Wakefield Ram Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Premier League football managers all seem to be on the touchline. RL coaches now all watch from a higher vantage point. Any reason for the difference. I'm not into football, but as a game there's action across the pitch and a pass can go 30/40/50 metres up the pitch in a second or too, so you'd think they'd have as more reason to be high up as RL coaches if they want to see pattern of play Just interested in any views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cw25 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Watson is the only one that views from the touchline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Browny Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Not sure but I think it is a good thing. It means we don't see coaches shouting and remonstrating at the referees, or at least not from a position where they can get up in the ref's face. The downside is those lingering, unnecessary camera shots of the coach looking grumpy, happy or even nonplussed when the TV production should be focused on the rugby. I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copa Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Ricky Stuart often watches the Canberra Raiders from the sideline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rioman Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 It's so they can use those dinky little walkie talkie devices they always wanted for Christmas when they were kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 RU coaches sit in the stands too - I think its a perspective/vantage point thing. Do we have a "technical area"? Not that many football coaches take notice anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 They do it to get all the sponsored water bottles on camera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 in RL coaches sitting in the stands is obviously to get a greater vantage point so they can clearly see what is going on. I think it was in the 90s when this trend started to develop. I think RL being quite structured, basically 2 lines continually facing each other, and regimented lends itself well to this and you can see a lot high up that you would miss close to the pitch. Football if a lot more ad hoc with movement all over the pitch. I'm guessing being close to the pitch allows a manager to more quickly react to situations and make tactical changes and to communicate with players as needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keep The Faith Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 51 minutes ago, Cw25 said: Watson is the only one that views from the touchline. Craig Lingard watches the sideline http://tombatley.wordpress.com/ Give it a read.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcticchris Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 It would make a lot more sense from a vantage point to see the whole field for football coaches to follow the example of rugby coaches and be high up not on the touch line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz39 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 So they can see any possible weaknesses in their opponents structures and/or their own and relay messsages down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 If you were a football coach would you want to sit in the stands especially away from home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleEyePie Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 In football the fourth official is by the touchline so managers can't yell at them if they are in the stands. It's also easier for people to spot their pointless yelling and gesticulations while they are on the touchline which makes it look like they are actually doing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, EagleEyePie said: In football the fourth official is by the touchline so managers can't yell at them if they are in the stands. It's also easier for people to spot their pointless yelling and gesticulations while they are on the touchline which makes it look like they are actually doing something. Are you implying that, in Rugby League, the fourth official is in the stand ? "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Football managers and coaches bark instructions at their players practically on a play-by-play basis. Go here, run there, do this, do that. Can’t see how it could work in RL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M j M Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Didn't Brian Smith at the Boulevard climb up some sort of crows nest to get the best overall view of the pitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark S Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 9 hours ago, Tommygilf said: RU coaches sit in the stands too - I think its a perspective/vantage point thing. Do we have a "technical area"? Not that many football coaches take notice anyway. That’s so they can have a kip whilst the fat lads are rolling around the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Man of Kent said: Football managers and coaches bark instructions at their players practically on a play-by-play basis. Go here, run there, do this, do that. Can’t see how it could work in RL. Always bemuses me . They stand behind players giving instructions as they’re taking a throw in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cw25 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 John Monie wanted to be up high. He made the box his own at Central Park. So much so, They called it the Monie box. Quite witty !. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HullWire Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 hours ago, DavidM said: Always bemuses me . They stand behind players giving instructions as they’re taking a throw in It's mental that they think they have to micromanage elite players. You coach during the week, so on game day you don't have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopping Mad Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 If a rugby league coach (in the 'Gods') is in direct contact with an assistant (on the touchline), I'd say he's got the best of both worlds. What spectator in their right mind would choose to have a worm's eye view of the match? Some do. Why? Back in the Eighties, when I reported on rugby league, I remember being surprised when the then-coach at Oldham joined us in the Watersheddings press box, located on the back row of the main stand. I was sitting at the end of the row. "Is there room for me?" he asked (I was covering the away team therefore unknown to him). "I can't see anything from down there." As I recall, he was one of the early 'clipboard' coaches. Watch (association) football from anywhere near a technical area, and you soon realise managers spend 90 minutes shouting complete nonsense at their players. When they're not doing that, they're verbally abusing - i.e. intimidating - the match officials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Badrinath Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 22 hours ago, DavidM said: They do it to get all the sponsored water bottles on camera You know, I had a rant about this on opening night, it's bizarre that players have to have tape on the branding of their head gear (and other gear in the past) but there's a loooooot of advertising time for whatever brand of water or sports drink certain coaches have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL Sonja Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Wayne Bennett used to swear by watching high up behind the posts. "There has never been a Challenge Cup semifinal of 65,000 either individually or combined" - Damien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopping Mad Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 29 minutes ago, RL Sonja said: Wayne Bennett used to swear by watching high up behind the posts. I can understand why he'd do that. The pattern of play - attack and defence - is easier to follow viewed head on. Although it's much less interesting - less surprising, maybe - than the view from the side. I rarely watch from behind the posts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring back the Boyd Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Because they get a free season ticket as part of their contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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