Eddie Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Partizan Belgrade seem to be developing a firm. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=7149916761700409&id=114955005196655&m_entstream_source=feed_mobile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 I suspect that is more linked to politics/nationalism in the Balkans tbh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Taylor Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 I heard it was Fev Fans on a end of season jolly. 2008 RFL Wakefield & District Young Volunteer of the Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 16 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: I suspect that is more linked to politics/nationalism in the Balkans tbh! Probably Partizan fan groups, who iirc support all branches of the club not just football. Regardless I’d love to see a few flares (safely) set off at league one grounds to liven things up and maybe attract younger fans in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whippet13 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 32 minutes ago, Eddie said: Probably Partizan fan groups, who iirc support all branches of the club not just football. Regardless I’d love to see a few flares (safely) set off at league one grounds to liven things up and maybe attract younger fans in. Given the public image and perception of flares at football games, wouldn't that just potentially attract young aggressive males, create a hostile atmosphere and discourage families with small children or away fans? And why would they be suitable for League 1 games and not Champ or SL ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Whippet13 said: Given the public image and perception of flares at football games, wouldn't that just potentially attract young aggressive males, create a hostile atmosphere and discourage families with small children or away fans? And why would they be suitable for League 1 games and not Champ or SL ones? Well yes maybe it would attract those sort of people, which is a shame because done properly flares and flags etc can look really good, and engage people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Flares? It looks like the towering inferno! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adelaide Tiger Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 6 hours ago, Johnoco said: Flares? It looks like the towering inferno! It looks to me like the hut selling the bovril has gone up in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 16 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 On Sunday I was in Zagreb and attended the Lokomotiv v Dynamo football game in the Croatian top division. I stood alongside the Dynamo Zagreb Ultras, about three or four hundred black clad (mainly) guys. There were flares on the terraces and pitch and plenty of songs that needed a Nazi salute. It was scary. Yes, that was Croatia, but I get the feeling that Serbia is no different. I'd be really wary about who the Serbian RL teams get to support them in other Balkan republics. Hopefully I'm wrong in my concerns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Number 16 said: On Sunday I was in Zagreb and attended the Lokomotiv v Dynamo football game in the Croatian top division. I stood alongside the Dynamo Zagreb Ultras, about three or four hundred black clad (mainly) guys. There were flares on the terraces and pitch and plenty of songs that needed a Nazi salute. It was scary. Yes, that was Croatia, but I get the feeling that Serbia is no different. I'd be really wary about who the Serbian RL teams get to support them in other Balkan republics. Hopefully I'm wrong in my concerns I doubt they have much choice if people attach themselves. Albanian teams have played in Serbia and found them to be very accommodating and friendly. Sadly the Serbian teams in particular (being named the same as some of the big football clubs) will attract a certain element as the sport gains more profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigbyLuger Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Flares are never a good idea, unless you're easily impressed by loud, bright things. They're dangerous, let alone in the hands of untrained "fans" with access to alcohol. Fining clubs who's fans use them is a great thing the RFL do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: I doubt they have much choice if people attach themselves. They can always respond or distance themselves if they want to. It's up to them if they want to do that. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, gingerjon said: They can always respond or distance themselves if they want to. It's up to them if they want to do that. True, though the amount of sway certain (often unsavoury) fan groups have within some Eastern European sports clubs is something that they will be aware of. Banning the ultras whilst using the team name could be seen as having their cake and eating it sadly. Ultimately they can say "we don't want this" but people can and will still turn up at fixtures at the level these games are being played at (park fields). Its up to them to decide whether the sports club name prestige is worth the potential problems. Up to now it has been, as there have been virtually no problems. In future, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 On 07/11/2021 at 17:01, Eddie said: Well yes maybe it would attract those sort of people, which is a shame because done properly flares and flags etc can look really good, and engage people. [sigh] Are you having a bad day, Eddie? Why would I want to "engage" with a bunch of lunatics carrying flares? I'm far more likely to leave the ground. "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsontown Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Oh aye, let's let off flares at Keighley. Should be able to get rid of that old wooden stand in fairly short order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 9, 2021 Author Share Posted November 9, 2021 18 minutes ago, Griff said: [sigh] Are you having a bad day, Eddie? Why would I want to "engage" with a bunch of lunatics carrying flares? I'm far more likely to leave the ground. I wasn’t talking about you specifically, although one whining old man leaving to be replaced by 10 enthusiastic youngsters wouldn’t be a bad swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Shepherd Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 On 07/11/2021 at 15:57, Eddie said: Partizan Belgrade seem to be developing a firm. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=7149916761700409&id=114955005196655&m_entstream_source=feed_mobile All Fev's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 On 07/11/2021 at 16:20, Eddie said: Probably Partizan fan groups, who iirc support all branches of the club not just football. Regardless I’d love to see a few flares (safely) set off at league one grounds to liven things up and maybe attract younger fans in. Please explain how flares can be used safely in sports grounds. Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Blind side johnny said: Please explain how flares can be used safely in sports grounds. Steady, Johnny. You'll get labelled as a "whining old man". This suggestion, I note, comes in a week where a soccer match was abandoned because a player was hit by a firework. "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 36 minutes ago, Eddie said: I wasn’t talking about you specifically, although one whining old man leaving to be replaced by 10 enthusiastic youngsters wouldn’t be a bad swap. With age cometh wisdom, Eddie. "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 23 minutes ago, Blind side johnny said: Please explain how flares can be used safely in sports grounds. Flares, no, but most MLS grounds have a designated 'pyro area' and set times during the game where they are allowed to release smoke canisters. All very sanitised and well away from the impact that has been intended through their use on the continent for decades. Suppose in some ways it is not too dissimilar to those daft flames that the RFL insist on throwing money in to at big games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 9, 2021 Author Share Posted November 9, 2021 25 minutes ago, Blind side johnny said: Please explain how flares can be used safely in sports grounds. See Leyther Matt’s response below Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 1 hour ago, David Shepherd said: All Fev's fault. If you look closely you will see a flat cap and a middle aged bloke attacking cars in the car park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonM Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said: If you look closely you will see a flat cap and a middle aged bloke attacking cars in the car park That wins the internet for today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 16 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Tommygilf said: I doubt they have much choice if people attach themselves. Albanian teams have played in Serbia and found them to be very accommodating and friendly. Sadly the Serbian teams in particular (being named the same as some of the big football clubs) will attract a certain element as the sport gains more profile. Wasn't soccer in Australia bedeviled by sectarian violence until a few years ago when many clubs had names related to their countries of origin. This led to violence, particularly amongst the Balkan ex pats. The Aussie FA forced them to change their names, like Croatia Sydney became Sydney United. Maybe RL in Serbia could consider the same, if there is an issue. And I'm not saying there is. I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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