 11 and for that alone it was worth the trip, although Mrs Shadow may dsagree. 

If you go it's not a place to skimp on, it's designed to empty your wallet at the fastest possible rate and as long as there's money to spend it's entertaining. I imagine Vegas on no money would be a dismal place.

All the acts were dreadful when we were there and we happily avoided them all.

We did not see a show, did not gamble and do not regret that.

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2 minutes ago, Bob8 said:

All the acts were dreadful when we were there and we happily avoided them all.

We did not see a show, did not gamble and do not regret that.

who were the acts?

did the bloke who invented the phrase "one hit wonder" invent anything else?

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3 hours ago, graveyard johnny said:

who were the acts?

Barry Manilow was the big name, though wife had no idea who he was.

Then it was a woman magician, who was not worth seeings (we confirmed on YouTube) and other who were only famous inasmuch as they told us they were.

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15 hours ago, Bob8 said:

Barry Manilow was the big name, though wife had no idea who he was.

Then it was a woman magician, who was not worth seeings (we confirmed on YouTube) and other who were only famous inasmuch as they told us they were.

I had to explain to a young student who Rod Stewart is..... she'd no idea.... he had~has an LA residency I hear.

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What a miserable lot.

Been about 15 times.

It is what it is. There is something for everyone.

Now they have the NHL franchise, which I usually see a game or two, an NFL team and also its the home of the UFC - so plenty of top grade sport. Also decent fight nights.

Went a few years back for UFC 200 which had 3 fight nights prior to the main event as well. Good times.

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7 minutes ago, Leonard said:

What a miserable lot.

Been about 15 times.

It is what it is. There is something for everyone.

Now they have the NHL franchise, which I usually see a game or two, an NFL team and also its the home of the UFC - so plenty of top grade sport. Also decent fight nights.

Went a few years back for UFC 200 which had 3 fight nights prior to the main event as well. Good times.

for many on here it isn't within 15 mins of a junction on the m62- so its not worth going!

did the bloke who invented the phrase "one hit wonder" invent anything else?

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Well - that was my thought too.

Add in it is "American" so a bit of passive anti American sentiment is fine.

Top place - would have gone to the Fury fight as well but for the quarantine rules.

Life and places are what you make of them.

2 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said:

for many on here it isn't within 15 mins of a junction on the m62- so its not worth going!

 

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On 29/10/2021 at 17:15, Leonard said:

Well - that was my thought too.

Add in it is "American" so a bit of passive anti American sentiment is fine.

Top place - would have gone to the Fury fight as well but for the quarantine rules.

Life and places are what you make of them.

 

The best boxing gym I went to was in Vegas.

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On 29/10/2021 at 16:15, Leonard said:

Well - that was my thought too.

Add in it is "American" so a bit of passive anti American sentiment is fine.

Top place - would have gone to the Fury fight as well but for the quarantine rules.

Life and places are what you make of them.

I've been to 70+ countries and more than half the states in the US, would still put Vegas right near the bottom of places to visit 🙂 It's Blackpool or Yarmouth with a lot more money and a lot less taste.

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51 minutes ago, JonM said:

I've been to 70+ countries and more than half the states in the US, would still put Vegas right near the bottom of places to visit 🙂 It's Blackpool or Yarmouth with a lot more money and a lot less taste.

Rick Steves actually recommends Blackpool to American visitors, for the cultural experience of Britain with no class. It would be the same recommendation the other way, with a lot more money and equally litte taste.

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As a kid in the early 70's Blackpool to me was an exciting place to be taken.

The lights, noise, all the people.

Last time I was in Blackpool, around the time the Manics album was released, It was a poor imitation of what it once was. Vegas is the money rich substance poor twin town.

 

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12 hours ago, voteronniegibbs said:

As a kid in the early 70's Blackpool to me was an exciting place to be taken.

The lights, noise, all the people.

Last time I was in Blackpool, around the time the Manics album was released, It was a poor imitation of what it once was. Vegas is the money rich substance poor twin town.

 

When I was a young un in the 70’s we used to have a week in Blackpool for the illuminations and a week in Scarborough in August …. my dad must have found a lump of gold down t’Glasshoughton pit for us to have two holidays!

Although Blackpool looked great with illuminations the advertisers got in spot on when they claimed ‘Blackpool is all front’ because one street away from the front it is a dump.  So Scarborough won hands down for me.  Even into my forties whenever we visited with my daughters we would park on Valley Road - close to the digs where we stayed as kids - and I would still get the same excited rush when we walked under the ‘blue bridge’ before the South Bay came into view.  Great, great memories!

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