andyacko Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 3 hours ago, AB Knight said: I’m not a coach just a fan with very limited experience of playing the game but it almost seems like we’ve headed to Whitehaven in recent years and not shown enough respect I've had three hour drive home to digest what I watched today. I still can't get my head around it. Haven are a decent side but we made them look like world beaters, particularly in the 20 minutes up to half time. Half back partnership didn't work and looked better when Brendan came on but the game was pretty much gone by then. There were mitigating circumstances - losing Ronan Michael early, the injury to Joe Porter as he was beginning to show, three ridiculously unfortunate ricochets ( let's face it, if you concede from one in a game, it's unlucky!) and some very odd interpretation of the six again rule which only seemed to apply to one team. Poor Jubby, sat at the side of me! He said that to win there, a team needs mental strength and attitude. I thought one or two players went missing at important times today. Whitehaven were the better team, thoroughly deserved their win and best of luck to them in the next round but we handed it to them on a plate. I should never expect at The Recre. Really thought we would win that today. Lots of food for thought for the coaching team for next week's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishknight Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share Posted March 14, 2022 10 hours ago, andyacko said: I've had three hour drive home to digest what I watched today. I still can't get my head around it. Haven are a decent side but we made them look like world beaters, particularly in the 20 minutes up to half time. Half back partnership didn't work and looked better when Brendan came on but the game was pretty much gone by then. There were mitigating circumstances - losing Ronan Michael early, the injury to Joe Porter as he was beginning to show, three ridiculously unfortunate ricochets ( let's face it, if you concede from one in a game, it's unlucky!) and some very odd interpretation of the six again rule which only seemed to apply to one team. Poor Jubby, sat at the side of me! He said that to win there, a team needs mental strength and attitude. I thought one or two players went missing at important times today. Whitehaven were the better team, thoroughly deserved their win and best of luck to them in the next round but we handed it to them on a plate. I should never expect at The Recre. Really thought we would win that today. Lots of food for thought for the coaching team for next week's game. Thank you Andy, a good and fair post as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Hall Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 I reckon we could be in Super League and draw Whitehaven away and they'd still turn us over. I do get the impression Fordy wanted out of the cup looking at the team selections in both matches, last year the cup run did us more harm than good as we ended up playing 4 extra games, all ifs and buts I know but had they been league wins they would have seen us comfortably in the play-offs. Marshy playing halfback then interchange hooker, while first choice hooker was sat doing radio analysis is just odd. Still should have had enough to be better than that scoreline though but well done Whitehaven, hope they get a good draw in the next round. http://www.alldesignandprint.co.uk Printing & Graphic Design with Nationwide Service Programmes | Leaflets | Cards | Banners & Flags | Letterheads | Tickets | Magazines | Folders | Brand Identity plus much more Official Matchday Programme Print & Design Partner to York City Knights, Heworth ARLFC, York Acorn RLFC & Hunslet RLFC Official Player Sponsor of Marcus Stock for the 2020 Season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter G. Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 47 minutes ago, Simon Hall said: I reckon we could be in Super League and draw Whitehaven away and they'd still turn us over. I do get the impression Fordy wanted out of the cup looking at the team selections in both matches, last year the cup run did us more harm than good as we ended up playing 4 extra games, all ifs and buts I know but had they been league wins they would have seen us comfortably in the play-offs. Marshy playing halfback then interchange hooker, while first choice hooker was sat doing radio analysis is just odd. Still should have had enough to be better than that scoreline though but well done Whitehaven, hope they get a good draw in the next round. Don't think you're far off with that impression Simon. Yesterday reminded me of a match at the Crescent a few years back, 1895 cup v Batley. It was obvious then that Fordy didn't take it 100% seriously cos he rested a few players and Batley turned us over and progressed to the semis. Very different to last year when a full strength side was selected for each round and the 1895 was taken very seriously. Even if these impressions are only partially correct they dont help the loyal Knights fans who travelled up yesterday expecting a closely fought cup match. I dont wish to comment further on the Matty to halfback scenarios, I've made my thoughts clear before on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarence Street Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Simon Hall said: I reckon we could be in Super League and draw Whitehaven away and they'd still turn us over. I do get the impression Fordy wanted out of the cup looking at the team selections in both matches, last year the cup run did us more harm than good as we ended up playing 4 extra games, all ifs and buts I know but had they been league wins they would have seen us comfortably in the play-offs. Marshy playing halfback then interchange hooker, while first choice hooker was sat doing radio analysis is just odd. Still should have had enough to be better than that scoreline though but well done Whitehaven, hope they get a good draw in the next round. I agree with all that S.H. apart from Fordy wanting out of the Cup. I think he thought the team he picked was good enough to win the game. Now he knows it wasn't. As you say, we still should have had enough to be better than that score line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishknight Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share Posted March 14, 2022 17 minutes ago, Clarence Street said: I agree with all that S.H. apart from Fordy wanting out of the Cup. I think he thought the team he picked was good enough to win the game. Now he knows it wasn't. As you say, we still should have had enough to be better than that score line. Once I saw that team I said we're going to get beat why have BOH on the bench, Marsh at halfback and Harrison at F.B. why not have Harrison on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryHall Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Its my fault, I am a jinx. The first time I ever went to Whitehaven was in 1981 we had just won the league and we got turned over. I have been to Whitehaven for every game since except one. The only time we beaten Whitehaven at the Recreation Ground in 40 years !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishknight Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 hour ago, GaryHall said: Its my fault, I am a jinx. The first time I ever went to Whitehaven was in 1981 we had just won the league and we got turned over. I have been to Whitehaven for every game since except one. The only time we beaten Whitehaven at the Recreation Ground in 40 years !! I hope they ban you for life lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marrafan Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 hour ago, GaryHall said: Its my fault, I am a jinx. The first time I ever went to Whitehaven was in 1981 we had just won the league and we got turned over. I have been to Whitehaven for every game since except one. The only time we beaten Whitehaven at the Recreation Ground in 40 years !! Look forward to seeing you in June Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puk Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 23 hours ago, Fax Knight said: I know 'Haven away is a tough fixture, but losing by this margin to a team that so far have only beaten (with the greatest respect to them) Dewsbury and the Broncos is a poor show. So now we've missed out on potentially financially lucrative cup games. I think we really over performed in our first year in the Championship. A lot of games were won by a few points and, as I've stated before, we have never replaced Cockayne and Horne who between them were often the difference. The following covid-ravaged season saw us lose all our opening games and last season saw far more poor performances than good. We are slowly consolidating as a mid-tier Championship side. Which considering where we were a few short years ago isn't bad. Not quite sure how we become a top Championship team without a cash injection. Money talks in any pro-sport. On a separate note, our new Chairman seems to have gone quiet? Thought the knights tried last season with cuthbertson to bring the experience of Horne,but was a complete waste of time and money,still think we have 3 good half backs and 2 great fullbacks at the club,but you are right if we want to become a team that challenges at the top of the championship we need to grow our fan base to the likes of Bradford,Leigh and now Featherstone to be able to compete,don't think you can have a go at our chairman has only just arrived at the club and maybe doing a lot of things behind the scenes,could get Sharon or Andy to do a interview him and ask how things are going in the first few weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puk Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 20 hours ago, andyacko said: I've had three hour drive home to digest what I watched today. I still can't get my head around it. Haven are a decent side but we made them look like world beaters, particularly in the 20 minutes up to half time. Half back partnership didn't work and looked better when Brendan came on but the game was pretty much gone by then. There were mitigating circumstances - losing Ronan Michael early, the injury to Joe Porter as he was beginning to show, three ridiculously unfortunate ricochets ( let's face it, if you concede from one in a game, it's unlucky!) and some very odd interpretation of the six again rule which only seemed to apply to one team. Poor Jubby, sat at the side of me! He said that to win there, a team needs mental strength and attitude. I thought one or two players went missing at important times today. Whitehaven were the better team, thoroughly deserved their win and best of luck to them in the next round but we handed it to them on a plate. I should never expect at The Recre. Really thought we would win that today. Lots of food for thought for the coaching team for next week's game. Andy why did we go with one hooker into the game did Jubby get injured in the warm up or just not selected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeb1 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 31 minutes ago, Puk said: Thought the knights tried last season with cuthbertson to bring the experience of Horne,but was a complete waste of time and money,still think we have 3 good half backs and 2 great fullbacks at the club,but you are right if we want to become a team that challenges at the top of the championship we need to grow our fan base to the likes of Bradford,Leigh and now Featherstone to be able to compete,don't think you can have a go at our chairman has only just arrived at the club and maybe doing a lot of things behind the scenes,could get Sharon or Andy to do a interview him and ask how things are going in the first few weeks? How come cuthbertson can perform week in week out for fev , something doesn't add up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acasterknight Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Whitehaven have drawn Saints at home, excellent reward for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyacko Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Puk said: Andy why did we go with one hooker into the game did Jubby get injured in the warm up or just not selected? Jubby was named on the team sheet but I was told it would be either Jubby or Brendan and it was Brendan who played. To the best of my knowledge Jubby was rested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter G. Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 4 hours ago, GaryHall said: Its my fault, I am a jinx. The first time I ever went to Whitehaven was in 1981 we had just won the league and we got turned over. I have been to Whitehaven for every game since except one. The only time we beaten Whitehaven at the Recreation Ground in 40 years !! Just think of the money you could make Gary if you put a Saints shirt on and turn up at the Rece for the cup match. The Haven fans would reward you for turning up as rent a Jonah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyacko Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 What we'd have given yesterday for a bit of what Scotty's producing tonight for the Bulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter G. Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 25 minutes ago, andyacko said: What we'd have given yesterday for a bit of what Scotty's producing tonight for the Bulls. Spot on Andy. Compared to Scotty's efforts tonight we were as soft as the brown stuff yesterday. Some of our players need to up their game or be dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nige Arro Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Double p back Sunday, he'll sort everything out!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearenough Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 from the moment the draw for this fixture was made all the talk from the management was about resting players, not about winning the match. negativity breeds defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyacko Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Jim Bowen - 'And look what you could have got'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishknight Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, andyacko said: Jim Bowen - 'And look what you could have got'! It would have been good to see Joe Batch again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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