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25 minutes ago, Griff said:

What is ?

Are you saying gate sharing only happens in Rugby League ?🥺

It was a tongue in cheek reference to those who slate RL for things that happen in many other sports too. 

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5 minutes ago, Dave T said:

I agree with the principal of this - one of the big problems though, and for me a key reason why people don't buy into this vision, is that we have very few examples of it happening. Almost without exception the newer expansion clubs either go belly up or end up propping up the bottom tier.

That isn't to say they aren't adding value, but we need to see more expansion (or call them non-UK heartland) teams doing well - the French teams are helping, and Newcastle continuing to grow would be a real positive. 

But to the average RL fan they see a huge list of failures and it is easy for them to say people are not interested. It's one of the reasons I'd have supported London over every other project we have done. 

I agree, but getting the funding for UK teams (i was going to say non-heartlands but its difficult there too) is exceptionally difficult and there appears to be few incentives for anyone inclined to do so.

Its a sad predicament that our most successful clubs at attracting interest have been from different countries altogether.

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3 minutes ago, Dave T said:

But road and rail isn't free, you pay for that just like a plane. 

The cost is substantially higher than every other game, that's why costs are relevant. Now its your prerogative to say tough, but I think its equally valid for those paying the bills to push back.

I don't think it is necessarily fair for the RFL to just palm of the costs of expansion on the existing clubs. 

The only exceptional thing about it is the distance, no flights, no abnormal away day activities. You do exactly what you would for a normal away fixture only for longer. If we took it to the reductive level no away game that couldn't be walked to would ever be played.

I would agree with your final sentence save for saying "existing league 1 clubs". Though even then there is significant question marks over where is acceptable for a new club to come in and at what level?

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So, I think I have got the gist of this thread.

Just like when I was a kid, it's a really long way to Cornwall but you only have to drive there once a year and you will have fun when you get there.

It's just a case of 17 Rugby League players and the club staff saying "are we there yet?" from Stoke onwards.

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1 hour ago, gingerjon said:

The way it works in the Vase is that the home team pays for the travel of the away team (out of the gate receipts) and, after that, any gate revenue is shared.

So the travelling side is not out of pocket.

From my travels with Buckland Athletic in the vase i believe its the price of a coach for the team & 90% help with cost buy filling the empty seats with fans.

 

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13 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

The only exceptional thing about it is the distance, no flights, no abnormal away day activities. You do exactly what you would for a normal away fixture only for longer. If we took it to the reductive level no away game that couldn't be walked to would ever be played.

I would agree with your final sentence save for saying "existing league 1 clubs". Though even then there is significant question marks over where is acceptable for a new club to come in and at what level?

Indeed. Keighley (I'm not sure why everyone is using Keighley as the standard but I may as well) to Penryn takes a little under 2 hours more than it does from Keighley to Llanelli. Many of those costs will be pretty much the same and certainly wont be hugely more. Yes coach hire will be a bit more but all in all we are not talking about hugely more expense. Selling the coach trip to fans could even offset extra costs.

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10 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

So, I think I have got the gist of this thread.

Just like when I was a kid, it's a really long way to Cornwall but you only have to drive there once a year and you will have fun when you get there.

It's just a case of 17 Rugby League players and the club staff saying "are we there yet?" from Stoke onwards.

And a fantastic booze up on the way back!

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1 minute ago, Damien said:

And a fantastic booze up on the way back!

Nah, my dad was very strict about that  no booze in the car until I was 12.

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1 minute ago, Dunbar said:

Nah, my dad was very strict about that  no booze in the car until I was 12.

so you could take over the driving when he passed out leathered?

did the bloke who invented the phrase "one hit wonder" invent anything else?

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1 hour ago, Exiled red said:

If there's 500k rugby loving people already in Cornwall, why can't they muster up a top flight union side and build a relatively low cost 10k capacity stadium.

Easy answer because the Rugby Union lot don't want to share with Truro City, certain people over the years have kicked up a fuss about building the stadium & if you come from the Cornwall & Devon area you will be aware of who these people are who have held up the stadium always in the papers & likes of spotlight (BBC)

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1 minute ago, graveyard johnny said:

so you could take over the driving when he passed out leathered?

Is that you dad?

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12 minutes ago, Damien said:

Indeed. Keighley (I'm not sure why everyone is using Keighley as the standard .....

Is it because Keighley are the most northerly team in Division 3 ?

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Sure I’ve read this somewhere before…

Perez said: "Moving to Cornwall makes it a truly national sport. Cornwall and the north of England are extremely similar places, with its culture and industrial history. The class system is not there. It’s a rugby league place waiting to happen. There’s a massive untapped talent resource there because everybody in Cornwall picks up an oval ball.
I have three goals. Old Trafford, build up RL across Cornwall and have Cornish players playing for England. There are no professional summer sports in Cornwall. That makes us a tourist attraction. In Cornwall we can actually make an impact. The project is fully financed, with the money that was going into Ottawa having been diverted to Cornwall. The squad will initially be part-time". Perez is confident he can win over the doubters when he presents his plan to a meeting of Championship and League 1 clubs on Wednesday.
"We’re going to build this sustainably over time. I personally would like to be in Super League within seven to 10 years. There is already a lot of grassroots activity which we will be supporting and the Cornish Rebels are going to be a feeder club".

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11 hours ago, Tommygilf said:

What bad publicity though? Literally nobody batted an eyelid at any of the failed Southern expansion teams demises. It doesn't register on either their own local radar or even to the broader RL radar except maybe briefly because of the publicity (or rather lack of) devoted to League 1.

Nobody loses here. Either Cornwall are a success and RL has a new home in the South West, or they fail and RL has spent virtually nothing save a bit of time in a club that barely registered whilst someone else has spent their own money, whilst leaving a number of people with a new interest in RL.

I find the "bad publicity" argument naïve at best, disingenuous at worst. I take no notice because the same criticisms are levelled at seemingly everyone who wasn't there in 1960 and tried to join since; including might I add, Sheffield and Manchester.

I don't actually blame some of the existing clubs for this, we're asking a lot of very small organisations and indeed asking them to operate way beyond their current capabilities. But if you keep asking the people who can't why you shouldn't then you'll get the same responses.

Funny that. I know loads of people who don’t follow rl cos they think it’s A joke

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sometimes you have to take a step backwards to move forward

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9 hours ago, Johnoco said:

Let's phrase that another way.

Why do clubs who have achieved pretty much nothing since the formation of the Northern Union and bring very little to the table apart from sentimentality, have the power to drag the game down to their level? 

Woah woah woah !!! Assume your talking about Huntley and keighley there. Both denied access to the promised land. Oldham and swinton were also big names from yesteryear

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sometimes you have to take a step backwards to move forward

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6 hours ago, Johnoco said:

After the split in 1906, the soccer side of Bradford FC, Bradford Park Avenue applied -and got- membership of the Southern League (after Fulham joined the Football League) This was before cars or even coaches were widely available. 

So it's nothing new.....

Think England used to play in Australia pre flights😀

sometimes you have to take a step backwards to move forward

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