Hull Kingston Bronco Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said: I think you'll find that you can't actually do a great deal with £2m. Didn't your North Stand, the sort of thing Cas would need, cost over £8m? £8m was partly for the North Stand, which includes a lot of complexity Cas don’t need around requirements for the Enterprise Hub, but also a sizeable 3-storey office & corporate ents block in the North West corner (which likewise doesn’t need to be a requirement). Also bear in mind because of the greyhound and speedway tracks’ legacy meaning our West and East stands are far from the pitch, even though it’s an ‘end’ stand it’s likely as long as full ‘side’ stand would be. I agree you won’t get a full 100m stand for £2m, but you might be able to do it for £3-£3.5m and either borrow the gap (potentially via the local authority at rates they alone can access), or seek 3rd party funding or indeed tenants - perhaps linked to the clubs role in reaching hard-to-reach communities (as I think both Hull KR and Warrington did). Creative thinking required, which was kind of my point in the more wind-up post too. Apparently this site says I "won the day" here on 23rd Jan, 19th Jan, 9th Jan also 13th December, whatever any of that means. Anyway, 4 times in a few weeks? The forum must be going to the dogs - you people need to seriously up your game. Where's Dutoni when you need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M j M Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 But Wakey's funding isn't just this £2m is it? There's also commitment from the developers who screwed them over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevrob Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Kirmonds pouch said: Dear god, another brain doner. I’ve never had brain doner, just chicken or lamb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hull Kingston Bronco Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 18 minutes ago, Fevrob said: I’ve never had brain doner, just chicken or lamb Yeah, brain doners sound really offal Apparently this site says I "won the day" here on 23rd Jan, 19th Jan, 9th Jan also 13th December, whatever any of that means. Anyway, 4 times in a few weeks? The forum must be going to the dogs - you people need to seriously up your game. Where's Dutoni when you need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gates1 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 46 minutes ago, M j M said: But Wakey's funding isn't just this £2m is it? There's also commitment from the developers who screwed them over. Yeo Wakey are also getting some funding as a discharge from the Newmarket Fiasco. There is rumour that Cas are going to get some similar funding from Axiom to discharge the the duty to provide a stadium at Glasshoughton and allow them to build houses on the site rather than the retail development, stadium and country park. Only a rumour, no idea how true it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Fevrob said: I’ve never had brain doner, just chicken or lamb How do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wholly Trinity Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 11 hours ago, Man of Kent said: Wakey hoping to have their swanky new grandstand open by July 2023. https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/wakefield-trinity-belle-vue-stadium-22260883?utm_source=leeds_live_newsletter&utm_campaign=rugby_league_lve_newsletter&utm_medium=email Commendable target date but if it is open by then I'll change my name by deed poll to Neil Fox. I can see the attraction of wanting to adopt the name of a true RL legend, but why do you need an excuse? Just do it. You do know the planning process started 12 months ago and after a few delays the 2 related applications are finally being heard next month. Both are likely to pass and after another short delay, to allow for the SOS the opportunity to call it in, work should start in February. 77 weeks projected timescale takes us to when? https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/deed-poll-forms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Wholly Trinity said: I can see the attraction of wanting to adopt the name of a true RL legend, but why do you need an excuse? Just do it. You do know the planning process started 12 months ago and after a few delays the 2 related applications are finally being heard next month. Both are likely to pass and after another short delay, to allow for the SOS the opportunity to call it in, work should start in February. 77 weeks projected timescale takes us to when? https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/deed-poll-forms Damn! How silly of me to forget construction projects always run to their projected timescale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wholly Trinity Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Man of Kent said: Damn! How silly of me to forget construction projects always run to their projected timescale. We'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREPOSTEROUS Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Man of Kent said: Damn! How silly of me to forget construction projects always run to their projected timescale. No contractor worth their salt would devise a programme that was on the button and didn't allow for some slack. Of course there could be delays which are not anticipated, but you have to a a target date for budgeting purposes none the less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboy Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 7 hours ago, Wholly Trinity said: Both are likely to pass and after another short delay, to allow for the SOS the opportunity to call it in... https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/deed-poll-forms The SOS statement on the planning portal says the SOS will NOT be opposing/calling in the project - UNLESS there is a LEGAL challenge lodged in court within 6 weeks. If there is a LEGAL challenge, the SOS has to review the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREPOSTEROUS Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 .. and a legal challenge can only be upheld if due process wasn't followed, not just because someone objects to the approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirmonds pouch Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 On 25/11/2021 at 06:03, Man of Kent said: Damn! How silly of me to forget construction projects always run to their projected timescale. Funnily enough they generally do in these kinds of builds. This is not the channel tunnel it’s a strait forward almost off the shelf build. The east stand is of a sort that has been built all over the country for years. Why you need to rubbish what is a fairly run of the mill project say a lot about you. If you were a big person you’d just admit you were wrong and wish us well, but you won’t do that will you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 24/11/2021 at 21:57, Hull Kingston Bronco said: Yeah, brain doners sound really offal Can you two stop trivialising this thread with silly meat puns. There is a lot at steak here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hull Kingston Bronco Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 15 hours ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: Can you two stop trivialising this thread with silly meat puns. There is a lot at steak here Leave us alone, or you’re for the chop Apparently this site says I "won the day" here on 23rd Jan, 19th Jan, 9th Jan also 13th December, whatever any of that means. Anyway, 4 times in a few weeks? The forum must be going to the dogs - you people need to seriously up your game. Where's Dutoni when you need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 On 19/11/2021 at 17:16, POR said: https://citizen.wakefield.gov.uk/districts-rugby-league-clubs-set-for-a-6m-boost/?utm_content=bufferf72ca&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer Approved today. Fabulous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 On 27/11/2021 at 15:39, Kirmonds pouch said: Funnily enough they generally do in these kinds of builds. This is not the channel tunnel it’s a strait forward almost off the shelf build. The east stand is of a sort that has been built all over the country for years. Why you need to rubbish what is a fairly run of the mill project say a lot about you. If you were a big person you’d just admit you were wrong and wish us well, but you won’t do that will you. From my own experience, I know these things often overrun. Plough Lane got planning permission in December 2015 and was scheduled to open in August 2018. It actually opened (sort of) in November 2020. At the old ground, a basic 900-seat stand with no facilities of note opened two months late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirmonds pouch Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, Man of Kent said: From my own experience, I know these things often overrun. Plough Lane got planning permission in December 2015 and was scheduled to open in August 2018. It actually opened (sort of) in November 2020. At the old ground, a basic 900-seat stand with no facilities of note opened two months late. Do you really, you do seem to know an awful lot about almost everything. Except you don't, do you. I on the other hand know very little about what goes on in say Kent, but I know an awful lot about what happens in WMDC. Like you didn't think the funding would ever materialise and being the 'expert' you are not, 2 million of it just arrived today as I predicted, see front page of this very publication! So why don't you and a few others just keep quiet for a while and just listen to those who do know. Funding is in place. Planning permission is still a variant but even if it were rejected it would be on minor issues easily rectified. True, this would add time but let's run with the belief that this well researched application(s) will succeed at the the first attempt. That being the case the East and North stand will be complete for the start of the 2023 season. Parts of it may be in use towards the end of this season, in the form of the lower concourse and the front section of seating. Apart from planning, the only real concern is Covid and even Trinity can't be blamed for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Just Browny Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 This is a remarkable investment from a local authority in the current climate (or any climate from the last 11 years tbh). I hope the clubs use it very wisely. I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Horray, great news. And , when the stand is built, no one is allowed to say that they preferred the old one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wholly Trinity Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 On 24/11/2021 at 21:45, Man of Kent said: Wakey hoping to have their swanky new grandstand open by July 2023. https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/wakefield-trinity-belle-vue-stadium-22260883?utm_source=leeds_live_newsletter&utm_campaign=rugby_league_lve_newsletter&utm_medium=email Commendable target date but if it is open by then I'll change my name by deed poll to Neil Fox. Just to be absolutely clear, if the new east stand is used for spectators for an SL fixture during, or before, the month of July 2023, you will officially change your name via deed poll to Neil Fox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 12 hours ago, voteronniegibbs said: Confirmed as a grant to each club, and not a loan. £2 million is not loose change. Very good news. The statement does say, a grant of up to £2m each for Castleford Tigers, Wakefield Trinity and Featherstone Rovers. So it looks as though each club will have to show/prove they can/will spend all of it and not whack a chunk of it in the bank for a rainy day. £2m each is a lot of money for artist impressions. I’m looking forward to the next few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 9 hours ago, Wholly Trinity said: Just to be absolutely clear, if the new east stand is used for spectators for an SL fixture during, or before, the month of July 2023, you will officially change your name via deed poll to Neil Fox? Hmmm. You’ve hedged it there, chief! Again, from experience, I know these things can be partially open - yet incomplete - by the scheduled date. As, indeed, your question implies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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