Stirlin Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 I have no axe to grind here so bear with me , couple of occasions this week York has been tagged as a '' Big '' club , once by Mark Aston commenting on the imminent arrival at Eagles of Jason Bass and another in the General RL section. What defines a big club ? , for the life of me I have never considered the Knights/Wasps as a big club , we have a fantastic new stadium and top training facilities but we rent both and have no real estate to call our own. Not the largest of budgets either but as a team we have for the most part always punched above our weight. So what is it ? , attendance , City , 2 breweries.....the last one was a joke but I would like your opinions as to what it is about us that ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB Knight Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 If it’s the ‘clubs on the up’ thread in the general RL section then I wouldn’t pay too much attention to it - I’ve seen Barrow mentioned a few times, I like Barrow, some great fans and my favourite of the Cumbrian teams but just over a year ago they were in a lot of trouble having been relegated, rumoured financial difficulty (didn’t they have just £40 or something in their bank account at one point?!). A season of practically giving free tickets away (which needs a long term strategy to be successful, IMO) doesn’t make them a big club or even a club on the up. Now, if they have 2 or 3 years of growth and establish themselves as a championship club then they are a club on the up. Like I say I’m a fan of the club and they are doing some good things and have a good setup to generate income but it needs viewing over a longer period than one year. As for Mark Aston, I think he’s a good coach and notice he often likes to talk other clubs up, means less pressure on his own players. I think York are a club with great potential, doing so many things right while I still think a few things need reworking (I’ve added my thoughts on the fans survey, take em or leave em!) but at this current time I wouldn’t say we are a big club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeb1 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Agree with the last 2 posts , we are not a big club , but we have the potential to be one . Wigan , hull ,leeds and saints are big clubs plus a few more superleague sides. my interpretation of a Big club would be winning a league title ( superleague) grand final or challenge cup plus an average attendance of circa 7,000 , the championship although a great comp has no big clubs but Bradford , Halifax , Leigh , Widnes , Newcastle and ourselves could break through to be the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarence Street Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 I agree with most of the above but the point about renting instead of owning a ground or training facilities is debatable. Am I right in thinking some big clubs like Hull and Wigan don't own theirs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Hall Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I think the big club thing comes from the club having a proper structure, not just a first team playing on a Sunday and the chairman's wife running the club on a Tuesday afternoon between 2 and 4pm. World class facilities for training, great corporate hospitality, Foundation does loads of work in the city and schools, LDRL, Ladies team in SL, Excel programme, work with the community clubs, student RL with St John's. Proper staff working full time who are there cos they're good at their jobs, Real standing in the sport, a club people want to be involved with, a proper plan for the future of the sport in the city. So yes, I reckon we're now a big club, at least at Championship level anyway. Every single pro RL club should be like that really. http://www.alldesignandprint.co.uk Printing & Graphic Design with Nationwide Service Programmes | Leaflets | Cards | Banners & Flags | Letterheads | Tickets | Magazines | Folders | Brand Identity plus much more Official Matchday Programme Print & Design Partner to York City Knights, Heworth ARLFC, York Acorn RLFC & Hunslet RLFC Official Player Sponsor of Marcus Stock for the 2020 Season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Phil Loxton Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Be very careful with any dillusions of grandeur because Coolie is never far away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeb1 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, J Phil Loxton said: Be very careful with any dillusions of grandeur because Coolie is never far away or fev party poopers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishknight Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 As Simon said the club is doing things right both on and off the field, it will take time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Phil Loxton Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 3 hours ago, georgeb1 said: or fev party poopers I do try my best at goading Coolie He could be on holiday For what it's worth I do like York and any other club that pulls it's socks up in a manner that your club has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB Knight Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Big club or not we are currently the main story on the BBC Rugby League website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow45 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 12 hours ago, J Phil Loxton said: I do try my best at goading Coolie He could be on holiday For what it's worth I do like York and any other club that pulls it's socks up in a manner that your club has. Where's he gone to? Batley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tms Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 On 07/11/2021 at 18:57, georgeb1 said: Agree with the last 2 posts , we are not a big club , but we have the potential to be one . Wigan , hull ,leeds and saints are big clubs plus a few more superleague sides. my interpretation of a Big club would be winning a league title ( superleague) grand final or challenge cup plus an average attendance of circa 7,000 , the championship although a great comp has no big clubs but Bradford , Halifax , Leigh , Widnes , Newcastle and ourselves could break through to be the next. Thank you G for not mentioning FEV in your summation 19 hours ago, georgeb1 said: or fev party poopers FEV have never been party poopers G we look forward to a good KNEES up but we love being heart breakers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeb1 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 1 hour ago, POR said: Thank you G for not mentioning FEV in your summation a pleasure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolie Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 5 hours ago, Shadow45 said: Where's he gone to? Batley? Far too busy nobbling your missus behind your back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolie Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 18 hours ago, J Phil Loxton said: I do try my best at goading Coolie He could be on holiday For what it's worth I do like York and any other club that pulls it's socks up in a manner that your club has. Correct on holiday been to the Bahamas penguin hunting All I found was kit kats & rockys Big teams are steeped in tradition & history York are certainly not, neither are Dewsbury, Batley, Sheffield, Hunslet, Halifax.. Featherstone come the closest to been a big team, a club with history & tradition But on reflection what else is there in a little village in the corner of the WF postcode, since the demise of whippet racing & pigeon fancying the thug element has drifted down post office Road to attend "the only gig in the village" earning the club countless fines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolie Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 20 hours ago, spanishknight said: As Simon said the club is doing things right both on and off the field, it will take time. Little steps make strong foundations You'll get there eventually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevrover Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 On 08/11/2021 at 13:30, georgeb1 said: or fev party poopers Hey we'll have less lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevrover Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 On 09/11/2021 at 10:53, coolie said: Correct on holiday been to the Bahamas penguin hunting All I found was kit kats & rockys Big teams are steeped in tradition & history York are certainly not, neither are Dewsbury, Batley, Sheffield, Hunslet, Halifax.. Featherstone come the closest to been a big team, a club with history & tradition But on reflection what else is there in a little village in the corner of the WF postcode, since the demise of whippet racing & pigeon fancying the thug element has drifted down post office Road to attend "the only gig in the village" earning the club countless fines It's NOT a village!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevrover Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 On 09/11/2021 at 10:53, coolie said: Correct on holiday been to the Bahamas penguin hunting All I found was kit kats & rockys Big teams are steeped in tradition & history York are certainly not, neither are Dewsbury, Batley, Sheffield, Hunslet, Halifax.. Featherstone come the closest to been a big team, a club with history & tradition But on reflection what else is there in a little village in the corner of the WF postcode, since the demise of whippet racing & pigeon fancying the thug element has drifted down post office Road to attend "the only gig in the village" earning the club countless fines I've supported Fev for 50 years and I've never thought of us as a big club even though we've got a fantastic history considering the size of our TOWN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolie Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 6 hours ago, Fevrover said: It's NOT a village!!! Outpost then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Webb Ellis Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, coolie said: Outpost then Hamlet?? Alas poor Yorick (City Knights?), I knew them well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevrover Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, coolie said: Outpost then Posh superb of Wakefield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeb1 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 9 hours ago, Fevrover said: Posh superb of Wakefield bus stop in pontee , youre just a bus sop in ponnteee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevrover Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 24 minutes ago, georgeb1 said: bus stop in pontee , youre just a bus sop in ponnteee. Read the above post ,we're one poshiest suburbs of Wakefield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolie Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, Fevrover said: Read the above post ,we're one poshiest suburbs of Wakefield After Agbrigg, Eastmoor, Lupset & Peacock Estate... Featherstone makes streethouse look like Beverly Hills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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