NRL a league of its own

[Anita Bath]

40 minutes ago, Davo5 said:

I just think it’s too gimmicky to be honest,it should be 1 point no matter where it’s kicked from.

Yes I was but Joe’s drop goal in claggy conditions & probably with the old mitre ball was some feat especially given that teams weren’t kept 10 yards apart in those days.

Gimmicky yes, but it should be two points, wherever its from. You get two points for kicking a conversion from in front of the posts (unless your name is Don Fox) but only 1 point for kicking a drop goal from 30 yards out and an acute angle.

[Davo5]

1 hour ago, Anita Bath said:

Gimmicky yes, but it should be two points, wherever its from. You get two points for kicking a conversion from in front of the posts (unless your name is Don Fox) but only 1 point for kicking a drop goal from 30 yards out and an acute angle.

No it really shouldn’t.

[The Rocket]

9 hours ago, fighting irish said:

I just watched the round one round up and i was blown away by it.

Put this up for you mate because it has Ch 9`s 7 minute highlights, shows a bit more than you get on Fox or the NRL 4 minute highlights package.

After Souths third try ( 78th minute) you`ll see the highlights go directly to a line drop out from Souths, that occurred, in case you were wondering, because - just to add to the drama - Souths let the ball go dead from the kick-off, Souths goal line drop-out only travelled about 5 metres and every one thought game over, but it took that wicked left hand bounce and Cam Murray was waiting, they marched down field and you know the rest. 

NRL 2022: Latrell Mitchell magic not enough as Melbourne Storm beat South Sydney Rabbitohs (smh.com.au)

 

 

[RL Sonja]

Pretty fair old game to watch. Ending nothing short of astonishing. 

[fighting irish]

7 hours ago, The Rocket said:

Put this up for you mate because it has Ch 9`s 7 minute highlights, shows a bit more than you get on Fox or the NRL 4 minute highlights package.

After Souths third try ( 78th minute) you`ll see the highlights go directly to a line drop out from Souths, that occurred, in case you were wondering, because - just to add to the drama - Souths let the ball go dead from the kick-off, Souths goal line drop-out only travelled about 5 metres and every one thought game over, but it took that wicked left hand bounce and Cam Murray was waiting, they marched down field and you know the rest. 

NRL 2022: Latrell Mitchell magic not enough as Melbourne Storm beat South Sydney Rabbitohs (smh.com.au)

 

 

Great spectacle. Really gives me a boost to see the game played so well. 

 

[The Rocket]

Put this up not as a point scoring opportunity rather to show what a bumper year the NRL are having.

I think round 9 came in over 5 million as well.

 

633k year average for the NRL up to the end of round 8.
588k year average for the AFL.
 

NRL	NRL 2022	NRL 2021	NRL 2019
NRL R1	5.332m	5.117m	4.045m
NRL R2	4.587	4.633	3.8
NRL R3	5.052	4.52	3.721
NRL R4	4.967	4.57	3.783
NRL R5	4.773	4.908	3.671
NRL R6	4.94	4.577	4.119
NRL R7	5.682	4.766	4.344
NRl R8	5.233	4.548	3.693
Total	40566000	33091000	27483000
Average	633,844	517,047	429,422
Hours	67,339,560	54,931,060	45,621,780
% inc/dec 2021	22.59%
% inc/dec 2019	47.60%

[JF1]

2 hours ago, The Rocket said:

Put this up not as a point scoring opportunity rather to show what a bumper year the NRL are having.

I think round 9 came in over 5 million as well.

 

633k year average for the NRL up to the end of round 8.
588k year average for the AFL.
 

NRL	NRL 2022	NRL 2021	NRL 2019
NRL R1	5.332m	5.117m	4.045m
NRL R2	4.587	4.633	3.8
NRL R3	5.052	4.52	3.721
NRL R4	4.967	4.57	3.783
NRL R5	4.773	4.908	3.671
NRL R6	4.94	4.577	4.119
NRL R7	5.682	4.766	4.344
NRl R8	5.233	4.548	3.693
Total	40566000	33091000	27483000
Average	633,844	517,047	429,422
Hours	67,339,560	54,931,060	45,621,780
% inc/dec 2021	22.59%
% inc/dec 2019	47.60%

Please excuse my ignorance.

What exactly do these figures represent?

[RL Sonja]

Problems for the AFL. 

[Dunbar]

11 minutes ago, JF1 said:

Please excuse my ignorance.

What exactly do these figures represent?

Cumulative weekly and season to date tv viewing figures I believe. 

[The Rocket]

13 minutes ago, JF1 said:

Please excuse my ignorance.

What exactly do these figures represent?

That would be viewers,  however it is worth noting that for each game whilst you would have supporters of both teams and then third parties who just watch out of interest, certainly some of these may watch more than one game throughout the weekend.

So despite there being 5 233 000 viewers for round 8, there may be individuals in there who watch more than one game and therefore are counted more than once.

Despite this, it is the headline figure that all codes battle for bragging rights over throughout the year despite this being only one aspect in determining advertising rates and attractiveness for sponsorships.

 

[Dunbar]

1 minute ago, The Rocket said:

That would be viewers,  however it is worth noting that for each game whilst you would have supporters of both teams and then third parties who just watch out of interest, certainly some of these may watch more than one game throughout the weekend.

So despite there being 5 233 000 viewers for round 8, there may be individuals in there who watch more than one game and therefore are counted more than once.

Despite this, it is the headline figure that all codes battle for bragging rights over throughout the year despite this being only one aspect in determining advertising rates and attractiveness for sponsorships.

 

As long as the counting is done consistently across rounds and seasons then that is fine.

It seems like very good numbers so far.

[Dunbar]

Is Origin being highly anticipated this year... potentially getting back to the top of the annual viewing figures?

[Damien]

3 hours ago, The Rocket said:

Put this up not as a point scoring opportunity rather to show what a bumper year the NRL are having.

I think round 9 came in over 5 million as well.

 

633k year average for the NRL up to the end of round 8.
588k year average for the AFL.
 

NRL	NRL 2022	NRL 2021	NRL 2019
NRL R1	5.332m	5.117m	4.045m
NRL R2	4.587	4.633	3.8
NRL R3	5.052	4.52	3.721
NRL R4	4.967	4.57	3.783
NRL R5	4.773	4.908	3.671
NRL R6	4.94	4.577	4.119
NRL R7	5.682	4.766	4.344
NRl R8	5.233	4.548	3.693
Total	40566000	33091000	27483000
Average	633,844	517,047	429,422
Hours	67,339,560	54,931,060	45,621,780
% inc/dec 2021	22.59%
% inc/dec 2019	47.60%

That's some increase year on year, great stuff. What is the additional coverage each year i.e the increase in hours? How much of the increase is down to this? Either way its all good for selling the game.

[gingerjon]

3 hours ago, The Rocket said:

Put this up not as a point scoring opportunity rather to show what a bumper year the NRL are having.

I think round 9 came in over 5 million as well.

 

633k year average for the NRL up to the end of round 8.
588k year average for the AFL.
 

NRL	NRL 2022	NRL 2021	NRL 2019
NRL R1	5.332m	5.117m	4.045m
NRL R2	4.587	4.633	3.8
NRL R3	5.052	4.52	3.721
NRL R4	4.967	4.57	3.783
NRL R5	4.773	4.908	3.671
NRL R6	4.94	4.577	4.119
NRL R7	5.682	4.766	4.344
NRl R8	5.233	4.548	3.693
Total	40566000	33091000	27483000
Average	633,844	517,047	429,422
Hours	67,339,560	54,931,060	45,621,780
% inc/dec 2021	22.59%
% inc/dec 2019	47.60%

I like that the drop from the opening round excitement is barely noticeable this year when set against a pretty steep drop in previous ones. Shows people are coming back for the weekly stuff.

[The Rocket]

17 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

As long as the counting is done consistently across rounds and seasons then that is fine.

It seems like very good numbers so far.

Excellent figures and all the better considering one of our teams majority fan base is located overseas. Interestingly for the first time this week I saw some figures out of NZ. Despite being data from 2018 ( the only information available ) they are indicative of probably what they are now - despite the Warriors being woeful at times.

In 2018 the Warriors averaged ~130 000 per game and games featuring other teams ~25 000 mark, you add that up over the course of the year I think it comes in around 7 500 000 views, that`s a lot when you consider that is only their NZ fan base and in total that year I think we came in around 111 000 000 regular season views.

16 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

Is Origin being highly anticipated this year... potentially getting back to the top of the annual viewing figures?

Read something interesting recently about the slipping of Origin numbers over recent years. One theory said the slippage had occurred in conjunction with the retirement of Queensland`s golden age and the associated superstars. Kind of made sense I thought. There is an added element now too with Fittler and Slate going head to head. I`m hoping with Billy Slater in charge and the rise of Ponga/ Grant/Munster/Walker/ Cobbo etc we may start to see numbers rebuild as people, especially Queenslanders, tune again in to see these superstars.

Edited May 9, 2022 by The Rocket

[The Rocket]

15 minutes ago, Damien said:

That's some increase year on year, great stuff. What is the additional coverage each year i.e the increase in hours? How much of the increase is down to this? Either way its all good for selling the game.

I think the increase in hours is purely reflective of the fact people are watching more games. The hours watched is one of the strengths of our main competitor because their games go for considerably longer, more opportunity for adverts and sponsors to be seen. But from the figures I saw we are closing that gap as well, and all that with one less game per week.

[Damien]

4 minutes ago, The Rocket said:

I think the increase in hours is purely reflective of the fact people are watching more games. The hours watched is one of the strengths of our main competitor because their games go for considerably longer, more opportunity for adverts and sponsors to be seen. But from the figures I saw we are closing that gap as well, and all that with one less game per week.

Oh got you. That makes complete sense now, cheers.

[The Rocket]

15 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

I like that the drop from the opening round excitement is barely noticeable this year when set against a pretty steep drop in previous ones. Shows people are coming back for the weekly stuff.

I think that we`ve had a few pretty major upsets which has really lead to that rebound. 

There used to be a time in the NRL when upsets were pretty common, in fact the League was known for it. Unfortunately we seem to have got away from that the last few years, last weekend whilst we had pretty major boil overs in the first two games the rest unfortunately were pretty ordinary and even predictable. If that keeps I fear the numbers might drop. Nothing like not knowing the result to keep people tuning in.

[Pulga]

I'm not sure it is what people are assuming it is. This year has streaming numbers included whereas streaming numbers in previous years are MUCH more vague.

[The Rocket]

24 minutes ago, Pulga said:

I'm not sure it is what people are assuming it is. This year has streaming numbers included whereas streaming numbers in previous years are MUCH more vague.

That`s an interesting one. Certainly the numbers around streaming were vague in the past especially since Fox League had no need to reveal them because they were advert free and there was no advantage in revealing them.

Having said that I think that even three years ago the amount of people streaming was negligible compared to today. This is backed up by Foxtel having continually updated its` ratio of streaming to STB from around .43 to .89 over the last six months. In fact the recent Warriors v. Storm game had streaming actually out-rated STB 298 000 to 279 000. A sign of the times perhaps.

But probably the best explanation I`ve heard is that the explosion of people subscribing to Foxtel`s NRL ( amongst other sports ) streaming service Kayo, up to 1.51m subscribers recently, means that many people who were previously only viewing a one, a couple or all of the three C9`s FTA games are now watching a lot more NRL having access now to all 8 matches through Kayo. Which at $25 per month is a fraction of Fox League STB.

 

[The Future is League]

5 hours ago, The Rocket said:

Put this up not as a point scoring opportunity rather to show what a bumper year the NRL are having.

I think round 9 came in over 5 million as well.

 

633k year average for the NRL up to the end of round 8.
588k year average for the AFL.
 

NRL	NRL 2022	NRL 2021	NRL 2019
NRL R1	5.332m	5.117m	4.045m
NRL R2	4.587	4.633	3.8
NRL R3	5.052	4.52	3.721
NRL R4	4.967	4.57	3.783
NRL R5	4.773	4.908	3.671
NRL R6	4.94	4.577	4.119
NRL R7	5.682	4.766	4.344
NRl R8	5.233	4.548	3.693
Total	40566000	33091000	27483000
Average	633,844	517,047	429,422
Hours	67,339,560	54,931,060	45,621,780
% inc/dec 2021	22.59%
% inc/dec 2019	47.60%

Vicky Kicky house isn't going to like this 

[The Future is League]

2 hours ago, RL Sonja said:

Problems for the AFL. 

 

[ghost crayfish]

19 hours ago, The Rocket said:

That`s an interesting one. Certainly the numbers around streaming were vague in the past especially since Fox League had no need to reveal them because they were advert free and there was no advantage in revealing them.

Having said that I think that even three years ago the amount of people streaming was negligible compared to today. This is backed up by Foxtel having continually updated its` ratio of streaming to STB from around .43 to .89 over the last six months. In fact the recent Warriors v. Storm game had streaming actually out-rated STB 298 000 to 279 000. A sign of the times perhaps.

But probably the best explanation I`ve heard is that the explosion of people subscribing to Foxtel`s NRL ( amongst other sports ) streaming service Kayo, up to 1.51m subscribers recently, means that many people who were previously only viewing a one, a couple or all of the three C9`s FTA games are now watching a lot more NRL having access now to all 8 matches through Kayo. Which at $25 per month is a fraction of Fox League STB.

 

Spot on. The single biggest factor is kayo. Along with being more affordable and portable, it's the times we live in. Having multiple apps on your phone that stream content for a subscription fee is totally normal now. Weekends are full of footy, no games overlap. It's almost impossible not to watch any!

Edited May 10, 2022 by ghost crayfish

[Copa]

I know it’s only a small sample size but when my friends started with the affordable Kayo app they watched a lot more games than they ever did with just ch9.

Kayo has revolutionised watching the NRL in Australia. We no longer require an expensive Foxtel subscription and kayo still has all the extra magazine style NRL shows most days.

I wonder if all the rugby league analysis shows on kayo also increases the RL smarts of the audience which then contributes to some viewers watching more matches?

Edited May 10, 2022 by Copa

[The Great Dane]

5 hours ago, Copa said:

I wonder if all the rugby league analysis shows on kayo also increases the RL smarts of the audience which then contributes to some viewers watching more matches?

If anything you lose braincells from watching New's analysis lol.