DavidM Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 17 minutes ago, Scubby said: It's more time than Michael Caine had on Escape to Victory Yeh but he had Pele , Ossy Ardiles , Bobby Moore and err Sylvester Stallone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, DavidM said: Yeh but he had Pele , Ossy Ardiles , Bobby Moore and err Sylvester Stallone True, nice Stallone impression BTW Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RugbyLeagueGeek Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Scubby said: It's more time than Michael Caine had on Escape to Victory Are Cornwall going to be digging a tunnel to escape at half time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, RugbyLeagueGeek said: Are Cornwall going to be digging a tunnel to escape at half time? If they don't get some players soon it is probably their best bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RP London Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 11 hours ago, DavidM said: Yeh but he had Pele , Ossy Ardiles , Bobby Moore and err Sylvester Stallone and John Wark... why does everyone forget John Wark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RP London Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 11 hours ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: A season ticket including group Challenge Cup games would have more value and sell for a higher price, meaning those games that are currently poorly attended and loss makers would have the same value as a Super League game. Groups in the cup has worked for Rugby Union and Football, why not Rugby League? I think the problem with the comparison you are making is that the groups are in European Competitions. Those competitions mean that your club are playing different, high quality, opposition. You dont just want a one hit and out and the lesser clubs that are in can make huge money from the game pulling in fans at their home ground so want more than one game against the big boys.Ā IF this were to be done for the challenge cup you wouldnt get people going to the "lesser" club from one of the big clubs because it isnt a jolly to a place they have never been, its down the road.. you wont get loads of people coming in from the local area to watch the "big team" because if they wanted to do that they would go and watch them. Equally for the "big clubs" of Super League any of the matches against Super League opposition will be "yet another game" which is part of the problem of loop fixtures now.Ā If we want to replace Loop Fixtures (which we should) then they need to be replaced by one of: 1 international matches, 2 a new "world club challenge" as per the super league ones (not going to happen), 3 New clubs entering the league and adding their home and away matches.. (1 or 3 for me).. replacing them with more loop fixtures branded as the challenge cup is going to make naff all difference to be fair.Ā I dont mind the idea of groups but lets be fair its not going to solve the issues that we are trying to solve. The Challenge Cup is going the way of the FA Cup and the old Pilkington Cup in RU.. the way to revamp is to make the games themselves something special.. if, for example, the league was conference based then it would be the only time some teams would play each other potentially (or at least at that venue).. give the winners an automatic Play off spot (the 6th spot) which may make teams and fans take it more seriously etc..Ā It needs something but i dont see groups making much difference at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yipyee Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 On 11/11/2021 at 10:56, del capo said: Ā The Community clubs provide 26 , a mixture of NCL and regional , as well as Forces etc. The NCL clubs are selected by final league positions ( 46 to go at ) and usually infill down the line to provide cover for those clubs who chose not to enter. Should be some entertaining games especially once League 1 enter the fray. It starts before the season starts, why would anyone take this competition seriously anymore? It becomes a pre season tournament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yipyee Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 21:10, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: A season ticket including group Challenge Cup games would have more value and sell for a higher price, meaning those games that are currently poorly attended and loss makers would have the same value as a Super League game. Groups in the cup has worked for Rugby Union and Football, why not Rugby League? The gate money is split differently so it would mean progressing would see the home side forking out money to the away team for evey round. This would be money mostly collected at the stary of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 On 16/11/2021 at 16:20, bowes said: Apparently before BARLA formed in the 1970s they had regional qualifying rounds to reduce the number of amateur clubs to two. I don't know any more details than that, I just remember being told it by one of the older posters on here once. Wasn't it the county cup winnersĀ Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowes Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 30 minutes ago, Marauder said: Wasn't it the county cup winnersĀ It was once the County Cups started in 1973, but they had qualifying rounds before then.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 8 hours ago, yipyee said: The gate money is split differently so it would mean progressing would see the home side forking out money to the away team for evey round. This would be money mostly collected at the stary of the season. If every team had 2 guaranteed home games from the pool matches the gates wouldnāt need to be split, just as they are not split for Super League games. If the cup got down to the last 8 teams before adding 12 Super League teams that would give us 20 teams to go into 4 groups of 5, with 2 home and 2 away games for each club. The winner of each group can progress into the Cup Semi Final. The Championship and League One clubs that donāt make the group stages could play their own cup competition like the 1895 Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anita Bath Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 John Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yipyee Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 On 19/11/2021 at 06:45, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: If every team had 2 guaranteed home games from the pool matches the gates wouldnāt need to be split, just as they are not split for Super League games. If the cup got down to the last 8 teams before adding 12 Super League teams that would give us 20 teams to go into 4 groups of 5, with 2 home and 2 away games for each club. The winner of each group can progress into the Cup Semi Final. The Championship and League One clubs that donāt make the group stages could play their own cup competition like the 1895 Cup. It wouldnt work as one off shocks wouldnt happen and the magic is lost. Imagine a lower level team beating a SL team to then say it doesnt matter as its a pool game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 7 hours ago, yipyee said: It wouldnt work as one off shocks wouldnt happen and the magic is lost. Imagine a lower level team beating a SL team to then say it doesnt matter as its a pool game One off shocks would still happen, the lower league team would just be unlikely to reach the semi final, as they are now anyway even if they cause an upset in the last 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: One off shocks would still happen, the lower league team would just be unlikely to reach the semi final, as they are now anyway even if they cause an upset in the last 16. Thereās no reward for that shock, pointless extra games for the lower league clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 We run at well under one genuine shock per year in the Challenge Cup. This isn't soccer with its randomness. Basing a set-up on the magic of upsets is guaranteed to end in failure. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.Ā (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 8 hours ago, yipyee said: It wouldnt work as one off shocks wouldnt happen and the magic is lost. Imagine a lower level team beating a SL team to then say it doesnt matter as its a pool game Didn't seem to be an issue in the middle 8s. The upset was a huge deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odsal Outlaw Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 On 11/11/2021 at 06:26, Davo5 said: I think the Jan 15/16 start will see some community clubs not entering. I think there is some merit in making the CC exclusively a British comp. Take any cross border planning out, take out financial burden/risk and allow it to be a traditional/heritage British Comp. Ā That may also open up a longer term Euro Comp for SL teams, or allow additional French cups, or provide a stable future model should any other expansion teams join SL (which Iām a fan of) Nottingham Outlaws Rugby League Harry Jepson Winners 2008 RLC Midlands Premier Champions 2006 & 2008 East Midlands Challenge Cup Winners 2005, 2006, 2007 & 2008 Rotterdam International 9's Cup Winners 2005 RLC North Midlands Champions 2003 & 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 On 18/11/2021 at 08:51, RP London said: and John Wark... why does everyone forget John Wark? Virtually the entire Ipswich squad of the time, no less. Albeit a few turned out for the Nazis, which @Eddieprobably approves of.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Eddie Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 13 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said: Virtually the entire Ipswich squad of the time, no less. Albeit a few turned out for the Nazis, which @Eddieprobably approves of.Ā Their goalkeeperās arm getting broken is a highlight.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Frisky Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 14 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said: Virtually the entire Ipswich squad of the time, no less. Albeit a few turned out for the Nazis, which @Eddieprobably approves of.Ā Yes think they had just won the UEFA Cup or finish 2nd in the league so they were a very good team. Loved John Wark, great midfielder the film is worth watching just to see his line in his thick Scottish accent.... as well as teaching Pele a few skills.Ā Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLANTISMAN Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Mr Frisky said: Yes think they had just won the UEFA Cup or finish 2nd in the league so they were a very good team. Loved John Wark, great midfielder the film is worth watching just to see his line in his thick Scottish accent.... as well as teaching Pele a few skills.Ā Ā The movie is so bad its brill LOL:) Stallone in goal is hilarious:) Only good thing about the Nazis was their uniforms (According to my wife:) Anyone for Hugo Boss? Ā PĀ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yipyee Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 On 23/11/2021 at 07:44, Wellsy4HullFC said: Didn't seem to be an issue in the middle 8s. The upset was a huge deal. And ended with the status quo maintained, thus concluded the rigged situationĀ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 9 hours ago, yipyee said: And ended with the status quo maintained, thus concluded the rigged situationĀ It did? Pretty sure I saw a promoted side in 3 out of 4 middle 8s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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