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49 minutes ago, redjonn said:

maybe before your period but did any fans really care who where the premiership winners.

I remember it being a good day out - I couldn't tell you how seriously other people took it.

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

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1 minute ago, gingerjon said:

I remember it being a good day out - I couldn't tell you how seriously other people took it.

This. It was a gala feel to the end of the season. I was there for the first double header at Old Trafford as a kid and loved it. I'd never been to a premiership final before that as a standalone.

Nice to be in and win but good day out in mid-May for all.

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19 minutes ago, Jughead said:

That neither addresses the problems with the Challenge Cup or Super League and only resolves to end loop fixtures. 

It’s SL arrogance to fix their problem by impacting other clubs. Isolate the issues to the completion date involved. There are two problems come up with two plans

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I think the reason the cup is less prestigious than it used to be is that until the early 90s the difference in strength of the top 20 or so clubs wasn't that huge, regardless of division, so the cup was a genuine measure of success in the game which those 20 or so clubs could aspire to. 

Now, only the 12 full time clubs can realistically expect to prosper in the cup, in fact probably only about 10 of them.

And we all know that the league is the best measure of who are the top clubs of those 10, so the cup becomes a sideshow. It's not really a measure of anything. 

I don't see how you resolve this without undermining the basis of our full time tier - which we absolutely shouldn't do - so I think muddling along with what we have is the best we can hope for with the cup. 

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1 hour ago, GUBRATS said:

It would help if we all didn't know who was going to win it 🙁

A lot of European football Leagues (Bundesliga being the prime example) get huge crowds, even when the winner is certain before the season kicks off. 

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1 hour ago, Scubby said:

This is a multiple merged thread. Harry could probably slip a new Leigh signing in here too!

You will know about it has it happens, oh yes you are not interested in who "Rugby Leigh"🤫 sign, but just like @Davo5curiosity will keep you pressing the link.

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Since shorter routes to the final were brought in for the 2015 Challenge Cup competition, we’ve had nine different finalists in the seven finals, which could be ten if Huddersfield beat Hull KR in a couple of weeks. Since the start of the 2015 season, we’ve had sixteen different clubs in Super League of which Toronto never saw out the season and Toulouse choose not to compete in the Challenge Cup, so we could be looking at 10 out of 14 “elite” clubs over an eight year period having competed in a Challenge Cup Final. For all of the stick the cup’s early rounds get, the positive, IMO, is the variety of clubs we see in the final. We could well also be looking at a sixth different winner in the past six years should Wigan beat Saints at Elland Road. 

I also don’t really care much for the finals being a forgone conclusion, either. Cas lead at half time last year and were good value for their lead, Leeds only in beat Salford by one point the year before that, Warrington the year before were underdogs and beat Saints, Catalans were the underdogs and beat Warrington the previous year and Hull were quite possibly underdogs against both Warrington and Wigan, going back-to-back. 

I think the cup gets some unwarranted stick and we often focus on the crowds when the action on the pitch is exciting and entertaining throughout all rounds. 

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1 hour ago, Eddie said:

A lot of European football Leagues (Bundesliga being the prime example) get huge crowds, even when the winner is certain before the season kicks off. 

Only really Germany and France, the other leagues are quite competitive,  particularly Italy that now seen a resurgence in both Milan teams. Anyway in football there's European places to play for not just the title. 

More pertinent comparison is the worrying Huddersfield Giants situation. Doing great this season,  very entertaining,  but crowds disappointing compared to HTFC, who got 18, 379 last night. Don't know why, I tried watching it but it was very poor and dull.

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1 hour ago, Jughead said:

Since shorter routes to the final were brought in for the 2015 Challenge Cup competition, we’ve had nine different finalists in the seven finals, which could be ten if Huddersfield beat Hull KR in a couple of weeks. Since the start of the 2015 season, we’ve had sixteen different clubs in Super League of which Toronto never saw out the season and Toulouse choose not to compete in the Challenge Cup, so we could be looking at 10 out of 14 “elite” clubs over an eight year period having competed in a Challenge Cup Final. For all of the stick the cup’s early rounds get, the positive, IMO, is the variety of clubs we see in the final. We could well also be looking at a sixth different winner in the past six years should Wigan beat Saints at Elland Road. 

I also don’t really care much for the finals being a forgone conclusion, either. Cas lead at half time last year and were good value for their lead, Leeds only in beat Salford by one point the year before that, Warrington the year before were underdogs and beat Saints, Catalans were the underdogs and beat Warrington the previous year and Hull were quite possibly underdogs against both Warrington and Wigan, going back-to-back. 

I think the cup gets some unwarranted stick and we often focus on the crowds when the action on the pitch is exciting and entertaining throughout all rounds. 

Couldn't agree more. For any faults the comp may have overall, the finals have generally been great, had plenty of variety and some great moments with underdog victories. 

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3 hours ago, Jughead said:

Since shorter routes to the final were brought in for the 2015 Challenge Cup competition, we’ve had nine different finalists in the seven finals, which could be ten if Huddersfield beat Hull KR in a couple of weeks. Since the start of the 2015 season, we’ve had sixteen different clubs in Super League of which Toronto never saw out the season and Toulouse choose not to compete in the Challenge Cup, so we could be looking at 10 out of 14 “elite” clubs over an eight year period having competed in a Challenge Cup Final. For all of the stick the cup’s early rounds get, the positive, IMO, is the variety of clubs we see in the final. We could well also be looking at a sixth different winner in the past six years should Wigan beat Saints at Elland Road. 

I also don’t really care much for the finals being a forgone conclusion, either. Cas lead at half time last year and were good value for their lead, Leeds only in beat Salford by one point the year before that, Warrington the year before were underdogs and beat Saints, Catalans were the underdogs and beat Warrington the previous year and Hull were quite possibly underdogs against both Warrington and Wigan, going back-to-back. 

I think the cup gets some unwarranted stick and we often focus on the crowds when the action on the pitch is exciting and entertaining throughout all rounds. 

Hear hear! 

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3 hours ago, HawkMan said:

Only really Germany and France, the other leagues are quite competitive,  particularly Italy that now seen a resurgence in both Milan teams. Anyway in football there's European places to play for not just the title. 

More pertinent comparison is the worrying Huddersfield Giants situation. Doing great this season,  very entertaining,  but crowds disappointing compared to HTFC, who got 18, 379 last night. Don't know why, I tried watching it but it was very poor and dull.

Can't compare football to rugby league, can't compare football to anything really.

But Huddersfield just isn't a big rugby town, it's a student and commuter town now, and most casual sports fans in and around the town are only interested in football.

Add into that, a team doing well, looking to get into the top flight for only the 2nd time in 50 years and it was £10 a ticket, which for casual football fans is an absolute bargain, they're also charging £10 for tickets for their next game and have had a few games recently as little as £5.

The Giants would be hammered as usual if they made games £5 and £10.

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7 hours ago, meast said:

Can't compare football to rugby league, can't compare football to anything really.

But Huddersfield just isn't a big rugby town, it's a student and commuter town now, and most casual sports fans in and around the town are only interested in football.

Add into that, a team doing well, looking to get into the top flight for only the 2nd time in 50 years and it was £10 a ticket, which for casual football fans is an absolute bargain, they're also charging £10 for tickets for their next game and have had a few games recently as little as £5.

The Giants would be hammered as usual if they made games £5 and £10.

You often hear about places that aren’t Rugby towns, I mean it’s an odd argument to make about Huddersfield who have been around since the sports very beginning and is literally the town Rugby League was invented in and sits slap bang in the middle of the M62 Super League. But when Toronto could attract 7000+ fans and Cornwall got over 1400 for their opening fixture fans clearly can be attracted to go games in places that are not big Rugby towns. 

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5 hours ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

You often hear about places that aren’t Rugby towns, I mean it’s an odd argument to make about Huddersfield who have been around since the sports very beginning and is literally the town Rugby League was invented in and sits slap bang in the middle of the M62 Super League. But when Toronto could attract 7000+ fans and Cornwall got over 1400 for their opening fixture fans clearly can be attracted to go games in places that are not big Rugby towns. 

And what happened to Toronto? what will happen to Cornwall? Remember how London, Carlisle, Cardiff, Kent, etc attracted good numbers early on in their short lived expansion dreams? that argument is a rubbish one!

Huddersfield is the birthplace of the game, but that was out of convenience and geography not because it's a hotbed of the game, again, people using that argument to suggest Huddersfield should be pulling bigger crowds is a rubbish one!

Come up with something a bit more substantial and thoughtful.

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8 hours ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

You often hear about places that aren’t Rugby towns, I mean it’s an odd argument to make about Huddersfield who have been around since the sports very beginning and is literally the town Rugby League was invented in and sits slap bang in the middle of the M62 Super League. But when Toronto could attract 7000+ fans and Cornwall got over 1400 for their opening fixture fans clearly can be attracted to go games in places that are not big Rugby towns. 

Possibly because they were/are new and exciting, rather than something that’s been around locally for years so therefore isn’t. 

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8,922 in Perpignan, not the sell out that the Toulouse hysterics on this forum always promised us before they got promoted but obviously a Thursday night didn’t help and I expect there were fewer away fans than most SL teams take over there, so all in all a decent attendance. 

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2 minutes ago, Eddie said:

8,922 in Perpignan, not the sell out that the Toulouse hysterics on this forum always promised us before they got promoted but obviously a Thursday night didn’t help and I expect there were fewer away fans than most SL teams take over there, so all in all a decent attendance. 

Not a bad gate and as you say Thursday night isn’t the best for a lot of people. 

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16 minutes ago, Eddie said:

8,922 in Perpignan, not the sell out that the Toulouse hysterics on this forum always promised us before they got promoted but obviously a Thursday night didn’t help and I expect there were fewer away fans than most SL teams take over there, so all in all a decent attendance. 

Its a near enough 3 hour drive each way. Utter stupidity to arrange this for a Thursday.

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