Man of Kent Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 The usual off-season stuff. Here goes. FB Tomkins W Johnstone C Young C Farnworth W Makinson SO Lomax SH Williams P Walmsley H Clark P Thompson SR Whitehead SR Bateman LF Knowles Interchange Burgess Oledzki Sutton Welsby Decent side that could probably beat anyone bar Australia. Lack true world class in the backs compared to the likes of Trbojevic, Tedesco, Cleary et al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, Man of Kent said: The usual off-season stuff. Here goes. FB Tomkins W Johnstone C Young C Farnworth W Makinson SO Lomax SH Williams P Walmsley H Clark P Thompson SR Whitehead SR Bateman LF Knowles Interchange Burgess Oledzki Sutton Welsby Decent side that could probably beat anyone bar Australia. Lack true world class in the backs compared to the likes of Trbojevic, Tedesco, Cleary et al. so almost an entirely different team to the one that played France? see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 23 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said: so almost an entirely different team to the one that played France? Yep…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Who's Young and Farnworth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, Man of Kent said: Yep…. Young might be playing in the World Cup but I doubt it will be with England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Cashmere Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 51 minutes ago, Man of Kent said: The usual off-season stuff. Here goes. FB Tomkins W Johnstone C Young C Farnworth W Makinson SO Lomax SH Williams P Walmsley H Clark P Thompson SR Whitehead SR Bateman LF Knowles Interchange Burgess Oledzki Sutton Welsby Decent side that could probably beat anyone bar Australia. Lack true world class in the backs compared to the likes of Trbojevic, Tedesco, Cleary et al. Don't think you're far off here barring the outside backs. Only see Tom Davies cementing his place off the back of another strong year with Catalans and Newman will be taking 1 of the centre spots injury permitting. Welsby absolutely has to be, at the very least, a utility interchange. Don't think there are many other potential bolters. Likely to be just too soon for Pryce, Dodd, Pearce-Paul and Smithies but who knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 20 minutes ago, Wellsy4HullFC said: Who's Young and Farnworth? Young is the 2m tall, 107kg, third fastest player in the NRL chap who plays for Newcastle. Farnworth plays for Brisbane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 36 minutes ago, Wellsy4HullFC said: Who's Young and Farnworth? https://www.newcastleknights.com.au/news/2021/09/24/season-review-dom-young/ https://www.broncos.com.au/teams/telstra-premiership/brisbane-broncos/herbie-farnworth/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southerner Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Thought Dom Young chose to play for Jamaica? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Hopefully Griffin can keep the firm he was in before injury this season to get a shot for England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 I'd like to think Jake Connor will be in the squad too as he is very versatile, but it's clear he's out of favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llangennech Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I watched Young this year, only in one match, and he was dodgy. He was dropped from the side. I wouldn't pick him for England next year. Cymru Am Byth/New South Wales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Man of Kent said: The usual off-season stuff. Here goes. FB Tomkins W Johnstone C Young C Farnworth W Makinson SO Lomax SH Williams P Walmsley H Clark P Thompson SR Whitehead SR Bateman LF Knowles Interchange Burgess Oledzki Sutton Welsby Decent side that could probably beat anyone bar Australia. Lack true world class in the backs compared to the likes of Trbojevic, Tedesco, Cleary et al. Two years too soon for Young, the lad is still very raw. I would say Connor would be a better shout in the centres. Newman is just not impressing for long enough. Maybe 2022 is his break through year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 5 hours ago, Scubby said: Two years too soon for Young, the lad is still very raw. I hear that but he’s such a handful that I’ll take a too-soon Young over never-will-be-ready for this level players like Lyne, Hardaker et al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, Man of Kent said: I hear that but he’s such a handful that I’ll take a too-soon Young over never-will-be-ready for this level players like Lyne, Hardaker et al. We have other options. Those 2 are not hopefully well behind in the pecking order now. Hardaker ain't what he was, and Lyne just never was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1. Tomkins 2. Makinson 3. Farnworth 4. Percival 5. Johnstone 6. Lomax/Williams 7. Dodd/Pryce 8. Burgess 9. Clark 10. Thompson 11. Whitehead 12. Bateman 13. Knowles 14. Welsby 15. Walmsley 16. Oledzki 17. Currie/McMeeken/Pearce-Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 9 hours ago, Southerner said: Thought Dom Young chose to play for Jamaica? And Morgan Knowles for Wales with Ben Currie/Philbin for Ireland. Players can switch freely between tier 1 and tier 2 Nations. All I expect would choose to play for England if selected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Toppy Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Man of Kent said: I hear that but he’s such a handful that I’ll take a too-soon Young over never-will-be-ready for this level players like Lyne, Hardaker et al. He really isn't. You seem to be another one blinded by the "he plays in the NRL so he must play for England" propaganda. The guy has flippers for hands and looks so ponderous he makes props look good. He's had some absolute shocking games for Newcastle and I doubt he'll even be a 1st team regular next year if everyone stays fit. St.Helens - The Home of record breaking Rugby Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 16 minutes ago, Saint Toppy said: He really isn't. You seem to be another one blinded by the "he plays in the NRL so he must play for England" propaganda. The guy has flippers for hands and looks so ponderous he makes props look good. He's had some absolute shocking games for Newcastle and I doubt he'll even be a 1st team regular next year if everyone stays fit. Let's see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost crayfish Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I saw some highlights from the series win against the kiwis recently and on that, it's hard to fathom Jake Connor not being in the frame for a spot somewhere. A few clips I've seen of Jake Wardle make him look like someone to think about too - I rate him a better prospect than Newman and hope he has a breakout next year. On Dominic Young, it's hard to see him playing centres for Newcastle next year but he could be set to break through on the wing. And speaking of wingers, Johnstone seems a bit too injury prone. So with all that said, here's my team (not the team I'd pick to play today... I've backed a few guys to force their way in with big seasons next year): Tomkins, Young, Farnworth, Wardle, Makinson, Lomax, Williams, Walmsley, Clarke, Thompson, Currie, Bateman, Whitehead. Reserves: T Burgess, Partington, Oledzki, Connor/Welsby/Pryce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The storm Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 13 hours ago, Davo5 said: Young might be playing in the World Cup but I doubt it will be with England. Dominic young is 6 foot 7 and Herbie Farnworth is 6 foot 3 Farnworth is a certainty but is might be roo early for young wgobhas played just 6 NRL games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Saint Toppy said: He really isn't. You seem to be another one blinded by the "he plays in the NRL so he must play for England" propaganda. The guy has flippers for hands and looks so ponderous he makes props look good. He's had some absolute shocking games for Newcastle and I doubt he'll even be a 1st team regular next year if everyone stays fit. Dominic Young didn't have 'some' absolutely shocking games for Newcastle last year. He had one poor game in which he lost possession a couple of times. As a 19 year old playing in debut season in the NRL he played six games, scored 4 tries, had 2 try assists (not bad for a winger), 14 tackle breaks and 2 line breaks. He averaged 130 running metres per game. None of that is shocking, bar the loose carries and his errors in the loss against the Roosters. Look, I don't mind if you don't rate him but I wish you would just stop making things up to support your point. You have previously posted that on his debut against St Helens, he was directly at fault for several of the Saints tries. The video of all the tries is available from that day and none of them went anywhere near him. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northamptoncougar Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Personally I think the time has been and gone for Currie. If Knowles went to the NRL now I've no doubt he'd have at least the success of Bateman. I'd worry about Lomax, he's never done it in Internationals, Dodd / Price might be more suited in 12 months time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, The storm said: Farnworth is a certainty I agree he should be , I worry Wayne may think otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I reckon Newcastle Knights and Adam O’Brien know what they’re looking at so Dom Young must have plenty they feel they want to invest in . I agree with them , he’s just turned 20 and he did more than ok in his appearances . He’s got all the physical attributes and good degree of talent and with another offseason in that environment he’ll come on a ton again . WC or not , he’s one to watch in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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