Wellsy4HullFC Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Well, it's the off-season...! Would a second club somewhere in the North East be beneficial to the growth of Newcastle or hinder it? I've always been of the opinion that a local rivalry is a great way to help build up interest in a sport and it isn't the sharing of resources that people often make out. Where in the North East would be a good home for a second pro club if someone were to invest? Sunderland? Middleborough? Darlington? Is league making any strides in these areas? I know there are World Cup games scheduled in Middleborough. Is there legacy strategy there? Is there a strategy at all!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Just now, Wellsy4HullFC said: Well, it's the off-season...! Would a second club somewhere in the North East be beneficial to the growth of Newcastle or hinder it? I've always been of the opinion that a local rivalry is a great way to help build up interest in a sport and it isn't the sharing of resources that people often make out. Why? 1 minute ago, Wellsy4HullFC said: Where in the North East would be a good home for a second pro club if someone were to invest? Sunderland? Middleborough? Darlington? Is league making any strides in these areas? I know there are World Cup games scheduled in Middleborough. Is there legacy strategy there? Is there a strategy at all!? Aye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrewthehaggis Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Surely "Why aye man." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theswanmcr Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Not much other RL Presence nearby at the minute and you can’t magic it out of thin air. Best you can hope for is that the World Cup will bring more interest in Teeside for a potential future rivalry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whippet13 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Clubs can feed off each other definitely, but to create a proper rivalry you need some sort of history built by two teams playing each other over time. Given Newcastle are now seriously eyeing up a SL spot it would be a number of years before any Middlesbrough or whatever team could get to their level. Look at Broncos and Skolars for example, both clubs have been there for years but have zero rivalry as they never play against each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Est Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 "A 2nd pro club"??? There isn't even 1. Newcastle have literally just contracted a small handful of guys on professional contracts for the first time. As a club, they still train at night, and their players work during the day. 2 fully professional teams in the North East is the usual deluded fantasy stuff. It will never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Wellsy4HullFC said: Well, it's the off-season...! Would a second club somewhere in the North East be beneficial to the growth of Newcastle or hinder it? I've always been of the opinion that a local rivalry is a great way to help build up interest in a sport and it isn't the sharing of resources that people often make out. Where in the North East would be a good home for a second pro club if someone were to invest? Sunderland? Middleborough? Darlington? Is league making any strides in these areas? I know there are World Cup games scheduled in Middleborough. Is there legacy strategy there? Is there a strategy at all!? North or South Shields for me as my grandparents were from there. Both are perfect small towns for league clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Middlesbrough could be, maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Est Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Niels said: North or South Shields Both are perfect small towns for league clubs "Perfect" how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 I’ve heard Newcastle United’s new owners are planning to set up the Newcastle Magpies and play at St James’ Park - perfect rivalry for Thunder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Shepherd Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 10 hours ago, Wellsy4HullFC said: Well, it's the off-season...! Would a second club somewhere in the North East be beneficial to the growth of Newcastle or hinder it? I've always been of the opinion that a local rivalry is a great way to help build up interest in a sport and it isn't the sharing of resources that people often make out. Where in the North East would be a good home for a second pro club if someone were to invest? Sunderland? Middleborough? Darlington? Is league making any strides in these areas? I know there are World Cup games scheduled in Middleborough. Is there legacy strategy there? Is there a strategy at all!? We could maybe send Hull back up to Gateshead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookey Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 I'd be happy just to get Newcastle and York into SL and get rid of some of the dead wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 11 hours ago, Wellsy4HullFC said: Well, it's the off-season...! Would a second club somewhere in the North East be beneficial to the growth of Newcastle or hinder it? I've always been of the opinion that a local rivalry is a great way to help build up interest in a sport and it isn't the sharing of resources that people often make out. Where in the North East would be a good home for a second pro club if someone were to invest? Sunderland? Middleborough? Darlington? Is league making any strides in these areas? I know there are World Cup games scheduled in Middleborough. Is there legacy strategy there? Is there a strategy at all!? I thought we were going for Plymouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 2 hours ago, cookey said: I'd be happy just to get Newcastle and York into SL and get rid of some of the dead wood. If they fall the same way as London, Toronto, who I both liked, we will be glad of the "dead wood". We need to promote expansion and also look after our established clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 11 hours ago, Grand Est said: "A 2nd pro club"??? There isn't even 1. Newcastle have literally just contracted a small handful of guys on professional contracts for the first time. As a club, they still train at night, and their players work during the day. 2 fully professional teams in the North East is the usual deluded fantasy stuff. It will never happen. Only you have changed the point to "fully professional" in order to deride. Nobody mentioned full time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsontown Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Darlington could actually be worth a shout. 30 mins from York by train and about the same from Newcastle. Local population who are interested in sport but don't have too much to watch (Darlington FC playing in tier 6, a couple of RU sides), not far from areas with established player pools and infrastructure. Probably no ground they could realistically use though, unless one of the RU teams fancied breaking the habits of 126 years and sharing (and Darlington FC already share with one of them). Obviously I can't see it ever happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 3 hours ago, David Shepherd said: We could maybe send Hull back up to Gateshead After last season, it'd be nice to start with a fresh team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Lowdesert said: I thought we were going for Plymouth? It's a bit far from the North East... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 minute ago, wilsontown said: Darlington could actually be worth a shout. 30 mins from York by train and about the same from Newcastle. Local population who are interested in sport but don't have too much to watch (Darlington FC playing in tier 6, a couple of RU sides), not far from areas with established player pools and infrastructure. Probably no ground they could realistically use though, unless one of the RU teams fancied breaking the habits of 126 years and sharing (and Darlington FC already share with one of them). Obviously I can't see it ever happening. Isn’t there that massive stadium by the A1 that the safe breaker chap built? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 2 hours ago, cookey said: I'd be happy just to get Newcastle and York into SL and get rid of some of the dead wood. To do that they just need to win the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Wellsy4HullFC said: It's a bit far from the North East... I'm a builder. It was an estimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsontown Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Eddie said: Isn’t there that massive stadium by the A1 that the safe breaker chap built? Currently being used by Darlington Mowden Park RU, but apparently RL has been played there as Gateshead took on Oldham in a challenge cup game in 2009... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Darlington_Arena Unlikely to need 25,500 capacity for the first decade or so, I'd have thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Est Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Wellsy4HullFC said: Only you have changed the point to "fully professional" in order to deride. Nobody mentioned full time. Calling teams "professional" who train 1 or 2 nights a week and work as rooofers or plasterers is laughable. They are not professional players. Thinking that they are, is one of the many things that holds the game back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barley Mow Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 3 hours ago, wilsontown said: Currently being used by Darlington Mowden Park RU, but apparently RL has been played there as Gateshead took on Oldham in a challenge cup game in 2009... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Darlington_Arena Unlikely to need 25,500 capacity for the first decade or so, I'd have thought It doesn't stop the union club playing in it in front of crowds in the hundreds! It is a pretty ridiculous situation when most of the teams they play against have a field and clubhouse type set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelic Cynic Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 14 hours ago, Niels said: North or South Shields for me as my grandparents were from there. Both are perfect small towns for league clubs Tried and failed;well,started and finished. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Shields_(rugby_league) No reserves,but resilience,persistence and determination are omnipotent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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