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4 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Goes to show how little value TWP brought to the game, other than much bigger crowds than anyone else at the same level and enormous media exposure. 

Yep funny how threads rarely get to 100-pages now either. 

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19 minutes ago, Scubby said:

Leeds v Hull 11,552

Feels like that could have been worse on a Thursday in direct competition with LUFC. 

It looked a lower crowd, that new main stand doesn't look great does it? 

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17 minutes ago, Dave T said:

Feels like that could have been worse on a Thursday in direct competition with LUFC. 

It looked a lower crowd, that new main stand doesn't look great does it? 

It feels like the stand was build as a corporate area first and stand second. Also, as someone else said, the move ticket holders to the South Stand during construction and many of them probably never returned.

It also could have more character and feel more like Leeds Rhinos. It feels like someone else's stand a little.

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18 minutes ago, Scubby said:

It feels like the stand was build as a corporate area first and stand second. Also, as someone else said, the move ticket holders to the South Stand during construction and many of them probably never returned.

It also could have more character and feel more like Leeds Rhinos. It feels like someone else's stand a little.

I don't think that's by accident to be honest. 

I don't think it's unfair to say that the Leeds strategy seems to be focused on pushing a more premium offering (at least off the pitch), and to that extent, having fewer people paying more is probably a sign of success. I don't think Hetherington would lose sleep over the empty seats in the north stand if the restaurant upstairs was throwing out thousands of chicken dinners every matchday. 

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7 minutes ago, whatmichaelsays said:

I don't think that's by accident to be honest. 

I don't think it's unfair to say that the Leeds strategy seems to be focused on pushing a more premium offering (at least off the pitch), and to that extent, having fewer people paying more is probably a sign of success. I don't think Hetherington would lose sleep over the empty seats in the north stand if the restaurant upstairs was throwing out thousands of chicken dinners every matchday. 

I'm not sure success is having so many empty seats in their premium stand that faces the camera. 

I get the point you are making, and the premium offering should be applauded, we don't do enough of that in RL, but empty main stand seats are a challenge. 

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1 minute ago, Dave T said:

I'm not sure success is having so many empty seats in their premium stand that faces the camera. 

I get the point you are making, and the premium offering should be applauded, we don't do enough of that in RL, but empty main stand seats are a challenge. 

they should be selling those seats before considering opening the seats in south stand surely

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32 minutes ago, Scubby said:

 

It also could have more character and feel more like Leeds Rhinos. It feels like someone else's stand a little.

On this point, I definitely agree, and I'm not sure why they went with the dark blue, which is at odds with the iconic seating area that was previously there and doesn't match what is in the stand behind the goals. 

I think what Leeds have been able to do with modernising their existing ground is outstanding, and all clubs should be applauded for improving facilities, but it is way off the way SKS describes it. 

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1 minute ago, Spidey said:

they should be selling those seats before considering opening the seats in south stand surely

I suppose they are seen as different offerings. The South Stand may be the rowdier cheaper seats and the North the premium offering. I think its fine if they are positioned as different levels (I have no idea if they are), but whichever way it is, they have many, many empty seats facing the cameras. A problem not exclusive to Leeds, but one that is new at Leeds that they have created. 

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33 minutes ago, Scubby said:

It feels like the stand was build as a corporate area first and stand second. Also, as someone else said, the move ticket holders to the South Stand during construction and many of them probably never returned.

It also could have more character and feel more like Leeds Rhinos. It feels like someone else's stand a little.

The stadium isn't the issue, what they have done to modernise an old stadium is fantastic IMO.

 

The issue is the fair being served up on the field, ever since the stadium has been renovated the team and performances have fallen well short of what had gone the previous 15+years.

If Leeds can get back to being anything like they should be there will be a difference in both atmosphere and attendances.

 

Also Thursday nights are terrible and we seem to have had non stop Thursday night games in crappy weather, unfortunately the first Friday night home game will be against Saints and if they don't change their attitude quickly it will be an utter embarrassment.

 

Ive said this on the Leeds forum but as a usually optimistic Rhinos fan Im really despondent at the moment

 

The performances on the field

The state of the pitch

The sub par Kit and apparel supplier pedalling cheap tat on sale every week

The Thursday nights in terrible weather (it was nice last night to be fair)

All are making life as Leeds supporter fairly miserable at the moment, a club the size of Leeds with the facilities they have should be doing better in every respect.

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5 minutes ago, Spidey said:

they should be selling those seats before considering opening the seats in south stand surely

The Southstand is the most popular stand, it would be commercial madness to close that before selling out the North Stand.

As I said above its not the stadium that's the issue.

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4 minutes ago, Dave T said:

I suppose they are seen as different offerings. The South Stand may be the rowdier cheaper seats and the North the premium offering. I think its fine if they are positioned as different levels (I have no idea if they are), but whichever way it is, they have many, many empty seats facing the cameras. A problem not exclusive to Leeds, but one that is new at Leeds that they have created. 

The club can't run the risk of not selling as many tickets just to satisfy crowd spotters on TV, the South Stand is the go to stand at Leeds and there wasn't really an option to put the tv gantry on the other side due to it being a shared stand between corporate, the rugby and Cricket.

Moving the camera position won't solve the issue of falling attendances, the plan should be to fill that stand not hide it away

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Just now, Chrispmartha said:

The club can't run the risk of not selling as many tickets just to satisfy crowd spotters on TV, the South Stand is the go to stand at Leeds and there wasn't really an option to put the tv gantry on the other side due to it being a shared stand between corporate, the rugby and Cricket.

Moving the camera position won't solve the issue of falling attendances, the plan should be to fill that stand not hide it away

Yes, the point is not to shuffle cameras or move fans around, it is to sell those seats with the fans that have stopped going to Headingley. There are a few k missing from recent years. 

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1 minute ago, Dave T said:

Yes, the point is not to shuffle cameras or move fans around, it is to sell those seats with the fans that have stopped going to Headingley. There are a few k missing from recent years. 

Agreed and its no coincidence that those few K are missing when the stuff served up on the pitch is sub par.

Sort the on field stuff out and we will see crowds return, going to watch the tripe served up last night is not an enjoyable way to send an evening.

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12 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:

The stadium isn't the issue, what they have done to modernise an old stadium is fantastic IMO.

 

The issue is the fair being served up on the field, ever since the stadium has been renovated the team and performances have fallen well short of what had gone the previous 15+years.

If Leeds can get back to being anything like they should be there will be a difference in both atmosphere and attendances.

 

Also Thursday nights are terrible and we seem to have had non stop Thursday night games in crappy weather, unfortunately the first Friday night home game will be against Saints and if they don't change their attitude quickly it will be an utter embarrassment.

 

Ive said this on the Leeds forum but as a usually optimistic Rhinos fan Im really despondent at the moment

 

The performances on the field

The state of the pitch

The sub par Kit and apparel supplier pedalling cheap tat on sale every week

The Thursday nights in terrible weather (it was nice last night to be fair)

All are making life as Leeds supporter fairly miserable at the moment, a club the size of Leeds with the facilities they have should be doing better in every respect.

Yep, what's going on at Leeds has a very familiar story to Agar's last 6-12 months at both Hull and Wakefield. Leeds need to invest in the right places and the coach is crucial. 

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I had a bit of a rant last night with my dad on a late walk to tesco after two poor offerings from both my teams. Emotion aside, it was useful to some extent.

In regards Headingley, they have built a corporate suite and stuck a rugby ground next to it. And they can't even sell out that stand anymore which looks rubbish. (From a slightly OCD irritance the tunnel is off centre too).

The South Stand has been neutered somewhat, by introducing seating and the press area there.

All this done with seemingly zero consultation with fans, even season ticket holders.

The pitch is worse than the performances, just.

The kits are ###### quality. And we get 5 a season that are full price for 4 weeks then discounted.

It seems like Leeds do the high end corporate stuff really well, but the stuff for the normal supporter is cheap as possible and they have taken their eye off the ball completely.

Edit: oh and what is going on with the Coach. For a temporary stint till he recruits his successor this is going on for ages.

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2 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

It does seem to raise the question as to why they put a seating area in the South Stand when there generally seemed to be ample spare seats in the North and East Stands. 

Maybe it was a stadium management decision? There was occasionally some rowdy action right at the back of the old South Stand. 

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The middle sections of the North Stand are almost always sold out (or close to). The problem seems to be getting these ticket holders to take their seats. Do they not show up at all? Are they enjoying the game somewhere else in the stadium?

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1 minute ago, Leyther_Matt said:

It does seem to raise the question as to why they put a seating area in the South Stand when there generally seemed to be ample spare seats in the North and East Stands. 

Because it meant the capacity was larger than if it was all standing because its two tiered, the South Stand is generally almost full, the stadium layout really is not the issue, if the north stand was full but the southstand was half empty the crowds would still be low, shuffling fans around to pacify tv watchers is not a solution to falling crowds.

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7 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

It does seem to raise the question as to why they put a seating area in the South Stand when there generally seemed to be ample spare seats in the North and East Stands. 

Because they decided to move the press to the South Stand (so they could have more corporate spaces in the North Stand) so they couldn't have all standing is my honest opinion.

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1 minute ago, Tommygilf said:

I had a bit of a rant last night with my dad on a late walk to tesco after two poor offerings from both my teams. Emotion aside, it was useful to some extent.

In regards Headingley, they have built a corporate suite and stuck a rugby ground next to it. And they can't even sell out that stand anymore which looks rubbish. (From a slightly OCD irritance the tunnel is off centre too).

The South Stand has been neutered somewhat, by introducing seating and the press area there.

All this done with seemingly zero consultation with fans, even season ticket holders.

The pitch is worse than the performances, just.

The kits are ###### quality. And we get 5 a season that are full price for 4 weeks then discounted.

It seems like Leeds do the high end corporate stuff really well, but the stuff for the normal supporter is cheap as possible and they have taken their eye off the ball completely.

I agree with a lot of that but as I keep saying I personally don’t think the stadium layout is the issue, Headingley is a fabulous stadium to watch RL, no stadium however good is a great place to watch what Leeds are serving up on the pitch.

 

I couldn’t agree with you anymore on the  quality of kit and merchandise, it is utterly dreadful a club the size of Leeds should be aiming much higher than cheap tat being released every month and weekly knock down sales.

The stadium is the only thing they have done well with over the last 5 years

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3 minutes ago, Archie Gordon said:

The middle sections of the North Stand are almost always sold out (or close to). The problem seems to be getting these ticket holders to take their seats. Do they not show up at all? Are they enjoying the game somewhere else in the stadium?

Its a corporate banqueting suite, why would they take their seats outside??

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4 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:

Because it meant the capacity was larger than if it was all standing because its two tiered, the South Stand is generally almost full, the stadium layout really is not the issue, if the north stand was full but the southstand was half empty the crowds would still be low, shuffling fans around to pacify tv watchers is not a solution to falling crowds.

I don’t think the capacity would be vastly different with a larger lower tier of terracing only rather than the current two tiers. 

Just now, Tommygilf said:

Because they decided to move the press to the South Stand (so they could have more corporate spaces in the North Stand) so they couldn't have all standing is my honest opinion.

The magic C word probably nails it here though. 

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Just now, Chrispmartha said:

I agree with a lot of that but as I keep saying I personally don’t think the stadium layout is the issue, Headingley is a fabulous stadium to watch RL, no stadium however good is a great place to watch what Leeds are serving up on the pitch.

 

I couldn’t agree with you anymore on the  quality of kit and merchandise, it is utterly dreadful a club the size of Leeds should be aiming much higher than cheap tat being released every month and weekly knock down sales.

The stadium is the only thing they have done well with over the last 5 years

The one game I have been to where it was full, Burrow's benefit game, it was fantastic. 

Unfortunately its not been like that since.

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