sweaty craiq Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, The Phantom Horseman said: What facts have come out so far? You need to quote us figures if you know them. Inside the Championship TV deal - how clubs are planning to put the second-tier on the map - Manchester Evening News Its like finding rocking horse poopoo to get numbers but it is a rough guess that subs will be less than 10000 - less than this were sold in Wales for the Celtic nations RU which also gave you the French T14 RU. So thats about 6-800k of income that production costs are taken from before a club see's a bean, although I heard a rumour that money would be made available to offer cheap tickets to show a better spectacle, which also came off the income. So basically clubs will get a few grand per season at best and probably nothing for being forced to play up to 4 of its best fixtures at home on a Monday night with no restriction on away fixtures. In a few weeks Leigh v Bradford will probably cost Leigh +£50k in gate, sponsorship and secondary sales, Fev v Leigh something similar - away fans will watch it in a local boozer. I few weeks ago I understand clubs were being told the TV money was 50-80k higher than it turned out to be - this may be the RFL holding it back to offset the financial disaster of this deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said: Inside the Championship TV deal - how clubs are planning to put the second-tier on the map - Manchester Evening News Its like finding rocking horse poopoo to get numbers but it is a rough guess that subs will be less than 10000 - less than this were sold in Wales for the Celtic nations RU which also gave you the French T14 RU. So thats about 6-800k of income that production costs are taken from before a club see's a bean, although I heard a rumour that money would be made available to offer cheap tickets to show a better spectacle, which also came off the income. So basically clubs will get a few grand per season at best and probably nothing for being forced to play up to 4 of its best fixtures at home on a Monday night with no restriction on away fixtures. In a few weeks Leigh v Bradford will probably cost Leigh +£50k in gate, sponsorship and secondary sales, Fev v Leigh something similar - away fans will watch it in a local boozer. I few weeks ago I understand clubs were being told the TV money was 50-80k higher than it turned out to be - this may be the RFL holding it back to offset the financial disaster of this deal When's the vote? Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said: Inside the Championship TV deal - how clubs are planning to put the second-tier on the map - Manchester Evening News Its like finding rocking horse poopoo to get numbers but it is a rough guess that subs will be less than 10000 - less than this were sold in Wales for the Celtic nations RU which also gave you the French T14 RU. So thats about 6-800k of income that production costs are taken from before a club see's a bean, although I heard a rumour that money would be made available to offer cheap tickets to show a better spectacle, which also came off the income. So basically clubs will get a few grand per season at best and probably nothing for being forced to play up to 4 of its best fixtures at home on a Monday night with no restriction on away fixtures. In a few weeks Leigh v Bradford will probably cost Leigh +£50k in gate, sponsorship and secondary sales, Fev v Leigh something similar - away fans will watch it in a local boozer. I few weeks ago I understand clubs were being told the TV money was 50-80k higher than it turned out to be - this may be the RFL holding it back to offset the financial disaster of this deal I know the subscribers for PS sports is low but I think there is value in increased exposure of full games As a Broncos fan I'm looking forward to seeing other teams in my league play full matches regularly with decent TV quality coverage What price a general 'lift' in interest / exposure ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RP London Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 On 16/01/2022 at 12:56, sweaty craiq said: I would say the opposite, you are diluting the brand by halving admission cost to adults and giving kids away for free. first up on a Sunday 3pm you must expect 3500 for this plus a huge secondary spend, so a 7000 gate at half price would be needed if secondary spend is ignored good luck Why would you ignore secondary spend when quoting the 7000 gate but add the comment of "huge secondary spend" when using the 3,500 number? you either ignore it or you dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Horseman Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 41 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said: Inside the Championship TV deal - how clubs are planning to put the second-tier on the map - Manchester Evening News Its like finding rocking horse poopoo to get numbers but it is a rough guess that subs will be less than 10000 - less than this were sold in Wales for the Celtic nations RU which also gave you the French T14 RU. So thats about 6-800k of income that production costs are taken from before a club see's a bean, although I heard a rumour that money would be made available to offer cheap tickets to show a better spectacle, which also came off the income. So basically clubs will get a few grand per season at best and probably nothing for being forced to play up to 4 of its best fixtures at home on a Monday night with no restriction on away fixtures. In a few weeks Leigh v Bradford will probably cost Leigh +£50k in gate, sponsorship and secondary sales, Fev v Leigh something similar - away fans will watch it in a local boozer. I few weeks ago I understand clubs were being told the TV money was 50-80k higher than it turned out to be - this may be the RFL holding it back to offset the financial disaster of this deal Ok. I don't doubt for a moment that the financial scenario is very unfavourable for the clubs concerned, so I suppose it comes to a balancing act - ie what is the value to the Championship overall to have TV coverage (the lack of which has been widely lamented ever since the first Premier Sports coverage disappeared with the arrival of the Sky deal), versus the losses from games moving from Sunday afternoons to Monday evenings. It will be interesting to see how the crowds hold up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrewxi Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 I can now confirm, Premier Sports schedule updated as of this morning. 7 30 Jan 31st. Premier Sports 1. York v Fev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 28 minutes ago, The Phantom Horseman said: Ok. I don't doubt for a moment that the financial scenario is very unfavourable for the clubs concerned, so I suppose it comes to a balancing act - ie what is the value to the Championship overall to have TV coverage (the lack of which has been widely lamented ever since the first Premier Sports coverage disappeared with the arrival of the Sky deal), versus the losses from games moving from Sunday afternoons to Monday evenings. It will be interesting to see how the crowds hold up. Agreed....I would say on a Monday-Weds rugby league does not register much with me in the average season Having a Monday game maintains a bigger interest in existing fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 8 hours ago, The Phantom Horseman said: Ok. I don't doubt for a moment that the financial scenario is very unfavourable for the clubs concerned, so I suppose it comes to a balancing act - ie what is the value to the Championship overall to have TV coverage (the lack of which has been widely lamented ever since the first Premier Sports coverage disappeared with the arrival of the Sky deal), versus the losses from games moving from Sunday afternoons to Monday evenings. It will be interesting to see how the crowds hold up. Its SL getting on Stobart trucks but worse, as they had a Sky pot as well To get interest and promote an asset it could have been done 6pm Sunday nights on Our League, with a highlights show the following night, the APP has a bigger take up and clubs already video games - so if each Sunday night game was a fiver then all parties benefit and we have a pay per view asset/stats in the RL locker for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevrover Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 7 hours ago, thebrewxi said: I can now confirm, Premier Sports schedule updated as of this morning. 7 30 Jan 31st. Premier Sports 1. York v Fev. 745 ko on Premier Sports schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrewxi Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 18 minutes ago, Fevrover said: 745 ko on Premier Sports schedule. 7 30 programe starts, schedue sets. Kick off 745 I think? I have to drop my daughter off at 7 30 so I'll be watching in the car unfortunately ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Horseman Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, sweaty craiq said: Its SL getting on Stobart trucks but worse, as they had a Sky pot as well Well I never went out driving just to look for a Stobart truck, but I'll be tuning into Premier each Monday night. Seriously, I do take your point (and you haven't mentioned the players, few of whom, especially the part-timers, will be at all enamoured with the idea of playing on Monday evenings). I just really hope Premier does well as it's been too long since we had regular Championship RL in a traditional televised format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz39 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 On 13/01/2022 at 13:59, Thunder Road said: Not had a problem with PS to be fair. Got it for £60 with zero mither. I went into my account and removed the auto subscribe option for next year. They don't mention that when you sign up. I asked and they informed me. As for Sky sports, when you are within a month of your subscription being up ring sky and ask to speak to the retentions dept. Don't enter into conversion with the the person who you are chatting to.Chances are this is a subsidiary company employed to try and get you on a fast deal. My deal was up before Christmas. They said my new payments would be £132.... 30 minutes onto the retentions dept.and I agreed an 18 month deal at £96 a month. Martin Lewis gives good advice on this subject. £132 !!!!! ???? please tell me you get your tea made and a bevvy handed to you every time you turn your tv on for that price? what on earth are you paying so much for, is tv really that expensive these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Road Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Well, that's Sky trying it on mate....I do have the full package though. Sport ,films ,Internet,entertainment pack, .. It's proper dear nowadays... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RP London Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Used to have virign at around £120-130 a month.. then also had Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney etc... binned it off around august last year.. just have internet through BT and TV is smart TV with Now TV added to the above (sport on and off when I need it).. havent missed having anything as not quite sure what i dont have now that i had before (obviously didnt watch it whatever it was!) and I'm around £50- 70 better off (depending on the month).. the internet is much better too (he says touching every piece of wood he can find!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Picture Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 On 16/01/2022 at 14:35, Gav Wilson said: Thats totally irrelevant to what you were claiming. Kids under 16 have got in for free at York since 2017. As they should too. Better to have the whole family in for the price of 2 adult tickets than none of them because the adults can't or won't go without the kids and think it's too expensive if they have to pay for the kids as well. There's none of the secondary spend sweaty craig mentioned if they all stay away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav Wilson Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 @GavWilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Gav Wilson said: Lovely set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weloveyouwakefield2 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Gav Wilson said: Gamechanger…. For the championship to have its own TV deal… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Man of Kent said: Lovely set. That took as much time as I expected for a daft comment like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudger06 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 This deal doesn't look to be any good, they are getting the best pick of the round and clubs selected will be worse off financially for it. If it wasn't subscription TV then fine for exposure trade off, but this is for existing RL fans and proper hard-core sports fans that have premier anyway..... As sweaty says better off having them on the app that's been developed through blood sweat and tears.....some free and some ppv..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szymala Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 What is the going rate for this service - is it £12.99 per month ? I'd love to know how many have actually signed up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 32 minutes ago, Gav Wilson said: This is a very smart move from premier sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henson Park Old Firm Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 https://i.imgur.com/V29BNGn.gif 40 minutes ago, Gav Wilson said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrewxi Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Szymala said: What is the going rate for this service - is it £12.99 per month ? I'd love to know how many have actually signed up for it. 60 quod for the year when I signed up... but to be fair they have other stuff on there that I'd be buying to watch too.. so for me a bargain. I did email them and suggested they should explore other League to compliment e.g. the European nations or French or Serbian, or some ncl like they used to put on. I'm not sure I would pay the non-discount rate of 12 quid a month for one championship game a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Frisky Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 18/01/2022 at 09:45, sweaty craiq said: Inside the Championship TV deal - how clubs are planning to put the second-tier on the map - Manchester Evening News Its like finding rocking horse poopoo to get numbers but it is a rough guess that subs will be less than 10000 - less than this were sold in Wales for the Celtic nations RU which also gave you the French T14 RU. So thats about 6-800k of income that production costs are taken from before a club see's a bean, although I heard a rumour that money would be made available to offer cheap tickets to show a better spectacle, which also came off the income. So basically clubs will get a few grand per season at best and probably nothing for being forced to play up to 4 of its best fixtures at home on a Monday night with no restriction on away fixtures. In a few weeks Leigh v Bradford will probably cost Leigh +£50k in gate, sponsorship and secondary sales, Fev v Leigh something similar - away fans will watch it in a local boozer. I few weeks ago I understand clubs were being told the TV money was 50-80k higher than it turned out to be - this may be the RFL holding it back to offset the financial disaster of this deal Yes, let's tell the TV firms we don't want RL on TV as some fans will stay at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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