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1 hour ago, soulboy said:

A lot of areas of Warrington ( Penketh , Sankey , Cinnamon Brow , Birchwood , Westbrook , Chapelford , Whittlehall , Barrowhall ) have large overspill from Liverpool and Manchester , with some estates dating back to the early 60s .

Most of these folk still resonate to football ( Everton , Liverpool, City and United ) and see RL as an afterthought.

I’ve seen Warrington Bank Quay and Warrington Central packed with fans going to home games at one of the above stations . So to say that the amount that travel to football is minuscule is incorrect.

Having lived in Penketh for 62 years and an avid RL supporter, the game is still seen as untrendy and not hip.

Also the new breed of Warrington fan just know RL as Superleague. Rugby League pre HJ stadium means nothing to them and they have nil interest in the rich heritage and history of the sport .


A prime example of this is that the 3 RLWC trophies where on show yesterday in the middle of Warrington , the interest was virtually non existent , yet there was a home game on against Huddersfield. 
 

Whatever people think , Warrington is a football loving town and RL comes second .

 

 

 

But Warrington still pull bigger crowd then Warrington Football and Rugby Union ?

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11 minutes ago, EggFace said:

But Warrington still pull bigger crowd then Warrington Football and Rugby Union ?

Not everyone that likes football in Warrington sports the town's football team. In fact, I'd say it's less 0.01% of football fans in the town.

The percentages of rugby league fans supporting the rugby league team would likely be in the 90% region. That's why it's pointless comparing.

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On 22/04/2022 at 21:45, M j M said:

Toulouse more attractive to Leeds fans than Huddersfield were. Attendance tonight 11,167.

 

On 23/04/2022 at 07:43, Eddie said:

We keep hearing from certain posters that Leeds’ low crowds are because they have so many Thursday games and they’ll go up on the preferred Friday, so for a club who were averaging 15k+ not long ago, 11k on a Friday night is worryingly low.

 

On 23/04/2022 at 08:23, Eddie said:

Wearing thin isn’t it. Leeds and Wigan’s haemorrhaging of fans is one of the most worrying aspects of the game, and neither club seem bothered about it. 

I believe this worryingly low attendance was actually the best attendance of any game in the UK this weekend. Leeds are once again the best supported club in the country.

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38 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

 

 

I believe this worryingly low attendance was actually the best attendance of any game in the UK this weekend. Leeds are once again the best supported club in the country.

Plus this Friday they had to compete with Leeds Knights Ice hockey team playing (only 1300 but felt like an RL crowd) and Leeds United U23s playing Man City U23s at Elland Road...the attendance for the U23s was over 21k! 

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39 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

 

 

I believe this worryingly low attendance was actually the best attendance of any game in the UK this weekend. Leeds are once again the best supported club in the country.

Do you not think that as the biggest population centre to have a fully professional rugby league club in the UK they should?

Regardless of form, results, league position, training ground floods etc, Leeds should be the best supported club in the country.

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3 hours ago, GUBRATS said:

Hope you enjoyed your visit to the LSV , I really felt for your lads , never stopped but totally outclassed 

It wasn't a good spectacle and a big worry for the rest of the season. Enjoyed the visit though cheers and taking in a RL match in general, totally hooked to the sport now and will go back and see the Broncos soon. The away support was either 4 or 6 as a couple of guys at the back may have been Leigh fans 😟

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Just now, London Balham Bronco said:

It wasn't a good spectacle and a big worry for the rest of the season. Enjoyed the visit though cheers and taking in a RL match in general, totally hooked to the sport now and will go back and see the Broncos soon. The away support was either 4 or 6 as a couple of guys at the back may have been Leigh fans 😟

You were spared the " you must have come in a taxi " song , not the best of games today , I was trying to ' gee up ' the lads in black when stood waiting behind the sticks in the 2 Nd half ,they probably thought I was taking the #### 

Not looking good for them , which worrys me , not good for the sport when a game is over after 12 minutes 

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4 hours ago, EggFace said:

But Warrington still pull bigger crowd then Warrington Football and Rugby Union ?

All the football fans in Warrington watch either  City , United , Everton or Liverpool.

And thankfully Rah Rah is irrelevant.

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8 hours ago, Eddie said:

9.1k at Hull this evening. Not too bad considering the kick off time and lack of away support. 

 

On 23/04/2022 at 07:43, Eddie said:

11k on a Friday night is worryingly low.

How is it that 9100 is not too bad, but 11,167 is worryingly low?

I thought Sunday was the preferred day for a lot of fans, surely 5:30pm is a reasonable time of day.  Both games were against French clubs with a similar number of away support.

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54 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

 

How is it that 9100 is not too bad, but 11,167 is worryingly low?

I thought Sunday was the preferred day for a lot of fans, surely 5:30pm is a reasonable time of day.  Both games were against French clubs with a similar number of away support.

It’s not too bad in comparison to their usual support. Hull weren’t averaging 16k a few seasons ago and are also in a smaller city than Leeds with two SL teams. 

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34 minutes ago, Eddie said:

It’s not too bad in comparison to their usual support. Hull weren’t averaging 16k a few seasons ago and are also in a smaller city than Leeds with two SL teams. 

Leeds played Toulouse at home in the Super 8’s in 2018 and got 10,100

What year did Leeds average 16,000?

Edit, I’ve had a look, I believe Leeds have only averaged above 15k in 2 seasons at the height of the golden period, these came when Leeds won the Grand Final in 07, 08, 09, 11, 12, 15. Even during this time most seasons we were under 15k and under 13k in some years.

Hull averaged between 11,114 and 14,014 in this time.

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2 hours ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

Leeds played Toulouse at home in the Super 8’s in 2018 and got 10,100

What year did Leeds average 16,000?

Edit, I’ve had a look, I believe Leeds have only averaged above 15k in 2 seasons at the height of the golden period, these came when Leeds won the Grand Final in 07, 08, 09, 11, 12, 15. Even during this time most seasons we were under 15k and under 13k in some years.

Hull averaged between 11,114 and 14,014 in this time.

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Ok fair enough I thought it was 16k, but even so 15k down to 11k is a massive drop off. I wouldn’t use the unpopular Super 8s as a comparison either. 

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1 hour ago, Eddie said:

Ok fair enough I thought it was 16k, but even so 15k down to 11k is a massive drop off. I wouldn’t use the unpopular Super 8s as a comparison either. 

Again a few points.

15K was our peak average at the height of being the most successful club in the history of the sport.

Of course we are not matching that figure sitting in 11th with 2 wins from 10.

Our average isn’t 11k and will be well above that for 2022.

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38 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

Again a few points.

15K was our peak average at the height of being the most successful club in the history of the sport.

Of course we are not matching that figure sitting in 11th with 2 wins from 10.

Our average isn’t 11k and will be well above that for 2022.

It is a fact that Leeds aren't the most successful club in the history of the sport. In fact for much of their history they were chronic underachievers.

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1 hour ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

Again a few points.

15K was our peak average at the height of being the most successful club in the history of the sport.

Of course we are not matching that figure sitting in 11th with 2 wins from 10.

Our average isn’t 11k and will be well above that for 2022.

Most successful club in the history of the sport 😂😂😂 How is things on that other planet ?

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1 hour ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

Again a few points.

15K was our peak average at the height of being the most successful club in the history of the sport.

Of course we are not matching that figure sitting in 11th with 2 wins from 10.

Our average isn’t 11k and will be well above that for 2022.

As you appear to have correctly identified, it is only to be expected that clubs will lose fans when they're on a poor run. People want to watch a successful team. As that poor run gets longer, the loss escalates. Many people are drawn to watch the sport because members of their family and/or peer group take them along to a match. As existing fans turn away from their club, there are fewer people to take that tranche of potential fans along.

Wakefield haven't won anything of significance since the early 1960s, nor have Huddersfield, barring a solitary LLS. Salford haven't won anything of significance since the 1970s. It's worth bearing that in mind next time you start wanging on about their attendances. You won't, of course, because this playground level Leeds-are-big-an'-ace-an'-Wakefield-an'-Huddersfield-an'-Salford-are-small-an'-poo line that you like to shovel is all you've got.

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17 hours ago, kiwi rhino said:

Plus this Friday they had to compete with Leeds Knights Ice hockey team playing (only 1300 but felt like an RL crowd) and Leeds United U23s playing Man City U23s at Elland Road...the attendance for the U23s was over 21k! 

I wish Football was not as big...can't stand the game and culture.

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5 hours ago, Hammerless Nail said:

As you appear to have correctly identified, it is only to be expected that clubs will lose fans when they're on a poor run. People want to watch a successful team. As that poor run gets longer, the loss escalates. Many people are drawn to watch the sport because members of their family and/or peer group take them along to a match. As existing fans turn away from their club, there are fewer people to take that tranche of potential fans along.

Wakefield haven't won anything of significance since the early 1960s, nor have Huddersfield, barring a solitary LLS. Salford haven't won anything of significance since the 1970s. It's worth bearing that in mind next time you start wanging on about their attendances. You won't, of course, because this playground level Leeds-are-big-an'-ace-an'-Wakefield-an'-Huddersfield-an'-Salford-are-small-an'-poo line that you like to shovel is all you've got.

Ahem... Wakefield were back to back champions in 1967 and 1968, so much more recent than the early 60s 😉

It is though one of the major factors in retaining fans. Castleford and Featherstone have had more success in living memory. 

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23 hours ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

 

 

I believe this worryingly low attendance was actually the best attendance of any game in the UK this weekend. Leeds are once again the best supported club in the country.

Yes that's true if you exclude the club with the highest crowds this year that is. 

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14 hours ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

 

How is it that 9100 is not too bad, but 11,167 is worryingly low?

I thought Sunday was the preferred day for a lot of fans, surely 5:30pm is a reasonable time of day.  Both games were against French clubs with a similar number of away support.

You do appear to struggle with context. 

If Salford and Leeds both get 9k at their next home games, they won't both be equally good. 

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On 23/04/2022 at 09:36, cookey said:

Varsity 2022, May 4, University of Leeds RUFC  v  Leeds Beckett University, an 18,000 sell out at Headingley. Wonder how much beer they will sell?!

Plenty of pished up students and a few drunk & disorderly’s id imagine on the day. Do rugby u**** fans blame football hooligans if they have any bother at their matches. Although if they still don’t boo an opponent going for goal 

 

On 23/04/2022 at 10:27, GUBRATS said:

Students up for a ###### up 

What does that have anything to do with RL ?

Do they have any bother at u**** games or are they all jolly good chaps. If there is any bother do they blame football hooligans like a lot of RL fans like too point the finger at, 

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