Thu 17 Feb: SL: Warrington Wolves v Castleford Tigers KO 20:00 (Sky)

[Kenilworth Tiger]

5 minutes ago, Dave T said:

I'd agree with the first para, it was a slow first half, but it was an intercept and a disallowed try that made the score look more lobsided than the half was in reality. 

When Cas scored early 2nd half I thought it was game on. But the capitulation by Cas has to be a worry. 

I disagree with you on the interview. He had an open question to start and he brought up the penalty count as the reason they lost. When then asked about discipline (because of hin bringing it up) he was stroppy. 

Ah OK fair enough, I wasn't particularly engaged by that point!

[Dave T]

1 minute ago, Kenilworth Tiger said:

Ah OK fair enough, I wasn't particularly engaged by that point!

Not surprised mate. Hope it gets better for you guys soon! 

[ivans82]

Thought Cas were very poor , but the intercept and 2 tries coming from penalties given when it appeared to me anyway the player in possession just lost control of the ball didn!t help . Warrington looked better this week than last week and have threats all over the pitch , half backs and Ratchford key to their season .

[Damien]

1 hour ago, Dave T said:

Most important thing of the night, Whizee Rascal now has almost half a million views on the SKY sports RL Twitter account

It's gone viral and being shared by all sorts of people and accounts... 

Made the BBC Breakfast sports section too

[Desert Skipper]

19 minutes ago, Kenilworth Tiger said:

Ah OK fair enough, I wasn't particularly engaged by that point!

The bit that came across really badly on the interview was the last part. Something along the lines of (in a sarcastic tone of voice): “Well it was 10-4 against us in the penalty count and they had 3 to 1 in set restarts… somehow they must be much better disciplined, I don’t know”.

That was really poor and was the sort of thing you’d usually hear from a coach about to be fired, rather than at the start of a season.

[GeordieSaint]

1 hour ago, Dave T said:

One thing I will say for Wire's pack, despite being lightweight we have a lot of workhorses who are technically sound. I think we need some dynamism and impact players there, but we do have a pack that will work hard and get stuck in. Against a very big Wigan pack in the friendly they stood up well. It'll be interesting to see whether a pack that includes Cooper, Harrison and Clarke in addition to last night is good enough. 

Defensively, the team look very solid. The question is can the pack sustain being battered by a bigger opponent consistently to win the big games. Last week, they did - survived the onslaught by Leeds. As Williams said last week, they’ll have to improve significantly when playing against the better teams like Saints and Catalan. Saints are relentless so be interesting to see if Warrington can match it. 

[dkw]

10 minutes ago, Desert Skipper said:

The bit that came across really badly on the interview was the last part. Something along the lines of (in a sarcastic tone of voice): “Well it was 10-4 against us in the penalty count and they had 3 to 1 in set restarts… somehow they must be much better disciplined, I don’t know”.

That was really poor and was the sort of thing you’d usually hear from a coach about to be fired, rather than at the start of a season.

"Somehow"..."I don't know"....what idiotic things to say, won't instill confidence in him with the players will it. 2 games in and he's saying things like that.

[CiderWire]

Cas's performance last night reminded me in many ways of Warrington at their worst, poor discipline and rudderless sprinkled with intermittent patches of excellence. They will get better I'm sure and I think those calling for the head of Radford at this stage are being a little unkind.

On the positives for Wire, although definitely underweight in the forwards the fitness and endeavour shown from all was there to see, line speed in defence, kept going for the full 80 minutes, went a long way in neutralising the advances of a much bigger opposition and discipline was of a much better standard.  The forwards were never going to punch any holes down the middle but this didn't stop them trying.  I still think we look a little bit laboured when attacking in the oppositions 20 though.  I think there may be a positive vibe around the HJ!!

[dkw]

3 minutes ago, CiderWire said:

Cas's performance last night reminded me in many ways of Warrington at their worst, !!

I think it reminded me more of Hull towards the end of Radfords term as coach, directionless, relient on big lads running it in, lacking in commitment and effort in defence and attack and incredibly indiscipline.

[Barry Badrinath]

55 minutes ago, Kenilworth Tiger said:

I thought we were OK in the first 40 minutes and unlucky to be 12 down - second half was absolutely horrific and Millwardesque - Other than Westerman I don't see one signing that is an improvement on his predecessor which is a huge worry for me.

 

As for the Radford interview I don't actually believe he was blaming the penalty count on the loss - he was asked a direct question specifically about the penalty count and said we would have to look closely at them - poor questioning and very little time in my view

 

Within 8 days I've gone from "cannot wait for the season to start and reckon we can get into the playoffs"  to "we're in a relegation battle aren't we?"

Oh well......

Westerman looked ok last night, typical joe performance, good offloads, dumb shoulder charge penalty which he was offended over.

 

Recruiting a number of former hull fc players, that got him the bullet at hull fc is a questionable recruitment strategy, especially when faraimo can't tackle below the neck, and mahe fonua looks like he's eaten justin carney.

 

Cheyse blair is terrible, i've never understood why they cas signed him.

[Cw25]

Cannot stand Powell.  Nearly everytime the camera goes on him he is opening his mouth, moaning. Coach of a class team, Looks miserable enough to be at Hornets !.

[weloveyouwakefield2]

2 hours ago, Damien said:

Made the BBC Breakfast sports section too

 

[JohnM]

2 hours ago, Cw25 said:

Cannot stand Powell.  Nearly everytime the camera goes on him he is opening his mouth, moaning. Coach of a class team, Looks miserable enough to be at Hornets !.

Shame, especially as he speaks so highly of you.

[Jughead]

Warrington are to release a statement this afternoon regarding the incidents with the Cas coaches after the game last night. 

[redjonn]

47 minutes ago, Jughead said:

Warrington are to release a statement this afternoon regarding the incidents with the Cas coaches after the game last night. 

As always a small minority cause such incidents.  

Personally we do have a issue across a number of SL clubs fans in my own personal experience over the years.  Normally some drunks giving abuse as we normally sit in the seating area's amongst a mix of fans.

Although on a personal experience we haven't had problems at Warrington.  At Saints, Wigan, Hull in particular and regularly such that my wife won't travel to those games anymore as its more often women shouting drunken abuse up close.

[Phil]

6 hours ago, Dave T said:

Most important thing of the night, Whizee Rascal now has almost half a million views on the SKY sports RL Twitter account

It's gone viral and being shared by all sorts of people and accounts... 

I loved it, but unfortunately social media has a share of posters saying it “made the game a laughing stock” god forbid any of us get stuck next to one of these miserable so and so’s on a bus or train, I think I’d throw myself under the wheels 

[MZH]

Radford loves making excuses. Give it a few weeks and it won't just be the refs fault. It'll be the fans fault too. Not to mention the various players that will get singled out in public.

[ELBOWSEYE]

6 minutes ago, Phil said:

I loved it, but unfortunately social media has a share of posters saying it “made the game a laughing stock” god forbid any of us get stuck next to one of these miserable so and so’s on a bus or train, I think I’d throw myself under the wheels 

Nothing but positive, people who have no interest in the sport are talking about it. At the ground everyone loved it, the boy was walking round the stadium later absolutely loving it. 

[Dave T]

14 minutes ago, Phil said:

I loved it, but unfortunately social media has a share of posters saying it “made the game a laughing stock” god forbid any of us get stuck next to one of these miserable so and so’s on a bus or train, I think I’d throw myself under the wheels 

 

5 minutes ago, ELBOWSEYE said:

Nothing but positive, people who have no interest in the sport are talking about it. At the ground everyone loved it, the boy was walking round the stadium later absolutely loving it. 

Yep we do need to be careful in giving too much prominence to negative views. I've been following it a lot, and have honestly seen only one (very mild) negative comment. 

[ELBOWSEYE]

8 minutes ago, ELBOWSEYE said:

Nothing but positive, people who have no interest in the sport are talking about it. At the ground everyone loved it, the boy was walking round the stadium later absolutely loving it. 

Sorry to correct myself she delivered not a boy as I thought. 

[bar red]

Warrington fans are in for a an entertaining year. In the studio JJB came across as a very astute and knowledgeable.

[bratman]

2 hours ago, Phil said:

I loved it, but unfortunately social media has a share of posters saying it “made the game a laughing stock” god forbid any of us get stuck next to one of these miserable so and so’s on a bus or train, I think I’d throw myself under the wheels 

A laughing stock?

[Dallas Mead]

13 minutes ago, bratman said:

A laughing stock?

Well I was there and was certainly laughing!

[Dave T]

Interesting to note in this thread, two negative comments, both from Saints fans. They do seem a bitter lot considering they've had plenty to enjoy in recent years. 

[ELBOWSEYE]

12 hours ago, Dave T said:

Interesting to note in this thread, two negative comments, both from Saints fans. They do seem a bitter lot considering they've had plenty to enjoy in recent years. 

Fair point Dave, i have spoken to hundreds of people some fans a of various clubs some not fans, only one negative opinion you right a Saints fan. You would think that in a week were former players are on national tv putting the game in bad light with their doping stories we would all be happy when a story grabs national headlines and doesn't show the game in bad way.